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[woodchuck]

some people may not like the ending, but i loved it.


that entire scene with harvey/gordon/batman was really intense. by that point, you know anything can happen. it's not like spiderman or anything where you pretty much know the outcome.

and i'm glad that Dent died. i loved the character and performance, and that was the best way to resolve it. "the rise and fall of harvey dent"

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

The more I've thought about the sequel the more i think Bane could work. He's one of the more "grounded" villians that could work in Nollan's Batman universe. They could even reworkd the venom to not be the direct feed setup of the comics

You have Batman at this point not only hunted, but also now more obsessed in the mission than ever. Never forgiving himself for what happened to Rachel & Harvey he's pushing himself more than ever.

Then enter Bane who is obsessed with Batman, figures out who he is and then attempts to break him. The first thing, be busts everyone out of the prisons and chaos ensues throughout the city. At this point you could use a lot of the more colorful batman villians as action moments and little "origin" of them is needed (since this is the end of the trilogy). People like Killer Croc, Scarecrow, Poison Ivy, etc

Batman goes on the 72 hour no sleep only fight marathon, and at the end at the peak of exhaustion gets the shit kicked out of him (but not paralyzed). Then he over the rest of the film he regroups, recovers comes back and saves the city finally knowing his limits and when to scale back but also redeeming himself in the public's eye

 

[Kagari]

I hated two face, very fucking annoying character, yeah we know your spouse got killed, move on fuck. I hated him throught the entire movie.

I have to admit though, his face ended up being more graphic than I expected.

 

[Bursh]

WOW at the movie. The ferry situation was incredible. Deebo tossing the detonator out the window was actually one of the only things that didn't elicit laughs from my audience. I was so happy they didn't because it made the scene more meaningful, touching even.

I did think the cell phone thing was kind of hokey but it was a convention I was more than willing to look past. With all of the quality film-making that preceded it I'll let my suspicions slide. I felt that Maggie as Rachel was fine and that she did the best for what not-so-great lines she was written. Eckhart was outstanding. Seriously, he plays similar characters in most of the movies he's in and I do not get sick of it. If his career is relegated to slick-handsome-fast talkers then I'll take it because he managed to find so much depth in his tragic character.

Ledger, of course, was phenomenal. He'll get the nomination. Along with sound and editing I think these are the only nominations this movie will have a chance at attaining. Summer blockbusters, even of this high-caliber, are never well represented at the Oscars except for sound and visual effects categories.

Bale's gravelly voice did its job. It didn't get to me the way it seems to annoy other people. i can understand but its something I can easily look past.

I'm so happy that Nolan has proven that a huge summer movie can have intelligence, fine performances, great writing, and amazing directing. Hopefully the summer is no longer relegated to mindless shit anymore. Nolan and Co. rawk. Hard.

side note: It might just be me, but seeing Dent in the hospital the first time reminded me of Big Boss.

 

[ToyMachine228]

I hated two face, very fucking annoying character, yeah we know your spouse got killed, move on fuck. I hated him throught the entire movie.

I think this interpretation of Two Face is much better than any done before. This should be the defining version of Two Face. He's become a lot more now than a gangster with a messed up face, and a tommy gun.

I loved the movie, my only concern is where are they going to take the series now. I personally thought that leaving Joker's ending open like that called for him to return in the finale of the trilogy and be the main villain (He is after all, the epitome of Batman villains) but now that Heath is dead, and Two-Face is dead in the film world, I'm concerned as to where they are going to go.

Plot wise though, I was really surprised when Rachelle Dawes died and I thought it was a really good twist. I thought Batman was going to save Rachelle and then through the phone he'd hear Batman saving her, and he would think he was going to die, but instead he lives and becomes Two-Face and loses his mind, with his last sane thoughts being of saving Rachelle not him, and saw Batman condemned him to become Two-Face. But when what actually happened, happened I was surprised and didn't mind the twist at all.

Also, now knowing that they probably won't use Joker in the next film, I wish they had a different ending for Joker other than just leaving him upside down. I was hoping that Joker would "break" Batman mentally and eventually Batman would kill Joker. But that didn't happen. And I think I only really think that because now that Heath is dead, Joker can't really return for the next movie. Otherwise I wouldn't have wanted him dead.

Ah, so much to talk about and speculate about! Great movie, definitely want to see it in theatres again.

 

[woodchuck]

although the sonar thing was really out there, at least they did set it up throughout the movie.

- hong kong scene
- Wayne ordering R&D on a "government telecommunications project"

 

[Ifrit]

Watched it on IMAX (my first time on an IMAX theater) last night and I ABSOLUTELY FUCKING LOVED IT, best superhero movie I've ever seen, everyone was great in it, especially Eckhart (loved how twoface looked) and Ledger, speaking of which, he was just incredible as the Joker, I think he's probably the best villian I've ever seen in a movie (not just a superhero movie), my only gripe was probably bale's batman voice, still loved every second of the movie.

and :lol @ the pencil trick, best introduction ever

 

[Darko]

although the sonar thing was really out there, at least they did set it up throughout the movie.

- hong kong scene
- Wayne ordering R&D on a "government telecommunications project"

and it made great for a lucius's last sequence

ps. I call dibs on pencil trick avatar

 

[scitek]

I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but as far as Two Face's fate, I think he absolutely had to die. These Batman movies fit into a real world, and those wounds Two Face suffered had to be fatal. Even if he'd survived the fall, half of his face had burned off and he had exposed parts of his skull. He was dead. If he survived and came back as a villain for the next movie or ever again, it would have this air of something impossible in a series of movies otherwise based pretty firmly in a reality not entirely unlike our own.

Yeah, you might get the same type of result as Venom in Spider-Man 3. Whereas every other villain in the series, and even Spidey himself, were created as a result of science, this random alien lifeform crawling onto his bike from a space rock that landed in the park just didn't fit.

 

[bishopcruz]

Loved it, but in my world harvey isn't dead, he's just hidden, getting psychiatric care. That's the only thing I DIDN'T like, the death of Two-Face.

 

[Iceman]

a complaint about the sonar? BAT sonar?

1) it works with the character (a BATman) AND
2) the nature of the character (he IS an outlaw) AND
3) is a politically charged choice (encroachment on people's liberties)

btw, the parallelism used in the movie was outstanding.. I HAVE to watch it again just to try to catch them all: i'm sure I missed some.

 

[Keylime]

Just got back from my second viewing...holy fucking christ it still packs just as much punch as it did the first time round.

Movie of the millennium.

 

[AnthonyP]

Just got back from my second viewing...holy fucking christ it still packs just as much punch as it did the first time round.

Movie of the millennium.

I'm estimating 5 theatrical viewings for myself over its run. It's deserving.

 

[Keylime]

I'm estimating 5 theatrical viewings for myself over its run. It's deserving.

I've got tickets in hand for a Sunday morning show on IMAX, making it numero 3 for IMAX viewings.

So fucking worth it.

 

[esbern]

aboslutely loved it

batman running away at the end was fucking retarded though. it so weird to see him actually have to physically escape a scene as oppose to just disappearing

 

[msdstc]

WOW at the movie. The ferry situation was incredible. Deebo tossing the detonator out the window was actually one of the only things that didn't elicit laughs from my audience. I was so happy they didn't because it made the scene more meaningful, touching even.

I did think the cell phone thing was kind of hokey but it was a convention I was more than willing to look past. With all of the quality film-making that preceded it I'll let my suspicions slide. I felt that Maggie as Rachel was fine and that she did the best for what not-so-great lines she was written. Eckhart was outstanding. Seriously, he plays similar characters in most of the movies he's in and I do not get sick of it. If his career is relegated to slick-handsome-fast talkers then I'll take it because he managed to find so much depth in his tragic character.

Ledger, of course, was phenomenal. He'll get the nomination. Along with sound and editing I think these are the only nominations this movie will have a chance at attaining. Summer blockbusters, even of this high-caliber, are never well represented at the Oscars except for sound and visual effects categories.

Bale's gravelly voice did its job. It didn't get to me the way it seems to annoy other people. i can understand but its something I can easily look past.

I'm so happy that Nolan has proven that a huge summer movie can have intelligence, fine performances, great writing, and amazing directing. Hopefully the summer is no longer relegated to mindless shit anymore. Nolan and Co. rawk. Hard.

side note: It might just be me, but seeing Dent in the hospital the first time reminded me of Big Boss.

Wait editing? Not a chance, that's the part of the movie that made me cringe. It happened in both of them. There were a few times I was taken out of the movie... it almost felt as if it was incomplete just at a handful of parts.

 

[DMczaf]

aboslutely loved it

batman running away at the end was fucking retarded though. it so weird to see him actually have to physically escape a scene as oppose to just disappearing

Because he was shot, and also fell off a building. Sometimes these things kinda slow you down :lol

 

[Bowser]

Because he was shot, and also fell off a building. Sometimes these things kinda slow you down :lol

:lol

 

[Darko]

I'm estimating 5 theatrical viewings for myself over its run. It's deserving.

seeing it again this weekend saturday/sunday , will probly see it next weekend as well when I go for step brothers

Because he was shot, and also fell off a building. Sometimes these things kinda slow you down :lol

:lol seriously ppl.. pay attention.

 

[KeeSomething]

The Dark Knight is simply the greatest movie I've ever seen.

 

[ezekial45]

Now that i think about it, the only bits that really bugged me were the little things:

1. The pedestrians ignoring the school bus driving out of the bank.
2. Bale's Batman voice towards the end.

Beyond those, i have no complaints.

 

[Keylime]

Now that i think about it, the only bits that really bugged me were the little things:

1. The pedestrians ignoring the school bus driving out of the bank.
2. Bale's Batman voice towards the end.

Beyond those, i have no complaints.

There is one line that gets the "super cheesy vibe" from me both times I saw it.

Batman: "The city is full of people...that just showed you they can stand for good"

Or some shit like that when the Joker is upside down and the ferries didn't blow each other up. Just a little too heavy on the good vs. evil dialogue.

That's it though. Fuck awesome for everything else.

 

[ahoyhoy]

I wanted to reach onto the screen and wipe off the tons of mascara the Mayor/Lost Other was wearing.

Other than that, fucking fan-tastic film. Seriously now, why did Ledger have to finally show some seriously awesome performance abilities after his death?

 

[Bursh]

Wait editing? Not a chance, that's the part of the movie that made me cringe. It happened in both of them. There were a few times I was taken out of the movie... it almost felt as if it was incomplete just at a handful of parts.

Well I thought that for a movie of its length there were no superfluous scenes and that it certainly did not feel as long as it was. After the movie was over I felt that it had gone by quickly and thinking about all that had happened I was amazed at how much they put into the movie.

Also: they nominated Into The Wild for editing. While I really enjoyed that movie I can tell you that it was one of the worse editing jobs last year. Overlong and not cut properly.

Other than that, fucking fan-tastic film. Seriously now, why did Ledger have to finally show some seriously awesome performance abilities after his death?

I'm Not There, Brokeback Mountain, Monster's Ball...he was great for a while man

 

[LM4sure]

Posted this in the rottenwatch thread, but probably should post here since it contains spoilers.


Saw it last night at 10:45. Still don't know how the theater got away with showing it before midnight since every other theater I checked had 12:01 showings. Oh well, I guess I won!

Anyway, the movie was pretty good. A couple of editing problems, but I think that might have been because of the dead dude. For instance, the scene when the Joker throws that cunt out the window at the party and Batman jumps out after her, they crash into a car and then the next scene takes place the next day. What the hell happened to the Joker? He just gave up looking for Harvey and left? Why didn't they show that? LAME!

I also felt that Two Face didn't get enough screen time. Probably should have saved him for the sequel. I think they were shooting for a sequel with the Joker, seeing as how he didn't die, but that's not going to happen now!

One Final comment. I am SICK of hearing on the internet, tv, etc. how Ledger was UNBELIEVABLE and will win an Oscar. Don't get me wrong. He was good, but not nearly as good as the tools in the media have made him out to be. If he was still alive, no one would say shit.

 

[Keylime]

Posted this in the rottenwatch thread, but probably should post here since it contains spoilers.


Saw it last night at 10:45. Still don't know how the theater got away with showing it before midnight since every other theater I checked had 12:01 showings. Oh well, I guess I won!

Anyway, the movie was pretty good. A couple of editing problems, but I think that might have been because of the dead dude. For instance, the scene when the Joker throws that cunt out the window at the party and Batman jumps out after her, they crash into a car and then the next scene takes place the next day. What the hell happened to the Joker? He just gave up looking for Harvey and left? Why didn't they show that? LAME!

I also felt that Two Face didn't get enough screen time. Probably should have saved him for the sequel. I think they were shooting for a sequel with the Joker, seeing as how he didn't die, but that's not going to happen now!

One Final comment. I am SICK of hearing on the internet, tv, etc. how Ledger was UNBELIEVABLE and will win an Oscar. Don't get me wrong. He was good, but not nearly as good as the tools in the media have made him out to be. If he was still alive, no one would say shit.

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[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Now that you all have seen the movie, was the hospital scene the greatest thing in the history of cinematography or what!

Joker exiting the hospital with the hospital blowing up behind him, skipping like a girl wearing the nurse suit, fucking awesome!

 

[mollipen]

the only minor quibble I have with the movie is that the explosions at midnight "conveniently" didn't work.

Not sure if this was covered yet, but I don't want to forget about it: there was nothing convenient about the situation. Joker expected one of the two groups to kill the other, so he never really set a timer.

 

[rollingstart]

This is seriously my favorite movie ever. I loved every bit of it. The entire Joker trying to get Harvey in the SWAT truck was so awesome. The Batpod is so cool.

I thought how they managed to get down so many various themes from Batman lore in there without making it feel overbearing was just so well done. A lot of things from Dark Knight Returns are in there as well. Other people rising up as almost the 'Sons of Batman' and fighting crime in their own way, one that Batman doesn't approve of. The barrier of how much power and control should you have over these people. It was all just brilliant in its execution.

The entire cast was amazing. Despite Rachael being better in this movie, they still killed her off. I was actually shocked when that happened. Harvey and his turning into Two-Face was also really well done. I think it was a good idea not to drag him into a third movie since his motivation wasn't strong enough to become a big enough criminal as he was in other Batman lore. They had him going after the people responsible for Rachael's death, but in this he did go a bit overboard. The Joker was amazing. The hospital scene when he walks out in the nurse outfit was hilarious. Bale was awesome as usual. Bruce Wayne as a character was done far better in this than in the first movie. As Batman he was perfect. I wish there was a bit more of Lucius and Alfred, but they still had choice parts. Fox making a fool out of the guy trying to expose Batman was awesome.

A lot of parts in the movie actually reminded me of Die Hard 3, but more awesome. The Joker's plans throughout were both brilliant and insane. At first I thought the prologue was him acting crazy, but that was nothing compared to the later stunts.

I want to want this again right now. I can't wait for the blu-ray release.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

"Now that you all have seen the movie, was the hospital scene the greatest thing in the history of cinematography or what!

Joker exiting the hospital with the hospital blowing up behind him, skipping like a girl wearing the nurse suit, fucking awesome! "


My favorite part is probably when he starts messing with the detonator because the last explosion didn't go off and then when it does it makes him jump like "O SHIT!". :lol So awesome.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Not sure if this was covered yet, but I don't want to forget about it: there was nothing convenient about the situation. Joker expected one of the two groups to kill the other, so he never really set a timer.

Yep. he wanted them to kill each other off and just watch the fireworks himself. :lol

 

[Keylime]

Not sure if this was covered yet, but I don't want to forget about it: there was nothing convenient about the situation. Joker expected one of the two groups to kill the other, so he never really set a timer.

I think that's what he means. He thinks that someone in the boats would have snapped and turned the key.

They "convieniantly" didn't, allowing Batman to give Joker the "Lawl Gotham isn't as crazy as you n00b!"

Didn't care about that, regardless of how unlikely.

 

[Darko]

Now that you all have seen the movie, was the hospital scene the greatest thing in the history of cinematography or what!

Joker exiting the hospital with the hospital blowing up behind him, skipping like a girl wearing the nurse suit, fucking awesome!

when i saw that in the theater i was like "fuck that looks real", then I looked it up they blew up a real fucking building for that shit :lol

 

[Shig]

Not sure if this was covered yet, but I don't want to forget about it: there was nothing convenient about the situation. Joker expected one of the two groups to kill the other, so he never really set a timer.

Yeah, but after he realized neither were going to blow, he said "If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself," pulled out his own detonator, and pushed a button... I didn't really understand what that achieved. It's not like he was interrupted by Batman right before he pushed the button, either, he clearly pushed something that caused a green light on the detonator to light up.

 

[Keylime]

Yeah, but after he realized neither were going to blow, he said "If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself," pulled out his own detonator, and pushed a button... I didn't really understand what that achieved.

He never had a chance to press the detonator.

He was about to tell Batman another story about his scars and probably pop the boats when he got to the "WHY SO SERIOUS" or something like that.

Regardless, he never pressed the trigger.

 

[Shig]

He pushed something that made a light on it activate, very clearly. Was it perhaps a two button press activation sequence?

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

The image of two Face holding the gun to the kid's head is burned in my mind. My god, HE BECAME SO INCREDIBLY EVIL

 

[DMczaf]

He pushed something that made a light on it activate, very clearly. Was it perhaps a two button press activation sequence?

You have to turn the key to trigger the bomb.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

You have to turn the key to trigger the bomb.

Yep, two keys were on the joker's detonators. The lights were there just to tell you the thing was active.

 

[WickedAngel]

I think this interpretation of Two Face is much better than any done before. This should be the defining version of Two Face. He's become a lot more now than a gangster with a messed up face, and a tommy gun.

I loved the movie, my only concern is where are they going to take the series now. I personally thought that leaving Joker's ending open like that called for him to return in the finale of the trilogy and be the main villain (He is after all, the epitome of Batman villains) but now that Heath is dead, and Two-Face is dead in the film world, I'm concerned as to where they are going to go.

Plot wise though, I was really surprised when Rachelle Dawes died and I thought it was a really good twist. I thought Batman was going to save Rachelle and then through the phone he'd hear Batman saving her, and he would think he was going to die, but instead he lives and becomes Two-Face and loses his mind, with his last sane thoughts being of saving Rachelle not him, and saw Batman condemned him to become Two-Face. But when what actually happened, happened I was surprised and didn't mind the twist at all.

Also, now knowing that they probably won't use Joker in the next film, I wish they had a different ending for Joker other than just leaving him upside down. I was hoping that Joker would "break" Batman mentally and eventually Batman would kill Joker. But that didn't happen. And I think I only really think that because now that Heath is dead, Joker can't really return for the next movie. Otherwise I wouldn't have wanted him dead.

Ah, so much to talk about and speculate about! Great movie, definitely want to see it in theatres again.

You know, I wonder how much of a stretch it would have been to have killed the Joker in the movie. He fell for quite some time before Batman caught him...perhaps it would've been better to have let that play out, given what has happened.



Since we're putting forward little mannerisms that stuck out to each of us, I'd like to mention one that stuck out to me. The dialogue between the police officer and the Joker after Batman/Gordon had run out was fantastic. I loved how he responded when the police officer told him that he had killed six of his friends.



*Edit*

One more question. Did Two Face actually get burned across the whole side of his body? I saw someone question why he didn't die but I thought I recalled seeing his neck and hand without burns/scars. The thing that threw me off was that his suit looked fucked up on that side after the transformation.

 

[Raguel]

I hated two face, very fucking annoying character, yeah we know your spouse got killed, move on fuck. I hated him throught the entire movie.

Yes, he's an annoying character because his fiancee died. I mean, jesus, it's just the person he loved. And there's no reason to be mad because all that he worked for crumbled by corruption, leading to his fiancee's death. And the fact that half his fucking body got burned to a crisp. But you're right, there's no reason for him to be mad at all. He should be as hardcore as you. *rolls eyes*

 

[kingocfs]

The image of two Face holding the gun to the kid's head is burned in my mind. My god, HE BECAME SO INCREDIBLY EVIL

Seriously. Aaron absolutely nailed his role.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Unless its in a commetary at some point we'll never know, but i'm convinced that Joker setup the ferry's bombs to blow up their own ship, and that the good civilians were going to blow themselves up.

Of course neither went off, but its something Joker would clearly do

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

The image of two Face holding the gun to the kid's head is burned in my mind. My god, HE BECAME SO INCREDIBLY EVIL

Seriously... I hate two-face after hat stunt he puled
I was like "shit. if the kid dies, Gordon would be scarred forever. Hell, he would personally kick Harvey's ass"

 

[-tetsuo-]

best lines in the movie

Batman: I dont need help.

Dr. Crane: Thats not my diagnosis.

 

[Rapping Granny]

Anyone got a wallpaper of that joker hospital scene?

 

[Keylime]

Unless its in a commetary at some point we'll never know, but i'm convinced that Joker setup the ferry's bombs to blow up their own ship, and that the good civilians were going to blow themselves up.

Of course neither went off, but its something Joker would clearly do

Nah, Joker was going to blow them both up but Batman shot his blades into him before he turned the trigger.

I was watching for it the second time.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

You know, I wonder how much of a stretch it would have been to have killed the Joker in the movie. He fell for quite some time before Batman caught him...perhaps it would've been better to have let that play out, given what has happened.

But then how would batman show he's the better man?



I just love how the first 20 minutes of the film are a bookend on Batman Begins. Remember all that stuff we left hanging? Here's us slamming the lid SHUT.

 

[Raguel]

Unless its in a commetary at some point we'll never know, but i'm convinced that Joker setup the ferry's bombs to blow up their own ship, and that the good civilians were going to blow themselves up.

Of course neither went off, but its something Joker would clearly do

No, joker set up each ferry with a remote to detonate the other ferry. Whoever detonates the other ferry survives. That's why the inmate did the honorable thing and threw the detonator away, thereby saving the civilian ferry

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Also, the parrallel between Gordon getting shot "dead" and Bruce Wayne's father was INCREDIBLE. When Gordon arrived back at home and his kids were tearing up and he embraced them....you just knew, right there, that's something Bruce Wayne never had.