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The Expanse |S1| Ubiquitous. Mendacious. Polyglottal. Like a couple of donkey balls.
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It improves, yeah. The third and fourth episodes are particularly strong thus far.
Most space opera pilots aren't great, IMO. It's a fault in our stars. (Ugh, I hate me sometimes.) But yeah, offhand the only exception I can think of is BSG's, and that had the extreme benefit of being three hours long.
Most space opera pilots aren't great, IMO. It's a fault in our stars. (Ugh, I hate me sometimes.) But yeah, offhand the only exception I can think of is BSG's, and that had the extreme benefit of being three hours long.
33 was amazing. But I guess that's because we had three hours of solid but unspectacular set-up. Well, if you like the show, Jeff, I gotta give it another shot. Thanks for the info!
Fault in our stars. Heh.
Napoleonthechimp
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Spoilers for the 5th episode.
After the "butcher of Anderson station" name popped up I had to google what's up with this show. The way they presented that nickname made it seem like there was way more importance to certain things that I'm not getting as a non-book reader.
33 was amazing. But I guess that's because we had three hours of solid but unspectacular set-up. Well, if you like the show, Jeff, I gotta give it another shot. Thanks for the info!
Fault in our stars. Heh.
...haha, you're not wrong: "33" is superior to the miniseries, which is solid but not terrific.
Still, "solid but not terrific" beats most other sci-fi pilots outta the water, haha.I hear ya, that's a bit of an issue here. Still, I'm not entirely sure how I'd rewrite the first few episodes to amend it. As it stands my biggest issue is that I wish the stakes felt bigger from the beginning; I think the scripts have visibly tried to get audiences to know and understand the cast in some ways, it's just that the success therein is fairly uneven.
Don't need to spoiler tag aired episodes but will do so anyway for new people still coming in!
Ep 5 spoilers:
He was the one that ordered the destruction of the station of Belt workers in Episode 5's flashback scenes. In previous episodes he passed himself off as OPA leadership when talking to the Mormons. So at this point all we know is the Roci crew is headed to Tycho station which is run by a man that committed terrible war crimes as a Colonel of the UN but has somehow found hiself in an OPA leadership position. Hes been given the nickname "Butcher of Anderson Station" by the public for his handling of that situation. Tycho station is clearly a very technologically advanced station with some of the brightest engineers working on the Mormon's generational ship. We don't really know what they are getting themselves into. Naomoi is pretty clearly terrified of him.
Agreed on the character development. The magnitude of events unfolding I thought were going to be handled through Avasarala's viewpoint and they didn't find a way to get an Inner Planet view on episode 4s big finale, but then again very little time has passed.
The books were pretty bad at this, the first book that is, we'll see how the show handles this. Honestly, I feel they've already done a better job with the characters than the book. I think the next episodes will focus more on the characters. I'll say that right now Holden is the character that feels really lacking at the moment.
Jag
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Agree. They really didn't feel like a coherent crew until at least the second book. Maybe they intentionally didn't want to flag who is important and who isn't. That's not even saying whether the crew as of Ep 5 changes.
It does get better. Holden is a fantastic character and they have only hinted at his major strength which is also a weakness.
Well, at least we know this show is 100% getting a S2.
Tony Redgrave
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I think that the issue with the characters is a little bit difficult to adress. The pace of the show is definitely good, it's just that it is very noticeable that it comes from a literary source and that it's being pretty faithful to boot.
There's a lot of information for a newcomer to sink in, specially the Belt and the OPA with the Belt Creole and all. IMO it's not like it's very complicated sci-fi but the book gave the audience a much wider berth to put the pieces in their heads. I'm actually surprised that they're succeding at making it connect so well having account they even complicated things by adding Avasarala to the fry, adding even more sub-plots.
The books are like this too, Leviathan Wakes doesn't get into full gear until
. The biggest offender in this respec for met was Cibola Burn, since it doesn't start getting together until VERY late into the narrative. Thing is, when they get going it's just awesome, that's why the series is so good.
There's a lot of information for a newcomer to sink in, specially the Belt and the OPA with the Belt Creole and all. IMO it's not like it's very complicated sci-fi but the book gave the audience a much wider berth to put the pieces in their heads. I'm actually surprised that they're succeding at making it connect so well having account they even complicated things by adding Avasarala to the fry, adding even more sub-plots.
The books are like this too, Leviathan Wakes doesn't get into full gear until
Eros when Miller and Holden meet
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Dominican Power
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This kind of show would of been better suited if it was a Netflix original series.
Freezasaurus
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I don't know. Not many networks seem to know how to handle Sci-fi shows.
I'm sure we'll get more character development soon. We've already got some bits on Avasarala and Miller, so just need to flesh out the Roci crew some more.
Holden - coffee mania
Naomi - belter engineer
Alex - space texan
Amos - naomi's cheerleader/bodyguard, etc
Maybe.
The episodes are all free on SyFy's website at least!
Holden - coffee mania
Naomi - belter engineer
Alex - space texan
Amos - naomi's cheerleader/bodyguard, etc
Maybe.
The episodes are all free on SyFy's website at least!
GavinUK86
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Freezasaurus
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So when Season 1 is over, is it going to basically have covered the first book?
There's like 5 more episodes left in the season? Nope.
At first I thought they have enough pace to cover entire book, but now... big nope. S1 will cover ~half.
That is a good thing, the events of "shit hitting the fan" sections of the 2nd part really need to get good and detailed coverage.
No wonder S2 got greenlit so quickly then!
No spoilers please, but in the sad event of this being cancelled, will we get a satisfying ending? Or does the book end on a cliffhanger (seeing as it was planned as a series)
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Am properly hooked now btw. Itching for the next episode. I really want to know what happens with that Mormon starship. You don't show something like that and then not use it in the story. Hints at a big expansion of scope in the story and I can't wait
Funky Papa
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I feel itchy just looking at him.
With that said, I'm adoring this show. I feel like it may be the next big thing since BSG.
In the past SyFy did the same with other shows, but not all of them who got early S2 pickup managed to get S3.
The book has incredible build-up to the finalle, and at the very end something cool and satisfying happens. There is more story to be told in that universe, but at the end of book1, those story threads are not yet introduced so TV watchers will be fine.
Cornballer
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New episode tonight:
Cornballer
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Ep 1-5 are up. Presumably they'll post Ep 6 after it airs(?)
Jag
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I knew the Expanse started as an RPG (so did Malazon), but I didn't know that part.
I can't seem to stream to my android phone though, which is sort of annoying. I don't spend a lot of time at a machine I can watch on (blocked at work).
Very cool. Did you happen to see who was playing all the characters? I imagine the authors were two. But curious which two.
Funky Papa
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Wait, what?
Cornballer
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It was a tabletop gig before it become the books this show is based off of, haha.
The whole article is here, with SPOILERS:
Evolution of a Space Epic
I wouldn't read it unless you've read the first book.
Abraham played as Detective Miller but they didn't mention the others. Pretty cool read anyway if you are a fan of the series. Franck was basically trying to break into the video game MMO world and wanted a EVE Online type game but with more adventures on ground.
Evolution of a Space Epic
I wouldn't read it unless you've read the first book.
Abraham played as Detective Miller but they didn't mention the others. Pretty cool read anyway if you are a fan of the series. Franck was basically trying to break into the video game MMO world and wanted a EVE Online type game but with more adventures on ground.
muzzymate
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Damn, that clip... Love it! Can't wait for tonight.
Exactly that. It started as an RPG campaign on a forum, but a player dropped out. The GMs were having such a good time writing the scenarios, they stopped gaming and wrote a book instead.
Jag
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Which came from a web forum play by post game!
This was a great read, I didn't realize they had books lined up until 2019. Yesterday I found out that they had another novella which came out a few months ago: The Vital Abyss.
I'll probably read that later on today.
Hopefully other books get picked up as series or films. I'm hoping for something with Avery Cates, and Takeshi Kovacs. (Both series are good reads!).
Takeshi could be great in TV form, however my best pick for TV adaptation is The Lost Fleet. Kinda impossible since 99% of the books are set inside a bridge of a single starship [and the rest 1% are few other rooms and hallways of that same ship
].The Lost Fleet. Kinda impossible since 99% of the books are set inside a bridge of a single starship [and the rest 1% are few other rooms and hallways of that same ship
Are you kidding? Have you seen ANY long running sci-fi show? Single set shows are the BEST ( due to budget). No aliens is second best. Again, just from a budget standpoint.
Cornballer
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- Onion A|V Club review
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag discussion as appropriate)
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag discussion as appropriate)
dead souls
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A bit maybe. Thank Zeus this guy is a million times better of an actor than Kit Harington.
I actually think he's about as bland and one-note as ol' Kit. His performance is my biggest issue with the show, although to be fair the script hasn't given him much to work with yet on the character front.
DangerMouse
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Yeah, I love how much story it feels like this show has.
Cool to hear. Yeah they have little spurts of being a good crew so I was curious about that.
Holden's been pretty good and cool so far with what the crew's been up to.
Nice moment with the crew at the end of the ep too.
Really enjoying this show.
That's a great gif. His reactions are great.
And the hat ofcourse!
Oh and he had an awesome reaction to learning his boss is dirty.
LOL
Also, "I'm gonna stop talking" lol
Yeah, I didn't even get where they were going with the uncle thing until the end of it.
Cool to hear. Yeah they have little spurts of being a good crew so I was curious about that.
Holden's been pretty good and cool so far with what the crew's been up to.
Nice moment with the crew at the end of the ep too.
Really enjoying this show.
That's a great gif. His reactions are great.
And the hat ofcourse!
Oh and he had an awesome reaction to learning his boss is dirty.
LOL
Also, "I'm gonna stop talking" lol
Yeah, I didn't even get where they were going with the uncle thing until the end of it.