The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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Parshias7 said:
I think you guys are just going to have to come to terms with the fact that The Flash will never actually operate at his full potential all the time. It happens plenty in the comics. Sure, sometimes you get Flash doing something super cool like rebuilding an entire building in a couple of seconds, or outrunning teleportation but then next week he's back and running into Deathstroke's stationary sword. If The Flash ever worked to his full potential every single comic or episode would spend the first panel/minute showing The Flash solving every problem everywhere and then the rest would be him just sitting around eating a million donuts.
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You're probably familiar with that subplot in Kingdom Come/Deliverance.
 
Parshias7 said:
I think you guys are just going to have to come to terms with the fact that The Flash will never actually operate at his full potential all the time. It happens plenty in the comics. Sure, sometimes you get Flash doing something super cool like rebuilding an entire building in a couple of seconds, or outrunning teleportation but then next week he's back and running into Deathstroke's stationary sword. If The Flash ever worked to his full potential every single comic or episode would spend the first panel/minute showing The Flash solving every problem everywhere and then the rest would be him just sitting around eating a million donuts.
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I don't think it will ever be as big problem here because I doubt Flash on TV will ever get anywhere near as fast as he is in comics. We're propably near max of his speed right now and in future he will be using different ways to use that power level, not learn hot to inceae it.
 
AdrianWerner said:
I don't think it will ever be as big problem here because I doubt Flash on TV will ever get anywhere near as fast as he is in comics. We're propably near max of his speed right now and in future he will be using different ways to use that power level, not learn hot to inceae it.
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But wouldn't it be great if he did?
 
the white background and yellow bolt always was on the costume from the future, even in episode one when wells looked at the newspaper it had that.
 
Corpekata said:
I assumed they left him out just for brevity's sake since we've seen variations of that scene a lot already.
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They can't have, they could have cut him coming down the stairs and in the bedroom etc for brevity's sake, BUT he's still missing and should have been there holding Barry at the end when RF goes over Barry and out the window.

I do think this is what that tweet is about, its a very major missing thing.

Edit.
Wrong, stupid is cowboy me.
 
The Cowboy said:
They can't have, they could have cut him coming down the starts (and the bedroom part) etc for brevity's sake BUT he's still missing and should have been there holding Barry at the end when RF goes over Barry and out the window.

I do think this is what that tweet is about, its a very major missing thing.
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This.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the deviations between Barry's origin on Arrow and his origin on Flash weren't connected to Wells.
 
The Cowboy said:
They can't have, they could have cut him coming down the stairs and in the bedroom etc for brevity's sake, BUT he's still missing and should have been there holding Barry at the end when RF goes over Barry and out the window.

I do think this is what that tweet is about, its a very major missing thing.
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Maybe future Barry made sure he wouldn't get home in time (messed up his car? Who knows how far away he is from home, or how late he usually works at the hospital?) to be blamed for the murder.
 
Kard8p3 said:
Maybe future Barry made sure he wouldn't get home in time (messed up his car? Who knows how far away he is from home, or how late he usually works at the hospital?) to be blamed for the murder.
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That's what I'm thinking to, Barry does want to make sure Henry isn't sent to prison (or is doing everything to get him out of it) and it would make sense for Barry to get him away from the house that night so there is no way for him to be blamed of the murder (
if in fact Nora died at all during that fight now
)

That or he got killed/divorced earlier in the timeline.

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All wrong, me am a stupid cowboy.
 
So the Flash that's fighting RF in the pilot isn't the same Flash that we see in the opening of the last episode? Could it be another consequence of Barry messing with the timeline in Rogue Time?
 
Maybe the newer scene of Nora's death is what happens at the end of the season, where all that happens is that everything that has happened remains the same with the only difference being Barry's dad doesn't get blamed for the murder. This would also mean Barry doesn't live with Joe which may mean that he has less of an incestuous relationship with Iris so they get together. Don't know why they would show this right now though.
 
Another major thing; do we actually see Nora die there?

Now that I think about it, holy shit there's a ton of differences. We got distracted by the sick CG-
 
BronsonLee said:
Another major thing; do we actually see Nora die there?

Now that I think about it, holy shit there's a ton of differences. We got distracted by the sick CG-
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I was thinking that, we don't see her die in the new one but also in the original scene the murder was off screen - in saying that RF did go out the window in the new fight and lost his powers almost strait away - so unless he ran back to kill her she was never stabbed (by him at least).

I do love this show, so much to pick at after the fact due to time travel stuff :D.
 
The Cowboy said:
There is 1 VERY MAJOR difference other than the suit change in the new fight 15 years ago.

Not an actual spoiler, I just covered it for those that want to try and catch on to it.
Henry Allen isn't there screaming "Nora" standing in front of Barry and saying "Run Barry, RUN!!!".

It is amazing how many people missed it, everyone was looking for the fine detail and not the very big missing thing right at the front.

Original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVAY-E0pQso

New one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GbPg7ePcEc
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Whoever put that video up cut him out of it. He's most definitely there in the episode.
 
Nabs said:
Whoever put that video up cut him out of it. He's most definitely there in the episode.
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You sure?, gonna double check on the CW.

Edit.
You are right, the YouTube video is indeed edited. In the show the starting scene is only showing part of the fight - later in the episode when we see the actual scene of RF loosing his powers Henry is actually there shouting Run Barry RUN".

My bad people, was basing my theory on the youtube edited scene :(.
 
There are some minor differences with one of them being the RF's red lightning being absent when young Barry is rescued. In the original pilot I saw it as RF chasing The Flash as Barry rescued his younger self, but in the revised version RF stays back and kills Nora.

Apt101 said:
I just watched the fight again, paused it a few times, and I think the Flash suit had the old school insignia from the comics? White background, big yellow bolt. Was it a different Flash?
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Yep.

People have noticed, but Greg Berlanti hasn't noticed people noticing.
 
More_Badass said:
So the Flash that's fighting RF in the pilot isn't the same Flash that we see in the opening of the last episode? Could it be another consequence of Barry messing with the timeline in Rogue Time?
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You sure its just not some unintentional effect from filming a more recent episode with the same scene and not using the exact same footage?
 
Seems to me like it might just be Barry later in his career. Gideon and Zoom's discussion when he loses his powers implied that he's been fighting the Flash a lot.

Of course given the time jumping it might just be a lot for him and not for Barry (yet).
 
Emwitus said:
He isn't the same. That Barry became flash in 2020 this one much earlier.
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I just realized, the previous timeline's Flash started when he was in his 30's which seems really old to me for that character.

WAIT WHAT IF THE PREVIOUS FLASH WAS JAY GARRICK :OOOOO
 
Xanathus said:
I just realized, the previous timeline's Flash started when he was in his 30's which seems really old to me for that character.

WAIT WHAT IF THE PREVIOUS FLASH WAS JAY GARRICK :OOOOO
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I also entertained the idea that the Flash from the future is someone else, but the DNA analysis clearly showed that it was Barry's blood.
 
Xanathus said:
I just realized, the previous timeline's Flash started when he was in his 30's which seems really old to me for that character.

WAIT WHAT IF THE PREVIOUS FLASH WAS JAY GARRICK :OOOOO
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Nah. It's actually brilliant because the original timeline had him start to be flash his his 30s, which is how he was in comics. We've seen complains about his being too young before the show started, but this twist makes it all fall neatly into a place.
 
AdrianWerner said:
Nah. It's actually brilliant because the original timeline had him start to be flash his his 30s, which is how he was in comics. We've seen complains about his being too young before the show started, but this twist makes it all fall neatly into a place.
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Quoted for truth.

chandoog said:
Wayne Tech and Queen Inc Merger

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Don't tell me you're seeing this for the first time. GAF discussed it to death when it first made an appearance in the series.

Yes, we know that the Arrowverse will never be able to adapt Batman. I'm sure this can be hand-waved away by saying this is a universe where WayneTech exists, but Bruce Wayne never became Batman.
 
Parshias7 said:
I think you guys are just going to have to come to terms with the fact that The Flash will never actually operate at his full potential all the time. It happens plenty in the comics. Sure, sometimes you get Flash doing something super cool like rebuilding an entire building in a couple of seconds, or outrunning teleportation but then next week he's back and running into Deathstroke's stationary sword. If The Flash ever worked to his full potential every single comic or episode would spend the first panel/minute showing The Flash solving every problem everywhere and then the rest would be him just sitting around eating a million donuts.
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This why i firmly believe Justice League part 2 will just be 90 minutes of the flash fixing the problems of the first movie with in the span of 90 seconds
 
Can I talk about Mark Hamill's acting again? That shit was on a whole 'nother tier.

And all these one liners. These movie references. All I can hear is the Joker.

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I had a Tweet to Mark Hamill and John Wesley Shipp favorited, existence justified. *Ignores that they've favorited seemingly every other tweet directed to them regarding that episode.*
 
I just caught up and watched the last three episodes in a row. This show is on some next level shit. So amazing.

There were a ton of great moments, but Thawne revealing himself to, and then killing Cisco was the tops. He's so great at being menacing. I really hope Cavanagh is still a regular even after he is in full villain mode, either as Wells from a different timeline or Thawne as a recurring villain.
 
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