I thought we all agreed that the time wraith was the Black Flash?If JWS is playing Jay, wonder if that means Henry is going to eat it? Especially if they're following the Arrow formula.
Predictions for who is in Black Flash's sights? Safe bet is one of Barry's Three Dads.
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The Flash S2 |OT2| Jays of Future Past - Tuesdays 8/7c
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BlackGhost
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Idk I'm not sure I accept this
It was just a flavorful way of saying "who do we think may die?". And I don't think that's accepted quite yet, he's not all that scary or intimidating. Oh no it's a ghost who doesn't like loud music!
Seven Force
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Awesome, the Helbings are writing this. The finale is probably going to be great, then.
If death can be repelled with vibrations, Cisco is practically immortal. And so is Harry Potter-- I mean Pied Piper.
If JWS is playing Jay, wonder if that means Henry is going to eat it? Especially if they're following the Arrow formula.
Predictions for who is in Black Flash's sights? Safe bet is one of Barry's Three Dads.
None of them are speedsters, so the Black Flash wouldn't give a damn
Because we need another scrubby big bad speedster.
- Grodd.
- Rogue War.
- Neron.
- Some 30th century villain or intergalactic threat for Bart Allen's season. Not Inertia, he's the ultimate fuckboi (so he'll probably get a slot).
- Final season of the show should be another Reverse Flash, basically with comic Hunter Zolomon's actual motivation.
Seven Force
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Yeah, this would be great. Especially if it was Eddie, since you could believably give him comic!Hunter's motivations. Hell, they could even use being sucked into the singularity as an explanation for having more time based speedster powers.
Cool, curious to hear if they will reveal something.
Is it on the audio version like the brandon routh interview or the video version?
Yeah, I believe it'll be the YouTube video version on Smith's YouTube channel. I just watched their spoiler Civil War review video last night after seeing the movie again and he mentioned it at the end of that video.
Seven Force
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Frank the Great
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Caitlin is going to unlock the darkness for no reason and with no real buildup at all. Trust me it will be very well done and not at all rushed.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It was Jay all along (again), they finally made a monkey out of me. Then Grodd shows up and stabs Wells.
That seems the most likely to be honest
MHWilliams
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Johns is involved. So I'm guessing either Grodd or the Top. Some villain with a strong mental component.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I would have to agree. If the show wanted to be extremely cruel, make it Iris, with the suggestion that her sudden reciprocation of Barry's feelings are part of some doppelganger's scheme. But they're not that mean. If it is someone in the main cast, it's almost certainly Snow. They have no idea to do with her since Cisco, Wells, and even Jesse can also rattle off science mumbo jumbo exposition.
Poodlestrike
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We Infinite Crisis now!
BLOODED_hands
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Barry Allen betrays Barry Allen. Past Barry doesn't trust Future Barry and kills his Future Self.
In all seriousness, maybe Crisco. That would be a surprise out of nowhere. No one would suspect it imo.
In all seriousness, maybe Crisco. That would be a surprise out of nowhere. No one would suspect it imo.
Johns isn't really involved anymore. He hasn't written anything this year or even had a story credit. Too busy with the movies and the fifty other things he does. Kreisberg has basically said Grodd is the plan. Money is the only thing in the way.
He's fun. More so than Savitar.
Jorok Goldblade
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Doesn't say who's being betrayed. I'm going to say Zoom is double crossed by his General, Black Siren.
Based on that Tom C. description, that could indeed very well be Wells. But I hope it is not unless it is some psychic stuff.
TheGreatDirector
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Well end up getting the Thinker as a big bad and they'll re-work just like the Arrow writers reworked Damien Darkh.
Reverse Flash was interesting. Zoom can be interesting sometimes.
That is true. Vampire Diaries keeps it fresh because of that.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Gotham immediately improved when it started doing this. It has been doing 2-3 episode arcs that overlap.
I wholeheartedly agree as far as these DC shows go. They don't plan out the seasons well enough to keep villains interesting for 20+ episodes.
Hey!
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
If Grodd's plan for next season is to steal Barry's speed, I'll go apeshit.
I like "Wells." Last season and this season.
KonradLaw
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At the very least if they want one season long big bad they should give him at least two big henchmen who would act as mino-bosses, each getting his own arc.
Arrow using Blood before Deathstroke worked nicely.
Flash needs a mildly known villain that appears to be the big bad for the first 9 episodes. Then the stinger is Grodd was controlling him the whole time. Because he's mad Barry let Patty leave the city because he had a crush on her.
Flash needs a mildly known villain that appears to be the big bad for the first 9 episodes. Then the stinger is Grodd was controlling him the whole time. Because he's mad Barry let Patty leave the city because he had a crush on her.
Yeah that would work great in a season with grodd as the big bad. Who would be a good villain to use for the first nine episodes?
KonradLaw
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Mirror Master.
The Cretan
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They could have smaller arcs with one or two rogues for the first 10 episodes and then they assemble the Rogues.
Blacksmith, Magenta, someone else from the new Rogues maybe. Or everybody's favorite Chunk. An organisation like Mercury Labs as suggested earlier.
Doesn't really have to be a villain actually, if there's mind control involved.
If they're using his mirror worlds that could be too similar to Earth-2 is my main worry.
Need to see what happens with Wentworth and Legends before delving too deep into that. I do want to see Cold's very strict moral codes going to war with a new, wild, killing Rogues at some point.
The Cretan
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They could use Captain Cold to insert the moral code of "no killing unless it's necessary, no drugs, just stealing" in a group of more ruthless people. Also, since he has more experience as a thieve and hero, it's logical that he will be the leader.
Simple fix, they go to a future Central City with an out of control Rogues group led by Wally Wizard. Cold says this isn't how they do things.
Caitlin has been Killer Frost all along and been playing Barry.
Or Wells is the real Wells.
Or Wells is the real Wells.
Seven Force
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I sincerely hope that it's this.
Wasn't the original pre crisis Black Canary (which I think Black Siren's based on) known for infiltrating and breaking up criminal organizations from the inside anyway?
Jorok Goldblade
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Yup. And after a fight against a magic based villain left her husband dead and gave her her Canary Cry, she moved from Earth 2 to Earth 1 to join the Justice League.
Hmmm. So 90s Flash was originally going to be a very different show:
https://youtu.be/BYF4KwLkBIg
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