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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel |OT2|

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Betta Lines

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S. L. said:
new Caterham logo,
somehow the letter spacing seems crooked to me
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Wowwwww. Seriously? That is awful! I dread to think how much somebody was paid to do that.
 
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Wes

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You know, if these commentators keep on moving up from class to class, station to station, by 2017 I might be reporting on Le Mans for Channel 5.

Edit: Damnit. Sky took Pinkham too? Guess I should've seen it coming.
 
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S. L.

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bobnowhere said:
JJ Lehto sentenced to prison: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96742

Hadn't heard anything about this for a while, thought it wan't being pursued. Lawyers to appeal though.
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A Finnish court said the 45-year-old was drunk and speeding on his boat, news agency Reuters reports.
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while tragic, this strikes me as funny. have been sailing around in that area and everybody is drunk there on their boats and nobody cares about speedlimits on waterways either.
 
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ANDY_098

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Saw this coming, sucks for Buemi and Alguersuari though. They weren't that bad, but I guess RB want to test out some future replacements for when Webber calls it a day?
 
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SCHUEY F1

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Wickens beats Vergne to the FR title...Vergne gets the F1 drive. Good times. I know it's predominantly sponsor related, but I'm still disappointed.
 
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Liquidsnake

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Off topic.

Last night I watched Senna for the first time. If you have not seen it yet, I can not recommend anything higher. It was very very good. I felt very strange going to bed after watching it last night. I was relaying the movie in my head, and I felt a strange sense of sadness.

Crazy 17 years later.
 
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Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
This may well happen again in two years if neither of them impress, then the next generation of Red Bull drivers will have their chance. A certain Carlos Sainz junior in particular.
 
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navanman

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Edmond Dantès;33461629 said:
This may well happen again in two years if neither of them impress, then the next generation of Red Bull drivers will have their chance. A certain Carlos Sainz junior in particular.
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Yup, this seems to be Helmut's thinking. To ditch both drivers is crazy but he seems to think they both aren't good enough to replace Webber so lets get in 2 new guys and continue the talent conveyor belt.

Think the French GP is a certainty now with 3 drivers on the grid, rotation with Spa it seems.
 
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G Rom

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Even as a Frenchman who is like 2h away from the Paul Ricard by car, it pains me to think that Spa wouldn't be on the calendar every year. :-/

Good news about the French drivers though, it really is crazy that we didn't have any drivers last year and now have 3 on the grid with Bianchi not far from it either.
 
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Am I the only one who is not shocked ALG and BUE are OUT? I saw this coming when neither could get the job done consistently enough this year for Toro Rosso, combined with Ricciardo needing a seat (so one of them was gone anyways) and the bevy of young talents with sponsorships looking to cut their teeth in F1.

Motorsports is, by and large, pay to drive now a days. NASCAR is in much the same boat and it doesn't help that the only way half the Nationwide teams can get sponsorship is to hand the keys over to a Sprint Cup driver for the race.

And for the record, I expect Maldonaldo will eventually lose his PDVSA sponsorship and his seat as a result.
 
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S. L.

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Buemi out is hardly surprising, ALG maybe a little.
It's more surprising that one of them didn't get the boot at the beginning of the season imo.
 
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Shaneus

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ashk said:
Wow, wasn't expecting that at all. Ricciardo getting a seat and JEV as Friday driver seemed possible, but this is much more interesting.
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Yeah, damn. Cutthroat.

Edmond Dantès;33461629 said:
This may well happen again in two years if neither of them impress, then the next generation of Red Bull drivers will have their chance. A certain Carlos Sainz junior in particular.
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Oh shit, really? I didn't even know there was one but traditionally most juniors/relatives have failed to impress (there are exceptions, obv) but if he's showing talent, then tres awesome. Sainz Sr. is still awesome.

navanman said:
Yup, this seems to be Helmut's thinking. To ditch both drivers is crazy but he seems to think they both aren't good enough to replace Webber so lets get in 2 new guys and continue the talent conveyor belt.

Think the French GP is a certainty now with 3 drivers on the grid, rotation with Spa it seems.
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Yeah, that's definitely the thinking behind the move. Rather than be a moderately successful mid-tier, be *the* ultimate proving ground for RBR.

Also, two Australians in the field. Must be the first time this has happened, I think. Perhaps we can somehow get Ricciardo to take out Vettel during a couple of races.
 
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DrM

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NihonTiger90 said:
Am I the only one who is not shocked ALG and BUE are OUT? I saw this coming when neither could get the job done consistently enough this year for Toro Rosso, combined with Ricciardo needing a seat (so one of them was gone anyways) and the bevy of young talents with sponsorships looking to cut their teeth in F1.
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I am not shocked, you could see on their faces in Abu Dhabi and Brazil that this is probably the end for them at STR.
Driver competition is fierce and if you can bring some additional 100k €/$ with you to team, you will have advantage. Until another driver with oil/gas/drug/etc connections appears and bring 1M €/$ on the table
 
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AcridMeat

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Good riddance to both. They were crap.
Can I work in F1 yet?

I'm really excited by the news, sucks for BUE&ALG but they weren't impressive and I didn't understand the positive marks to ALG at the end of the year. The number of times he would ignore the blue flag was ridiculous.
 
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Big Takeover

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I'm glad STR dropped them both. As a fan, I want them to find the next star as much as they do. "Good, but not great" doesn't do anything for me either.
 
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Ark

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Unfortunately, there is no time to 'get good' in STR. You're either good from the get-go, or you're being replaced.

Nice to see Ricciardo & Vergne on the grid though. Should be an interesting battle between the two of them. Hopefully STR will give them a good car to use too.
 
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Chris R

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Well to be fair, there is only really so much you could expect from ANY driver in the STR car last year. The car was a middle of the pack car (just like Sauber, FI, ect).
 
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Shaneus

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AcridMeat said:
Good riddance to both. They were crap.
Can I work in F1 yet?

I'm really excited by the news, sucks for BUE&ALG but they weren't impressive and I didn't understand the positive marks to ALG at the end of the year. The number of times he would ignore the blue flag was ridiculous.
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At least ALG has a music career to fall back on, amirite?
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Foliorum Viridum

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My FB feed wouldn't be the same without Acrid sharing bad music videos on it <3

Some of Brundle's tweets this morning have been quite interesting. I wish the BBC (or SKY now, I guess) had a post-season show every other week or something where they could get together and discuss the driver changes etc. Would be interesting.
 
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Shaneus

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I'd definitely be interested to hear what non-biased (by way of country of origin) experts think of Ricciardo... as well as the rest of the moves, for sure.
 
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Orgun

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Foliorum Viridum said:
My FB feed wouldn't be the same without Acrid sharing bad music videos on it <3

Some of Brundle's tweets this morning have been quite interesting. I wish the BBC (or SKY now, I guess) had a post-season show every other week or something where they could get together and discuss the driver changes etc. Would be interesting.
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Maybe you're following the wrong guy? I've only seen him share great music :)
 
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Wax Free Vanilla

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SCHUEY F1 said:
Please explain...I must have missed something?
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wickens tried to do a schumacher on vergne in the final race.

he only won the championship because of the damage caused to vernge's car, it put him in the clutches of fauzy who finished the job wickens started by retiring him.

vergne > wickens

The official F1 season review is available in high definition for the first time.

But is it good enough to persuade you to part with your hard-earned pennies?

The review itself gets off to a rather plodding start with a few dreary interviews. But with 19 races to pack in it speeds along.

So much so that the a proper introduction to the season – recapping driver moves and major technical changes – is entirely absent, which feels like a strange omission.

However there is some testing footage, including a brief glimpse of Robert Kubica in the car he sadly never got to race this year.

The real meat of the review is the race highlights and these are up to the usual high standard. Ben Edwards – BBC’s commentator for next season – does a first-rate job. Will Buxton supplies further background between the races.

There is no shortage of great material and a generous sprinkling of footage and team radio that hasn’t been shown before.

Monaco stands out as one of the best examples. It comes to life with plenty of interesting snippets from the drivers and the teams – particularly when the race is red-flagged, prompting some of them to wonder if the Grand Prix is over.

There is also a revealing interview with the McLaren drivers following the Spanish Grand Prix where they talk quite candidly about their debriefings and being stuck with insufficiently long gear ratios.

Among the other interesting moments revealed in more detail is the radio exchange between Mark Webber and the Red Bull pit wall in the closing stages at Silverstone – where the team told him not to race team mate Sebastian Vettel.

It begins with Vettel noticing the arrival of Webber on his tail and warning his race engineer to “be wise”. He is told, “we understand what you mean, we’re controlling the situation.”

Webber is warned first by his race engineer and then repeatedly by team principal Christian Horner to stay three seconds behind his team mate. “Maintain the gap, yeah,” acknowledges Webber, while clambering over Vettel’s rear wing.

Webber stays silent after the race while Adrian Newey tells him: “Sorry about that. We compromised Seb’s first stop to allow you the optimum stop from intermediates to slicks. I think it’s only fair that we held at the end.”

Among the previously unseen moments from the season is Felipe Massa’s collision with Jarno Trulli at Monza, for which the Ferrari driver can consider himself lucky not to have been given a penalty. A furious Trulli demanded he be handed one.

We also get more material from Suzuka, including Sergio Perez’s joke at his team’s expense and Vettel’s celebratory doughnuts after sealing his second title.

The qualifying incident between Webber, Michael Schumacher and Lewis Hamilton at Suzuka is revealingly played from the Red Bull driver’s point of view, along with his radio messages.

At Korea, a furious Helmut Marko remonstrates with Jaime Alguersuari after the Toro Rosso driver held Vettel up in practice. A clue as to why he’s lost his place at the team?

Much of the most memorable footage from the season is present and correct, from Webber’s staggering pass on Alonso in Spa to Rowan Atkinson’s facial contortions as Hamilton and Massa collide yet again in India.

I’d have liked to seen more on the teams further down the grid as they tend to get overlooked in the race broadcasts to begin with.

There is a rather high level of assumed knowledge about the 2011 rules – though that’s not likely to be a problem for F1 Fanatics!

And at times it feels there is too little context to the action. The dropping of the Bahrain round, for example, is entirely ignored.

On the other hand the exhaust-blown diffuser row is covered in great detail – almost excessively so, particularly the drawn-out press conference discussion between Martin Whitmarsh and Christian Horner.

The Blu-Ray edition offers an hour of extra features. Of those, one is particularly worthy of your attention.

It shows the highlights from the Chinese Grand Prix – undoubtedly one of this year’s best races – relying entirely on team radio messages to tell the story.

This is an excellent feature and should be repeated next year for all the races as an additional audio track.

You get a lot of footage and some great new material for your money. It may lack a little in sparkle, but then the season itself was not a classic contest.

Despite that it remains an essential end-of-year purchase – it’s just a pity it won’t be out in time for Christmas.

F1 Fanatic rating

Rating four out of five

“He’s Done it Again” – official 2011 F1 season review

Released: 26th December 2011

Price: £24.99 (Blu-Ray), £19.99 (DVD)
Publisher: Universal Pictures UK
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