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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel |OT2|

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Dead Man

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Psychotext said:
Just reading some more of the conspiracy theories involving Webber (specifically his car) and Vettel over at Planet F1.

You Webber fans really are a strange bunch.
Yeah, not so much Webber fans, by PF1 posters. They are a strange mob over there.

RomanticHeroX said:
The fact that only one of those photos is in color should be telling. So much crazy stuff has been tried in F1 that you could point to prior cars when talking about very many things. F1 has sorted itself out to be open wheel, open cockpit, and that's the image that defines the sport. I see a return to canopies and covered wheels as likely as a return to front engine cars or 4WD.

The most persuasive reason, at least for an argument against covered cockpits, is that it would be bad from a commercial standpoint. What F1 is ultimately sold on is the drivers and the heroics of the best racers in the world. If you cover them up you would absolutely lose that. Do you think most people would've realized the brilliance of what Senna did if they couldn't see him making the car dance?

Besides that, F1 is not and has never been about building the fastest car, period. It's about building the best car within the regulations, that everyone works from. That's why the sport is named for the formula from which they work. The regulations don't hold designers back, they're what makes the technical evolution of the sport interesting. Nobody doubts that a faster car would be the result of covering the wheels and cockpit, but that wouldn't be an F1 car.
As soon as you stop changing the cars, it stops being F1. It has always been about changing technology. Also, if you cannot see great driving without the filter of a famous driver, you probably can't see great driving at all.

Edmond Dantès said:
The canopies wouldn't be blacked out, they'd be perfectly transparent and glare proof. The drivers would be perfectly visible and if anything, it would allow for open faced helmets al a the WRC and LMP endurance racing.

This kind of canopy on a turbo car (MP4/4), without the need for an airbox would give a fantastic view of the driver working miracles in the cockpit.

http://i.imgur.com/CSLzY.jpg[IMG]

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That too.
 
Edmond Dantès said:
The canopies wouldn't be blacked out, they'd be perfectly transparent and glare proof. The drivers would be perfectly visible and if anything, it would allow for open faced helmets al a the WRC and LMP endurance racing.

This kind of canopy on a turbo car (MP4/4), without the need for an airbox would give a fantastic view of the driver working miracles in the cockpit.

http://i.imgur.com/CSLzY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/67Ncc.jpg
Appropriate that you'd choose a picture of Senna as a canopy would have most likely saved his life.
 
I was up late last night for school work anyway so I didn't notice, but I just now realize how much this race is gonna suck in my time zone. Qualifying starts at 4:30 this morning.
 

Dead Man

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RomanticHeroX said:
I was up late last night for school work anyway so I didn't notice, but I just now realize how much this race is gonna suck in my time zone. Qualifying starts at 4:30 this morning.
Like races in the Americas for Asian time zone peoples. Welcome to the club.
 
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Omiee

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i was watching free practice 1 and 2 yesterday and man do i lovethat track.

i love driving around in it in f1 2011 but it looks so good in real life.

im sure its going to be an exciting race, suprised at massa being so fast.

lets see what qualy brings us.


im at work so does anyone know a good stream?
 

Omiee

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Sleeplessnights said:
I wanted to know if it looked good or not, but I couldn't see it from all the dust.


ah come on now lol. it really looks like it will be an exciting race.


anyhow any one have a stream for qually

i really need one
 

Omiee

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Sleeplessnights said:
I'd have to watch the race to know if it's exciting.

The seat colouring trick really does work, I thought the it was full there.


track looks like it will make for some good overtaking spots.

that straight alone will count for a few over takes.








seriously no one have a stream for qualy for me =(
 

Dead Man

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Omiee said:
well usually i dont need a stream i just use the bbc app so i never look for a stream. but now im not at home.
All good ;) There are some other options on viptv, I just sent the top link they had.
 

Omiee

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Dead Man said:
All good ;) There are some other options on viptv, I just sent the top link they had.


yeah its working like a charm thanks alot.

im at work working over time, so i needed a stream on my second screen while i work.

thanks a lot man, really appreciate it.
 

Omiee

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i can see some drivers going wide deliberately to kick up a little bit of dust for the car behind them.

would be dangerous though so i doubt it
 

Dilly

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At least this is a proper F1 race track, not some straights followed by hairpins and chicanes which makes it look like a giant karting track.
 

Omiee

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Dilly said:
At least this is a proper F1 race track, not some straights followed by hairpins and chicanes which makes it look like a giant karting track.


what track you talking about lol.
 

Omiee

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Dilly said:
Shit like Abu Dhabi.


i kind of like abu dhabi, its a nice looking track.


but interesting story about that front wing of the redbull car that disapeared. what makes it even more interesting is that ferrari after that showed a front wing that is almost a photo copy of the red bull front wing
 

Dilly

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Dead Man said:
That's exactly what this is.

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There's a lot more flow in this track then in the examples I gave. And it has some interesting height differences.

Most drivers also seem to like it.
 

Omiee

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looks like rbr might have this one in the bag. looks like the race will be going rbr's way as well since they are the only car's that can handle the hard tyre
 
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