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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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WorriedCitizen
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Ferrari the big profiteer of a rule change. What a surprise. No wonder they kept so quiet the last two days.
Edmond Dantès
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He does random bits of commentary around the world; Aussie supercars for example. Hes very spritely for someone of his age. Great man.BrokenSymmetry said:
schroddycat
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Did anyone see Vettel talking to THE Stig?
"do you have a girlfriend? does she wear a helmet?"
haha, need a youtube clip on this.
"do you have a girlfriend? does she wear a helmet?"
haha, need a youtube clip on this.
brotkasten
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WorriedCitizen said:
FIA! FIA! FIA! :lol
Yeah, that was great. I wish they'd show that on Top Gear.schroddycat said:
scarybore
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McClaren seem slow, I imagine they will have better pace tomorrow but they must be hugely disappointed. Fuck knows what Hamilton was doing going out on old tyres are the end, a silly error for the team considering the very real possibility of more rain.
Great to see Di Resta and Kovalainen make the most of the conditions. Nothing to do with me choosing them for the fantasy league, nope, not at all! Respect for Maldonaldo and the awesome Kobayashi as well.
Was great listening to him during the practice session earlier today, as entertaining as ever.
Great to see Di Resta and Kovalainen make the most of the conditions. Nothing to do with me choosing them for the fantasy league, nope, not at all! Respect for Maldonaldo and the awesome Kobayashi as well.
Was great listening to him during the practice session earlier today, as entertaining as ever.
Edmond Dantès
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Vettel to top the Top Gear F1 leaderboard.schroddycat said:
brotkasten
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Wow, BBC's picture of Maldonado is really creepy.
brotkasten
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So after Silverstone we're going back to Valencia specs? What?
SunhiLegend
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It seems Ferrari are much closer to the Red Bulls now. Hopefully this season won't turn into such a drag and hopefully we can see someone other than the Red Bulls on pole. Shame for Mclaren, was hoping they can get into the mix for competing for the win aswell.
Wax Free Vanilla
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DrM said:
it's always mclaren's fault when hamilton puts in a sub-par performance :lol
have they got him under hypnosis or some thing? he has the final say with his engineer and he screwed up his lap, it's as simple as that - button on his scrubbed set of softs did a much better job
hopefully hammy crashes within the first couple of laps tomorrow
Joseph Merrick
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fucking excellent gp2 first race. wow
Wax Free Vanilla
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i wonder what ferrari will say... :lol
a fucking joke.
brotkasten
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Where?Joseph Merrick said:
At one of if not the most aerodynamically demanding circuits on the calendar, a circuit perfect for the Red Bull the Ferrari's are VERY close. Clearly they've caught up a lot and the change has benefited them. If they're this close...they'd more than likely be faster at medium downforce tracks.
Again as expected, with the off throttle effect removed Webber has clear ability to beat Vettel, like he had in most of 2010 prior to Red Bull implementing it. Still it was changing conditions in qualifying, but the game has changed for sure. I can't imagine Ferrari or several others agreeing to go back to Valencia settings.
Again as expected, with the off throttle effect removed Webber has clear ability to beat Vettel, like he had in most of 2010 prior to Red Bull implementing it. Still it was changing conditions in qualifying, but the game has changed for sure. I can't imagine Ferrari or several others agreeing to go back to Valencia settings.
PjotrStroganov
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The rule change is what helped Ferrari. They look stupid while explaining that their advantage has come from their own technical progress.
Foliorum Viridum
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Q1 and 2 were exciting. Q3 was pretty dull.
I don't know the names of the corners because I'm not a loser, but I LOVE that camera shot that's on a wire and covers 3 or 4 corners. It looks so fucking sexy and we need more shots like that in F1 please. Great to watch.
Disappointing that McLaren have seemingly lost their pace due to the rule changes.
I don't know the names of the corners because I'm not a loser, but I LOVE that camera shot that's on a wire and covers 3 or 4 corners. It looks so fucking sexy and we need more shots like that in F1 please. Great to watch.
Disappointing that McLaren have seemingly lost their pace due to the rule changes.
Well, looking forward to a more competitive race up front between Ferrari and Red Bull but kind of gutted that it seems to have set McLaren back somewhat. What was the deal with the used soft tyres for Hamilton in Q3?
Anybody else heading to Silverstone tomorrow? I'm hoping for a good race with a bit of rain thrown into the mix to spice it up. Hopefully watching Hamilton race from 10th will provide some entertainment.
Anybody else heading to Silverstone tomorrow? I'm hoping for a good race with a bit of rain thrown into the mix to spice it up. Hopefully watching Hamilton race from 10th will provide some entertainment.
Wax Free Vanilla
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So Williams and Sauber have not agreed to a change in rules.
brotkasten
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I'm surprised that Ferrari agreed. They seem to be confident enough.Dead Man said:
RukusProvider
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Come on FIA, do the right thing for once and overturn the rule. Make the rule changes for next season, if need be.
So, even after all that shit RBR still sits at the top thumbing their noses at the competition. No doubt the Ferraris are fast though. That was a close q3 but I hope it rains tomorrow in the off again on again pattern all through the race so we can get maximum carnage! Note: not crashing incidents, but confusion and strategy.
Mid season rule changes are crap. Repeal it FIA and then ban the off throttle blown diffusers next season if you must.
Mid season rule changes are crap. Repeal it FIA and then ban the off throttle blown diffusers next season if you must.
SunhiLegend
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DrM said:Yeah, that would be epic, if they suddenly fell behind when reverting to the old setup
I thought from Monaco onwards Ferrari were the only ones capable of catching the Red Bulls or at least be second behind them. Alonso was second both in Monaco and Valencia, and in Canada I thought he would have stood a chance for the podium again if not for the rain. Mclaren seemed to have dropped off the pace and variable weather is the only way they look like they can challenge the Red Bulls or Ferrari in the race.
After only witnessing what's happening with the race via the F1 iPhone app and here, it still remains interesting for me. Webber on pole is a surprise (though I'm keen to watch the quali... was it rain interrupted?) and I hope Ricciardo can do *something*. At least, make a name for himself without acting as a moving pylon.Nolan. said:
bloodforge
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I just hope it rains during the race tomorrow.
mclaren777
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Yep, this season is starting to look quite grim.navanman said:
SunhiLegend
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Same. Last year I would always watch the bbc forum and highlights a few days later but this season after each race ends I switch off and dont think about F1 until the next race weekend. Its been so predictable and dull because RBR racing are so far ahead. Hopefully Mclaren and Ferrari can step it up for next year.Ark said:
The European tour continues at the legendary Silverstone. There has been some drama regarding mid-season regulation changes shadowing this race weekend, but the real test will come during the race, where the impact of these changes will be better observed. Whether these changes stay in place is still to be decided, but it's almost safe to say that the off-throttle blown diffuser will be banned for next season.
2010 Race Summary
The race began with Sebastian Vettel attempting to force team-mate Webber into yielding on the approach to Copse corner, but the Australian prevailed and Vettel ran wide as he made contact with Lewis Hamilton in third. As the field passed through the Maggotts-Becketts corner, Vettel was seen to run wide, having picked up a puncture from the contact with Hamilton as Webber and the Briton escaped the rest of the field. Other first-lap incidents saw Felipe Massa earn a puncture after contact in the new section, and the two drivers were forced to pit, shunting them to the back end of the field.
The first casualty of the race was Lucas di Grassi, his VR-01 once again crippled by hydraulics failure, while at the front of the pack, Hamilton kept in touch with Webber as they raced on the softer tyre. His team-mate Button was able to carve his way through the field, having started fourteenth. The early phase of the race was marked by another minor stewarding controversy as Fernando Alonso attempted to pass the struggling Robert Kubica on the entry to Vale. Alonso was forced off the circuit and recovered to take the second half of Club corner, but passed Kubica in the process. Alonso was given a drive-through penalty for failing to give the place back to Kubica, but problems began when Adrian Sutil made contact with Pedro de la Rosa on the main straight. Although both drivers were able to continue for the time being, de la Rosa's rear wing was damaged and it started to disintegrate as the Sauber took to the Hangar straight. He pitted and was released back into the race, but it was a mortal wound and de la Rosa was forced to retire. The debris on the circuit at the approach to Stowe prompted the deployment of the safety car, bunching the field back up. This was a problem for Alonso because he was unable to serve his drive-through penalty until after the safety car had withdrawn, sending him plummeting back down the order. Reactions from the commentators were unsympathetic, with many feeling that Alonso could have avoided trouble by giving the place back to Kubica at the earliest possible opportunity. Nevertheless, it was still described as a harsh penalty because Kubica had been forced out of the race with driveshaft problems before the de la Rosa-Sutil incident. Charlie Whiting, the FIA's race director, later told reporters that Alonso and Ferrari had been advised to yield to Kubica as soon as the Spaniard had passed the Renault, and twice more after that before the penalty was issued. Ferrari later released a timeline of the Alonso-Kubica pass and following events, showing that Charlie Whiting had told them he "had to look at pictures" and did not recommend Alonso return the position until a full two minutes after the controversial pass (critically after Alonso had already passed Alguersuari).
The unintended effect of the safety car deployment was that it bunched the field up again. Sebastian Vettel, who had been just three seconds ahead of Mark Webber on the road, was able to join the rear of the safety car train and proceeded to wage war against the rest of the grid, picking them off one by one. Several other battles also picked up, with Alonso and Liuzzi bashing wheels and Petrov threatening Nico Hülkenberg's tenth place until the Russian developed a slow puncture and was forced to pit. Meanwhile, Vettel continued his charge, made more complicated by the retirement of Jaime Alguersuari. The Toro Rosso driver beached himself at low speed on the outside of Luffield with eight laps to go, prompting marshalls to display yellow flags at the end of the new Wellington Straight and thus denying Vettel and opportunity to pass countryman Sutil into Brooklands. Vettel eventually bullied his way through, forcing a gap at Aintree several laps later. Sutil was left unimpressed by the pass as he came under fire from Schumacher, who himself had to fend of the tenth-paced Nico Hülkenberg.
Mark Webber claimed line honours as the first man home, just over a second ahead of Lewis Hamilton. Nico Rosberg claimed third place, Mercedes' first podium since the Chinese Grand Prix, with Jenson Button missing out on the winner's rostrum by half a second. Rubens Barrichello led Kamui Kobayashi across the line before the German quartet of Vettel, Sutil, Schumacher and Hülkenberg completed the points. The Ferraris of Alonso and Massa finished fourteenth and fifteenth, one minute down and the last drivers to finish on the lead lap. Jarno Trulli was the first driver for the new teams to finish, ahead of team-mate Kovalainen and the sole surviving Virgin of Glock and the two Hispanias. Despite being classified two laps behind race winner Webber, Timo Glock was within sight of the Lotuses when he crossed the line as the Australian had passed him close to the end of the final lap.
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Edmond Dantès
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Outstanding job as always Leunam.Leunam said:
NihonTiger90
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moojito said:
Correct. It's last year's layout. This is the layout from 2011 onward, in video form via RFactor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKAk2_4bhv4
EDIT: Oops, already fixed.
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