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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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Juicy Bob

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I see you've sold the F1 rights to a group I don't love,
Bernie, FUCK YOU-ooo-oooh!
I guess our licence fee money wasn't enough,
Bernie, FUCK YOU and FUCK FOM TOO!

I said if I was richer, I still wouldn't pay more.
This deal is shit. (This deal is shit)
I hope those pains in your chest,
Start to re-manifest.
Bernie, FUCK YOU-ooo-oooh!

Bernie I'm sorry, I can't afford a Ferrari.
And now this means I can't watch one either.
We wanted an Xbox, you gave us an Atari,
And the way you run this sport aint fair.

I pity the foo-ooo-ools, who do business with you.
(No shit you're a gold digger, just go you old codger)
Oooh-oooh, I've got some news for you,
Yeah go run and tell your little mate Rupert.

I see you've sold the F1 rights to a group I don't love,
Bernie, FUCK YOU-ooo-oooh!
I guess our licence fee money wasn't enough,
Bernie, FUCK YOU and FUCK FOM TOO!

I said if I was richer, I still wouldn't pay more.
This deal is shit. (This deal is shit)
I hope those pains in your chest,
Start to re-manifest.
Bernie, FUCK YOU-ooo-oooh!
 

DD

Member
Adelaide > Melbourne. =(

Anyway, have you seen that? Freddie Mercury tribute. xD

freddie.jpg
 
zomgbbqftw said:
Fuck you BBC, I give so little shit about the Olympics, let alone the fucking torch relay. Fuck!
F1 is an expensive, non-green, sport for the elite. I imagine there are a number of people at the BBC ecstatic with todays news, who viewed F1 on the same level as 'televised fox hunting'.

The Olympics however, it's perfectly BBC. They'll be furiously wanking themselves off to the diversity/multiculturalism/inclusivity/everyone-holding-hands of it all for the next year.

At least they've still got MotoGP, that's something at least.
 
marvelharvey said:
F1 is an expensive, non-green, sport for the elite. I imagine there are a number of people at the BBC ecstatic with todays news, who viewed F1 on the same level as 'televised fox hunting'.

The Olympics however, it's perfectly BBC. They'll be furiously wanking themselves off to the diversity/multiculturalism/inclusivity/everyone-holding-hands of it all for the next year.

At least they've still got MotoGP, that's something at least.
They put very little effort into the MotoGP coverage.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Dead Man said:
So so much. And nice one at the Mercury tribute.

They should leave the mustache on the car for quali or practice.

McLaren strong it seems, maybe I should add them to my league team? Last week was a bummer with RBR/RBR...
 
I've only ever been a casual follower of F1, but I won't be paying attention at all next season thanks to this. I don't pay for Sky and certainly won't be switching to their service just for F1, so looks like I'll be following another motorsport next year.

What channel (if any) has the WRC rights at the moment?
 

operon

Member
Bootaaay said:
I've only ever been a casual follower of F1, but I won't be paying attention at all next season thanks to this. I don't pay for Sky and certainly won't be switching to their service just for F1, so looks like I'll be following another motorsport next year.

What channel (if any) has the WRC rights at the moment?

dave shows a good bit of the wrc I think
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/2011/07/f1_coverage_to_be_shared_betwe.html

We announced today that from next season the BBC will be sharing coverage of Formula 1 with Sky Sports.

There has been considerable reaction to the news so I feel it's important to explain some of the background behind what has happened.

The headline is that under a seven-year deal starting next season, we will be showing 10 of the races in the F1 calendar, plus the corresponding qualifying and practice sessions, live on BBC TV.

We will broadcast extended highlights for the rest of the grands prix just a few hours after the chequered flag has been waved. Sky will have live action from all races, qualifying and practice sessions.

There has been a great deal of unsettling speculation recently about F1 rights. Amid all the rumour and counter-rumour, our production and on-air team have shown huge professionalism, dedication and expertise to keep delivering the high quality output that has become the trademark of our coverage.

The speculation is now over. This new arrangement extends the BBC's commitment to F1 by a further five years - our existing contract, which gave us exclusive rights in the UK, was due to expire in 2013. But of course it does mean our coverage will not be as comprehensive as it has been in recent years.

So why are we sharing the coverage with Sky when up to now it had just been us?

Ultimately, of course, decisions about which media organisations get the chance to broadcast F1 are taken by Bernie Ecclestone's Formula 1 Management (FOM). But from the BBC's perspective the new set-up provided us with an opportunity to continue our association with this gripping sport, which has captured the imagination of our audiences since it returned to BBC screens in 2009, with viewing figures at a 10-year high this season.

And while our coverage from 2012 may not be as extensive as it has been up to now, the bare facts are that the BBC needs to save money. Given the financial circumstances in which we find ourselves, we believe this new deal offers the best outcome for licence-fee payers.

In a sense this partnership with Sky is another example of how the landscape of sports broadcasting has been transformed in recent years. There was a time when the BBC and other public service broadcasters could expect to televise all the big sports themselves. Now though we have a 'mixed economy', with some events on satellite while others are on terrestrial.

And although this may be the first time the BBC has shared Formula 1 with another broadcaster, there is a long-standing pattern of partnerships between free-to-air and pay TV to cover major sports. So the Champions League can be watched on both Sky and ITV; US Masters golf is now shared between ourselves and Sky (with audiences for that event up this year); and then of course there is the Premier League - with live games on Sky and ESPN, while our ever-popular highlights programme Match of the Day keeps football fans entertained on a Saturday night.

This new F1 arrangement will allow us to tell the story of the whole F1 season for BBC viewers, while providing extended access to the biggest moments in the calendar: including the glamour of Monaco, the excitement of the last race of the season, plus the British grand prix at Silverstone, which remains one of the highlights of the UK's sporting summer.

In addition to our award-winning TV output, we will continue with our exclusive radio coverage on 5 Live and 5 Live Sports Extra as well as our comprehensive F1 website and mobile services and the regular broadcasts on BBC News outlets. We know F1 fans appreciate the extensive multi-platform coverage we offer and, as well as capturing those big moments on TV, we pledge to keep audiences up to date with all the news and action throughout the season, wherever they are.

You will appreciate these are early days, with much still to decide, including some of the detail around our own production. We will let you know as soon as there is more to say on that front - but in the meantime there is the small matter of the 2011 season to focus on.

Ben Gallop is the BBC's Head of F1
 
marvelharvey said:
F1 is an expensive, non-green, sport for the elite. I imagine there are a number of people at the BBC ecstatic with todays news, who viewed F1 on the same level as 'televised fox hunting'.

The Olympics however, it's perfectly BBC. They'll be furiously wanking themselves off to the diversity/multiculturalism/inclusivity/everyone-holding-hands of it all for the next year.

At least they've still got MotoGP, that's something at least.

Ugh, I can't wait until I can book tickets in September so I can get out of London. Thailand here I come...
 

Juicy Bob

Member
Bernie needs to step down. I wonder if there is a way in which we could all lobby FOTA and speak in a collective voice. Bernie's decisions always seem to be in the opposite interests of the fans these days.
 

Juicy Bob

Member
DrM said:
I just wonder when will Bernie sell his daughters. I would buy younger one for 1000 €. :D
I'd offer to share them with you every other weekend, and only then a few hours after you'd had a go with them.
 
If the BBC do show the whole race after the fact in the evening I could get on board with this. It would be difficult to go the whole day without knowing the result, but possible. If they did it in HD on BBCHD and BBC2, I would definitely be less bothered in that case.
 
Martin Whitmarsh:

The BBC will show every grand prix in full, half of them live and half of them deferred, so free-to-air is available to everyone.

The Demon Headmaster:

They [BBC] may yet do the whole race deferred, we have to see.

The BBC:

We will broadcast extended highlights for the rest of the grands prix just a few hours after the chequered flag has been waved.


clusterfuck!

as long as the bbc have all the grand prix in full and in hd sky can go and fuck themselves
 

DD

Member
Oh wow, now I feel sad for my british fellows. =(

Will this affect only UK? What about the other open channels around the world?
 
Daniel Dantas said:
Oh wow, now I feel sad for my british fellows. =(

Will this affect only UK? What about the other open channels around the world?
It "only" affects the UK. "only", because BBC had the best coverage in the world.

e: Title change?

The Formula 1 2011 Season of Bernie Fingering the BBC |OT|
 

avaya

Member
It's a pretty shit situation if the BBC wanted to cut.

Going Pay-TV is strictly prohibited for major markets within Concorde. It only makes sense if the BBC wanted to cut. So here's the shitty solution we have.
 
SunhiLegend said:
I'm assuming if bbc do stream the whole race afterwards it will only be the race with no build up or post race forum.

It would be sick if they had the whole shebang there, but just delayed. Unlikely, but even so, it would be awesome. I would definitely wait out the results and avoid the internet until the show on the BBC.
 

avaya

Member
Sky's coverage of F1 the last time they did it in 2002 was STUNNING. BBC coverage today doesn't not even come close to it. All sessions live, no adverts, good commentators (Ben Edwards) and analysts. Just a twat of a host in Matt Lorenzo. Dedicated pit camera's, dedicated timing screens, dedicated on board camera's and action, leader cam. If you missed it, you could still watch the ENTIRE WEEKEND from start to finish again for several days afterwards.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
avaya said:
Sky's coverage of F1 the last time they did it in 2002 was STUNNING. BBC coverage today doesn't not even come close to it. All sessions live, no adverts, good commentators (Ben Edwards) and analysts. Just a twat of a host in Matt Lorenzo. Dedicated pit camera's, dedicated timing screens, dedicated on board camera's and action, leader cam. If you missed it, you could still watch the ENTIRE WEEKEND from start to finish again for several days afterwards.

That would be nice but can't happen now. All TV and radio feeds are provided by the FIA and its up to the broadcasters to do what they want with them.
The BBC did the absolute maximum you can do with the current feeds, I can't see anyway for Sky to better it bar repeating the race to fill up some time slots.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
SunhiLegend said:
I'm assuming if bbc do stream the whole race afterwards it will only be the race with no build up or post race forum.
I'll probably handled in a similar manner to Eurosports MotoGP race coverage. Race coverage shown a few hours later with little build-up and the commentary team in a studio in the UK.
 

Goldrusher

Member
Dilly said:
Belgium and The Netherlands too.
Not really.

Officially our channels are VT4 in Flanders, La Une in Wallonia and RTL7 in The Netherlands.
Sure, we're affected because many watch it on the BBC, which most people have in the basic cable package as well. But it's not as if the BBC is our only or even default channel for F1.
 
zomgbbqftw said:
It would be sick if they had the whole shebang there, but just delayed. Unlikely, but even so, it would be awesome. I would definitely wait out the results and avoid the internet until the show on the BBC.
Well they wouldn't be saving all that much money if they did, would they?

I fully expect the forum to get the chop next year, and the general quality of coverage may well regress to the pre-1997 standard of only occasionally bothering to fly people out to the circuit. Guess it will all depend on how much money the corporation can save elsewhere.

Also, with regards to Bernie's comments about the deal growing F1's audience, there's no way in hell that the combined viewing figures for Sky's coverage and the BBC highlights will match what the BBC are currently getting. But even if they were the same, the actual hours of coverage watched by that group would be far lower, meaning less of that valuable exposure time for sponsors, especially those of smaller teams - who won't fare well in highlights.

It's also clear that no one really wanted this deal, the BBC just needed to cut costs immediately, and no other terrestrial broadcaster could pick up the bill, leaving Sky as the only option.

Such a shame the Tories hate the BBC.
 
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