Sleeplessnights
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Edmond Dantès said:
This track list would leave Bernie bankrupt. (To his standards)
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This track list would leave Bernie bankrupt. (To his standards)
Edmond Dantès said:
i miss those days, for me magnes cours, Argentina and imola signify that 90's 00's feeling, to me those are the golden years in F1. Since im 22 i missed the 70's and 80's, so i didnt get to see senna etc. Man do i miss those intense grand prix's. There was so much pressure on the drivers to than now.
Edmond Dantès
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He'll be gone eventually, as morbid as that sounds.Sleeplessnights said:This track list would leave Bernie bankrupt. (To his standards)
That will be a landmark event in the history of F1. I just wonder who will replace him and what path F1 will take from that point on.
Sleeplessnights
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Edmond Dantès said:
It's either his clone or someone from F1 Gaf. There's no middle ground here.
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I nominate Ark.Sleeplessnights said:
Sleeplessnights
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Edmond Dantès said:
Ark said:
Brilliant XD
Foliorum Viridum
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Bahrain is great to drive!Sleeplessnights said:
... in F1 2010
I'm reserving judgement on the spectacle of it until we see it with DRS/KERS next year.
Sleeplessnights said:
I must admit, timing wasn't great
What I mean is that F1 needs to maintain the balance of the old, traditional tracks with new tracks in new territories. F1 just keeps on growing massively over the last few years, new tracks in Russia, the US, proposals in Croatia, Mexico, South Africa, New York...The list goes on.
My 'current' calendar would probably be this:
Melbourne
China
Monaco
Montreal
Paul Ricard/Magny Cours
Red Bull Ring
Silverstone
Nurburgring GP Circuit
Texas (As Edmond said, depends on how the races go)
Singapore (I think Singapore is just as important as Monaco now)
Spa
Monza
Suzuka
Sao Paulo
There's room for a few more, but that would be it for me at least.
Shaneus said:
That would be logistical suicide
Here you go Gents,
Schumacher's presents:
Ferrari's Present
and I think Ross Brawn's:
Then here are two I'll offer up, hundreds if you PM me
Nice shot:
Mercedes & Schumi
Modern Senna:
Senna in rain
Schumacher's presents:
Ferrari's Present
and I think Ross Brawn's:
Then here are two I'll offer up, hundreds if you PM me
Nice shot:
Mercedes & Schumi
Modern Senna:
Senna in rain
Foliorum Viridum
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It's rare my 2048x1152 monitor is stretched, but you managed it!
Edmond Dantès
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Thank for these. Your contributions are really adding to this thread.mblitek said:Here you go Gents,
Schumacher's presents:
Ferrari's Present
and I think Ross Brawn's:
Then here are two I'll offer up, hundreds if you PM me
Nice shot:
Mercedes & Schumi
Modern Senna:
Senna in rain
Sleeplessnights
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Just found my new wallpaper http://imgur.com/hNnRw Thanks a lot
Awesome Ferrari gift, very creative!
http://imgur.com/hNnRw Thanks a lot Awesome Ferrari gift, very creative!
mblitek said:
That's actually really amazing. The statistics on that engine cover alone are testament to Ferrari's dominance in the early century.
Does anyone know where Stephano was within Ferrari during those infamous five years? I remember hearing that it was him who walked with Schumi when he went to go ape shit on DC in '98, but I'm still curious.
Sleeplessnights
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Ark said:
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Don't care. I want more Mark!Ark said:That would be logistical suicide
Anyway, I'd love to see a massive retooling of the race calendar. I'm not as familiar with the tracks as most of you are but I definitely prefer seeing races at the more historical/"natural" tracks than the ones that are designed specifically as tracks (although there are obvious exceptions).
Just as long as we don't lose Melbourne in a hurry... though by the looks of things, that looks more likely to be decided by local government rather than the FIA.
schroddycat
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From James Allen's blog,
Vettel is already the youngest ever double world champion to me. But still, since the next races are Monza and Singapore, where Ferrari is hoping to win at home race and Alonso has been traditionally strong at Singapore, I really hope Alonso could win both races so that this season doesn't wrap up that quick when there would be just 5 races left.
Maybe I need to perform some bloody ritual to get this materialized.
James Allen said:
Vettel is already the youngest ever double world champion to me. But still, since the next races are Monza and Singapore, where Ferrari is hoping to win at home race and Alonso has been traditionally strong at Singapore, I really hope Alonso could win both races so that this season doesn't wrap up that quick when there would be just 5 races left.
Maybe I need to perform some bloody ritual to get this materialized.
A million times this. Assuming RBR would support their statement about backing the driver with the best chance to win, Webber would actually have a shot by being ahead of his teammate after the first few corners/lap therefore winning a race or two.DrM said:
He really, really needs to get that shit sorted. Heartbreaking to see it happen so fucking regularly.
He is looking just like Rubens in 2009, he also had atrocious starts that season and Brawn never figure it out why.
In his Jaguar days, Webber burnt clutches like crazy
DC explains how the clutch works
In his Jaguar days, Webber burnt clutches like crazy
DC explains how the clutch works
Unless Mark and Seb prefer different 'bite' points, I can't really work out why they'd both have such different performances off the line this year. I thought all you needed to do was to hold the revs at whatever point is most effective, drop the first clutch as soon as the lights go out and then gradually release the 2nd clutch. Mark's issue always seems to be in the initial launch phase, so I can't put it down to anything other than the driver without knowing any more about the technicalities of the Red Bull.
Also, it's amazing to me that it'll seemingly take such an effort for Seb to wrap up the title by Singapore. He'll have it by Japan though. That's almost guaranteed.
Also, it's amazing to me that it'll seemingly take such an effort for Seb to wrap up the title by Singapore. He'll have it by Japan though. That's almost guaranteed.
Edmond Dantès
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I guess it's a lesser of two evils. There are only two circuits in France realistically capable of hosting a Formula One race; Paul Ricard and Magny-Cours. Le Mans wouldn't really be viable, the Bugatti circuit is too short, Dijon-Prenois is pretty much a relic of the past. The other tracks in France are lacking Grade 1 status.itsgreen said:
Speaking of which; France had some glorious tracks in the past.
Autodrome de Linas-Montlhéry
Charade Circuit
Rouen-Les-Essarts
Dijon-Prenois
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Very Freudian.S. L. said:
Dijon also produced the greatest F1 battle ever.
Gilles Vileneuve versus René Arnoux
Edmond Dantès
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An onboard with Graham Hill.Juicy Bob said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwymhDcrDjQ&feature=related
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Indeed, I died at Rouen more than any other circuit. One of my favourite, so dangerous. GPL is coming up to its 13th birthday by the way, can't believe how old (and awesome) it is.Juicy Bob said:
I love how the vid-editor has a single 'car accelerating' sound file and simply loops it every 30 seconds. Should've sampled a GPL lap instead!Edmond Dantès said:
Ark said:
I dont know though, i think they (mercedes) did pretty well. Its the little things they have to improve on. They had immense speed, they need to improve their aerodynamic package, and i could see them winning races next year.
Question: Who was more important to red bull coulthard or vettel? Vettel brought them race wins and a championship, but coulthard was at the beginning and all the improvements.
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Adrian Newey and his design team. Without them Red Bull would be just be another run of the mill team and Vettel and co wouldn't be in the situation they find themselves in.Omiee said:
I miss the A1-Ring, the climb to the first corner was amazing, and the second half of the circuit going down...
This is the latest on the circuit I think: http://www.redbull.com.au/cs/Satell...da-Marko-on-the-Red-Bull-Ring-021243016525072
This is the latest on the circuit I think: http://www.redbull.com.au/cs/Satell...da-Marko-on-the-Red-Bull-Ring-021243016525072
Omiee said:
Of course Coulthard would have brought his McLaren experience into the team, but he only has a small part to play in RBR's success.
Don't forget that Red Bull spent SO much time restructuring the company after they bought Jaguar, if I remember rightly, a lot of RBR used to be part of Jaguar so they would have needed the time to settle in to a new atmosphere.
Also remembering that in the early days after buying Jaguar, McLaren and Ferrari had pretty much worked out and added everything to the cars that the current technical regs would let them, with Sauber and Honda just behind them.
Pretty much all of RBR's success has come from McLaren and Ferrari royally screwing up the new tech regs in 2009.
It'll be very interesting to see what happens with RBR after 2014.
Ark said:
Hell no, thats not fair to red bull. Your taking away from their brilliant strategy the last few years. Saying pretty much the only reason RBR is succesfull is because of mclaren and ferrari's screwups is unfair.
Its a lot of things that make that team good. Its newey, its horner's strategy. Its webber and coulthard experience. Its vettel who is a young shumi in the making. I have confidence they can still be a championship contender after the new engine's and regulations.
Also i like the team more than ferrari and mclaren, ferrari and mclaren in a lesser way are so uptight.
Sleeplessnights
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Ark said:
Whatever happens in 2014, Red Bull have already established themselves as one of the big teams.
I think next year is going to be interesting; Mercedes, Renault and Williams (?) All hoping to make a winning car.
Omiee said:
No matter what you're going to say, it's true.
Both McLaren and Ferrari made horrendous cars in 2009. If McLaren had the car they had at the end of 2009 at the start of 2009, RBR wouldn't have been so 'special'.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking away from RBR's success, they have very much created their own success, but they have had the good fortune of the two giants messing up for three years in a row.
EDIT: I've also gotta say that I'm a huge fan of post-Dennis McLaren. Whitmarsh is probably the best thing to happen to McLaren since Hamilton.
Sleeplessnights said:
Red Bull already have established themselves as a top team. But the question remains whether or not RBR will still be here in 8 years as RBR. At the end of the day, they're owned by a drinks company.
Ark said:
Look im not going to deny, 2009 was a horrible year for mclaren and ferrari, and red bull and brawn were the teams to benefit from that. But in my opinion thats taking away from the huge effort red bull has put in to get them were they are now.
They made all the right decisions. 2009 they were right there with brawn, 2010 they were amazing all year long, and this year the team benefited the most of the new tyres.
Just because ferrari and mclaren made all the wrong decisions, doesn't mean red bull was lucky. It means ferrari and mclaren were stupid. not red bull being lucky.
Also mclaren chose to ditch the 09 car instead of improving it like red bull did. Thats their decision. If the 2009 car was that good, why dident they just improve on it like red bull did with their car?
Ark said:
I disagree, they have no reason to step out of the sport. the whole image red bull has is cool and sport etc. Thats a image that they want to keep with their red bull planes, motorsport etc. Also they are not spending millions like the other big teams used to. They have a reasonable budget and i think they are making a profit. ( i should look this up )
Also dont they get like 100 million or more from the constructors championship?
EDIT: i found this
http://www.pitpass.com/40208-Red-Bull-spending-accelerates
Old article but still.
I remember horner saying the boss of red bull gives them just enough budget, but he never says no if they can justify why they need the money.
http://www.f1network.net/boards/read/s107.htm?110,9624398
dont remember if this is true, but that alone would give them enough budget.
Omiee said:
Beats me. I'm going to presume it had something to do with the double diffuser.
Exactly, so RBR got lucky. You contradicted yourself here
Same could be said for Renault in 2005 & 2006.
Although regardless of their WCC bonus, they wont get half as much money as McLaren and Ferrari do from the magical history money pot
I'm not calling their budget into question, just the longevity of the team. Will RBR still be around in 10 years? Who knows.
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