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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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Edmond Dantès
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Rubens got his time in qualifying, Montoya in pre-qualifying. So, the official recorded time is held by Montoya, but the qualifying record is held by Rubens.Leunam said:
Leunam said:
As does Wikipedia, looked it up and it says this, "The race was perhaps best known for speed records set during the race. In the first part of qualifying (which did not count towards grid positions), Juan Pablo Montoya lapped Monza in his Williams FW26 at an average speed of 262.242 km/h (162.9 mph), the fastest ever qualifying lap in the history of Formula One."
I guess race laps are the only ones that count as official fastest laps.
(Reposted for new page, originally by the magnificent Leunam)
Formula 1 comes to Italy where a sea of red in the stands will be yearning for a Ferrari victory. With the end of the season closing fast, drivers are desperate to get a result that will reign in Vettels lead. This may be the track to do it since this is a location that plays to the strengths of straight-line speeds with long, flat-out sections deep in the Italian forest.
2010 Race Summary
At the start of the race, Jenson Button had a fantastic start, jumping his McLaren from second past Fernando Alonso's Ferrari. Alonso, who was alongside with his team-mate Felipe Massa through the turn one chicane, just clipped the rear of Button's diffuser, but there was only light damage to the McLaren. As the pack headed down to the second chicane of turns three and four, Button's team-mate Lewis Hamilton, who was in fourth, tried to pull a move on Massa, but there was contact between the two. Although Lewis tried to carry on, the front track rod was broken and he pulled up at the next corner. Massa managed to carry on unscathed. Kamui Kobayashi did start the race but retired his BMW Sauber on the first lap with a gearbox failure.
Meanwhile, Mark Webber in the Red Bull was going backwards from his fourth place grid slot, and he was ninth at the end of the first lap. He soon re-passed Michael Schumacher's Mercedes at the second chicane on lap 6, with a calm and collected move on the seven times world champion. A hydraulic failure made Bruno Senna's HRT the race's third retirement on lap 11.
Alonso was harrying Button all the way, and drama occurred further back on lap 20 as Webber's team-mate Sebastian Vettel, who had also had a bad start, dropping from 6th to 7th and was harrying Nico Hülkenberg in the Williams to take the place back, complained of an engine issue in the Red Bull's Renault power unit. Webber sailed past and Vettel was just dropping back into the clutches of compatriot Schumacher when he suddenly regained power, and began to close in on Hülkenberg and Webber.
Button made his pit stop on lap 36, and by staying out for one lap longer Alonso was rejoin ahead of Button after his stop, although his team-mate Massa actually held 1st for two laps before his own pit-stop relegated him back to 3rd. It was very tight as Alonso exited the pits, but the Spaniard just managed to stay ahead by holding the racing line as the two were side-by-side through turns one and two. Jarno Trulli was the race's next retirement in the Lotus with a gearbox failure on lap 46.
After even more off track adventures for Hülkenberg, he was finally passed by Webber with just four laps to go, and the Aussie was visibly frustrated by then. On the same lap, Lucas di Grassi's Virgin suffered a suspension failure. After his phantom technical failure, the Red Bull mechanics had decided to leave Vettel's stop to the very last lap, which they did, and the gamble paid off handsomely as the German emerged from the pits still in fourth place, ahead of his team-mate.
Alonso crossed the line in first place to the delight of the Tifosi, with Button still less than three seconds in arrears. Massa was third to complete a fantastic double home podium for the Scuderia, while Vettel drove a brilliant recovery drive to bring the Red Bull home fourth, holding off a late challenge from Nico Rosberg, who had had a quiet race for Mercedes. Webber, Hülkenberg and Robert Kubica's Renault were all in close attendance, while Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello's Williams rounded out the points.
Circuit Info
[Click map for onboard lap]
Laps
Changes from 2010
-The length of kerbing has been altered to prevent cars leaping across them. There are no other major changes.
GP Facts
-Monza has hosted Formula One in several different circuit configurations. The fastest and most notorious was the layout used four times between 1955 and 1961, featuring steeply banked concrete curves, into which cars were compressed each lap, owing to the tremendous forces on their suspension. Growing safety concerns and a fatal accident to German Ferrari driver Wolfgang von Trips, on lap two of the 1961 race, after a collision on entry to a banked section, led to its use being discontinued for Formula One.
-Of 98 Italian drivers to have raced in Formula One, only 3 have won the Italian Grand Prix: Nino Farina in 1950; Alberto Ascari in 1951-52 and Ludovico Scarfiotti in 1966.
-Italian teams have, however, been rather more successful at Monza, taking a total of 22 wins since 1950. They are Ferrari (18); Maserati (2); Alfa Romeo (1); Toro Rosso (1). Alfa Romeo, in fact, won the very first Formula One Italian GP at Monza, with Nino Farina driving; last years race was won by Fernando Alonso for Ferrari.
-No Italian has won the Formula One World Championship since Alberto Ascari in 1953; the last Italian to win a Grand Prix was Giancarlo Fisichella, for Renault, in Malaysia, 2006.
-The main straight at Monza is the third longest in Formula One, at 1120m, just behind the back straight at Shanghai International Circuit (1170m) and Abu Dhabis Yas Marina (1140m). The circuits high-speed nature means that 83 percent of the lap is spent at full throttle the most of any 2011 circuit.
Videos Highlighting the Italian GP
Highlights from the 2009 Italian GP.
Brief highlights from 2008 Italian GP.
Previous Winners
Drivers Championship
Constructors Championship
Fantasy League Championship
Formula 1 comes to Italy where a sea of red in the stands will be yearning for a Ferrari victory. With the end of the season closing fast, drivers are desperate to get a result that will reign in Vettels lead. This may be the track to do it since this is a location that plays to the strengths of straight-line speeds with long, flat-out sections deep in the Italian forest.
2010 Race Summary
At the start of the race, Jenson Button had a fantastic start, jumping his McLaren from second past Fernando Alonso's Ferrari. Alonso, who was alongside with his team-mate Felipe Massa through the turn one chicane, just clipped the rear of Button's diffuser, but there was only light damage to the McLaren. As the pack headed down to the second chicane of turns three and four, Button's team-mate Lewis Hamilton, who was in fourth, tried to pull a move on Massa, but there was contact between the two. Although Lewis tried to carry on, the front track rod was broken and he pulled up at the next corner. Massa managed to carry on unscathed. Kamui Kobayashi did start the race but retired his BMW Sauber on the first lap with a gearbox failure.
Meanwhile, Mark Webber in the Red Bull was going backwards from his fourth place grid slot, and he was ninth at the end of the first lap. He soon re-passed Michael Schumacher's Mercedes at the second chicane on lap 6, with a calm and collected move on the seven times world champion. A hydraulic failure made Bruno Senna's HRT the race's third retirement on lap 11.
Alonso was harrying Button all the way, and drama occurred further back on lap 20 as Webber's team-mate Sebastian Vettel, who had also had a bad start, dropping from 6th to 7th and was harrying Nico Hülkenberg in the Williams to take the place back, complained of an engine issue in the Red Bull's Renault power unit. Webber sailed past and Vettel was just dropping back into the clutches of compatriot Schumacher when he suddenly regained power, and began to close in on Hülkenberg and Webber.
Button made his pit stop on lap 36, and by staying out for one lap longer Alonso was rejoin ahead of Button after his stop, although his team-mate Massa actually held 1st for two laps before his own pit-stop relegated him back to 3rd. It was very tight as Alonso exited the pits, but the Spaniard just managed to stay ahead by holding the racing line as the two were side-by-side through turns one and two. Jarno Trulli was the race's next retirement in the Lotus with a gearbox failure on lap 46.
After even more off track adventures for Hülkenberg, he was finally passed by Webber with just four laps to go, and the Aussie was visibly frustrated by then. On the same lap, Lucas di Grassi's Virgin suffered a suspension failure. After his phantom technical failure, the Red Bull mechanics had decided to leave Vettel's stop to the very last lap, which they did, and the gamble paid off handsomely as the German emerged from the pits still in fourth place, ahead of his team-mate.
Alonso crossed the line in first place to the delight of the Tifosi, with Button still less than three seconds in arrears. Massa was third to complete a fantastic double home podium for the Scuderia, while Vettel drove a brilliant recovery drive to bring the Red Bull home fourth, holding off a late challenge from Nico Rosberg, who had had a quiet race for Mercedes. Webber, Hülkenberg and Robert Kubica's Renault were all in close attendance, while Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello's Williams rounded out the points.
Circuit Info
[Click map for onboard lap]
Laps
53
Circuit length5.793 km (3.600 mi)
Race length306.720 km (190.596 mi)
Lap RecordRubens Barichello - Ferrari - 2004 - 1:21.046
Most Wins (Drivers)Michael Shumacher (5)
Most Wins (Constructors)Ferrari (19)
Changes from 2010
-The length of kerbing has been altered to prevent cars leaping across them. There are no other major changes.
GP Facts
-Monza has hosted Formula One in several different circuit configurations. The fastest and most notorious was the layout used four times between 1955 and 1961, featuring steeply banked concrete curves, into which cars were compressed each lap, owing to the tremendous forces on their suspension. Growing safety concerns and a fatal accident to German Ferrari driver Wolfgang von Trips, on lap two of the 1961 race, after a collision on entry to a banked section, led to its use being discontinued for Formula One.
-Of 98 Italian drivers to have raced in Formula One, only 3 have won the Italian Grand Prix: Nino Farina in 1950; Alberto Ascari in 1951-52 and Ludovico Scarfiotti in 1966.
-Italian teams have, however, been rather more successful at Monza, taking a total of 22 wins since 1950. They are Ferrari (18); Maserati (2); Alfa Romeo (1); Toro Rosso (1). Alfa Romeo, in fact, won the very first Formula One Italian GP at Monza, with Nino Farina driving; last years race was won by Fernando Alonso for Ferrari.
-No Italian has won the Formula One World Championship since Alberto Ascari in 1953; the last Italian to win a Grand Prix was Giancarlo Fisichella, for Renault, in Malaysia, 2006.
-The main straight at Monza is the third longest in Formula One, at 1120m, just behind the back straight at Shanghai International Circuit (1170m) and Abu Dhabis Yas Marina (1140m). The circuits high-speed nature means that 83 percent of the lap is spent at full throttle the most of any 2011 circuit.
Videos Highlighting the Italian GP
Highlights from the 2009 Italian GP.
Brief highlights from 2008 Italian GP.
Previous Winners
Drivers Championship
Constructors Championship
Fantasy League Championship
Leunam said:I know someone on here asked for pictures of the MP4/5B I'm working on. Keep in mind I'm no master model maker but I do put some effort into it.
Started with the engine. The cables will be painted black but they are bare metal for now since I cannibalized them from twist ties. The clear hose and connector will be redone to simulate a braided hose. I've still got more detail work to do so I'll post more pictures as I progress.
As before, if anyone has any reference pictures for the 1990 MP4/5B engine, cockpit or without the monocoque I'd be greatly appreciative. Now to work on the preview.
Cool, I got this in the mail this week:
I found these pics (from a model, not the real car), maybe they will help you: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74418
Sleeplessnights said:
Yep, just amazing. Thanks!
I got a big kick out of the post quali press conference when Button was talking about how they didn't have a chance and could have maybe got another 2 tenths and Vettel looked like he was trying his hardest to hold back the biggest grin. I don't blame him that lap was muy impressive.
The RB7 + Vettel = unstoppable but that Montoya lap that was posted makes me think of what the RB7 could be with that V10. Holy crap.
The thing about promoters maybe leaving F1 and talking to Indy Car is really dumb. Indy are running V8s that rev to a whopping 10,300 rpm right now and soon will be running V6's that will be either turbo or twin turbo charged that rev to 12,000 making between 550-700 horsepower for the track application. The 100 hp power boost will be so much better than the 10-20 hp push to pass crap. Also excited for Lotus and Chevrolet joining Honda in engine manufacturing.
Anyway, back to the superior F1 discussion. Here is some Monza speed.
Flybys before Parabolica
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kINuvP-Dxo
HD montage of all around good stuff with V8 pure sound from different points around the circuit. Best HD F1 Monza compilation I have found on Youtube. You can really get a sense of how fast these cars decelerate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7eiSi7nv0Y
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Expecting a fun race today.
Betta Lines
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Wow! That was awesomeTylerD said:
Sleeplessnights
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Let's just hope he gets a good start. Then we have a race!Shaneus said:
TylerD said:
Man that was amazing. The Ferrari's sound so deep off throttle.
Sleeplessnights
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TylerD said:
I stayed up too late yesterday too and had to go to Uni, If I sleep I'll miss the race too
Yes, while you're there, pick up some multivitamins just to make sure you're staying healthy. Maybe some milk too for a good dose of calcium.TylerD said:
Sleeplessnights
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TylerD said:
Yep same here, I've tried Monster before but that tasted like rubbish.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Renault sets mid-October deadline for Kubica's seat
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94469
It's been looking this way for a long time now, but this pretty much confirms he won't be back racing in F1 next year.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94469
It's been looking this way for a long time now, but this pretty much confirms he won't be back racing in F1 next year.
Sleeplessnights
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rogue_pigeon said:
He won't be racing for Renault, that's possible. There's a chance he will get a seat in Ferrari though.
brotkasten
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Yeah, no.Sleeplessnights said:
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Sleeplessnights said:
They'd have to leave it bloody late into the off-season before they'd know for sure if he's healthy enough, which would completely compromise their driver line-up (can't imagine Felipe would put up with that).
Ferrari are not going to risk that given the position they're currently in.
Foliorum Viridum
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Pile up on first corner today I reckon.
Hammy or Webber to win please!
Hammy or Webber to win please!
brotkasten
Member
My god, this is beautiful. I want that clip without the subtitles.
Diablohead
Member
Donkey in the field confirmed!
I think he'll manage a start this time, just because he is further back. One thing's for sure, if he doesn't blast the throttle off the line (The last 2 races he has under revved the engine and hit anti-stall), he needs a right slap.Dead Man said:
Anyway, I missed Qualifying as I was at Santa Pod, but Vettel being .5s ahead doesn't bode well. I hope Hamilton can get the jump on him off the line, that should mix it up a little at least.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Hello gentleman. The BBC F1 production are up there with Top Gear's team for producing these featurettes and intros.
brotkasten
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Awww, Lewis ... He just wants to finish this race. Good luck with that!
Sleeplessnights
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rogue_pigeon said:
You think Ferrari will still sign Massa with the results he's getting? I don't know, I kinda got the impression that they won't. Unless he doesn't want to do anything but work for Alonso.
brotkasten
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Massa already signed for 2012.Sleeplessnights said:
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