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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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Sleeplessnights
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Whoa, awesome picture. Thanks for sharing. 
Edmond Dantès
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I love hi-res F1 photos. Thanks.
Sleeplessnights
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Hey, we can race. I'll be getting it on the PS3 too!dubc35 said:Nice work! I'll be getting the game next week, maybe not on launch day though.....and on ps3, my pc won't be able to run it
Edmond Dantès said:True.
The F2004 was restrained because of the rule changes that came into effect that year. Plus, the F2002 won at Spa, something the F2004 failed to do.
The F2002 is my favourite. Forever. Forever.
It's just pure breed, excellence personified. Dominated the toughest era of F1 ever.
Sleeplessnights
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If the PS3 league happens It will involve a lot of people from the F1 thread. That's awesome!
Sleeplessnights
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I'll talk to FV.Lucius86 said:
Edit: You guys need to write your name down in the F1 OT if you didn't so already!
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Leunam said:
Williams already have a deal.
brotkasten
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I thought a manufacturer can only supply three teams?Leunam said:
fu3lfr3nzy
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Ark said:
So whats up with Cosworth? are their engines just not powerful/reliable enough or ?
Brilliant last word by Ted Kravitz: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1710651/9b070ca4/eddie_irvine_over_de_f1_van_tegenwoordig.html
Goldrusher
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Brilliant? More like incredibly sad. At least say it in his face.itsgreen said:
Ark said:
The 2014 regs will bring in a few more manufacturers I'd imagine. The small turbocharged V6s are far more road relevant than the current V8s even without all the hybrid technology, plus there is no point any new manufactures getting involved at the moment if the new regs are only a short time away.
rockman zx
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Kravitz is an idiot, not surprised about it but I'm also surprised that Irvine keep calling the DRS, the dropping wing or whatever......
Adam Scott Aukerman
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rockman zx said:
He was being facetious.
ANDY_098 said:
Yeah I meant until 2014. I'm pretty sure that Honda confirmed they want to come back into F1 as an engine supplier when the new regulations come in. McLaren also have said that they want to build their own engines, so it'll be interesting to pay attention to whether or not they sign up a new contract with Mercedes in the next couple of years.
Edmond Dantès
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Eddie's right, F1 is extremely artificial right now. It's downright farcical and goes against the very spirit of racing.itsgreen said:
Edmond Dantès said:
I can agree in terms of DRS, but otherwise I'm afraid I disagree.
Formula 1 is a representation of the times. The proof, is in the pudding.
I don't consider the Pirelli tyres when debating the actual racing, because they're a variable that could change at any time (otherwise it wouldn't be a variable, oh derp).
Edmond Dantès
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The F1 zeitgeist.Ark said:
Guess I'm just feeling nostalgic towards the other eras of F1, where wheel-to-wheel racing without ancillary aids was the norm.
Edmond Dantès said:The F1 zeitgeist.
Guess I'm just feeling nostalgic towards the other eras of F1, where wheel-to-wheel racing without ancillary aids was the norm.
Part of the reason we don't have that any more is a fault of the actual cars themselves.
We saw last year at Abu-Dhabi what happens when an F1 car is stuck in the dirty air of a slower car.
Edmond Dantès
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The double, triple deck diffuser ban has helped, but what would really increase the likelihood of overtaking and closer racing would be a dramatic reduction of aerodynamic reliance. Right now I'd say the ratio is 65% aero/35% drivetrain. To balance this out I'd reduce the front wing to greater degree than planned or get rid of it altogether (the sponsors wouldn't be particularly fond of that though) increase the rear tyre size and ban bargeboards altogether and introduce venturi tunnels.Ark said:
A modern era evolution of these designs would suffice.
I'd much rather have KERS and DRS as it is now than any of the last several years that I have watched or partially followed F1. From my limited memory it used to just be about qualifying then in maybe 1 or 2 corners you could out brake someone to pass. Other than that it was about pit stops. I'd rather watch aided racing than who can out pit the others.
Along the same lines I'm finally getting around to reading some old magazines I have had. I finished an old copy of Racecar Engineering on a flight earlier in the week. The end editorial suggested that DRS should be available at all times. I kind of agree. Maybe if they could reduce its impact a bit but it would make for some exciting racing. KERS is always available, why not DRS?
Hmm, I was going to post a scan of the page with the article but it doesn't look like that's allowed here per TOS.
Along the same lines I'm finally getting around to reading some old magazines I have had. I finished an old copy of Racecar Engineering on a flight earlier in the week. The end editorial suggested that DRS should be available at all times. I kind of agree. Maybe if they could reduce its impact a bit but it would make for some exciting racing. KERS is always available, why not DRS?
Hmm, I was going to post a scan of the page with the article but it doesn't look like that's allowed here per TOS.
PdotMichael
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It's a little bit lame, he waited and looked till Irvine is far enough away.
dubc35 said:I'd much rather have KERS and DRS as it is now than any of the last several years that I have watched or partially followed F1. From my limited memory it used to just be about qualifying then in maybe 1 or 2 corners you could out brake someone to pass. Other than that it was about pit stops. I'd rather watch aided racing than who can out pit the others.
Along the same lines I'm finally getting around to reading some old magazines I have had. I finished an old copy of Racecar Engineering on a flight earlier in the week. The end editorial suggested that DRS should be available at all times. I kind of agree. Maybe if they could reduce its impact a bit but it would make for some exciting racing. KERS is always available, why not DRS?
Hmm, I was going to post a scan of the page with the article but it doesn't look like that's allowed here per TOS.
I think I might have that magazine too, I'll see if I can upload it.
RomanticHeroX
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I hate DRS. I honestly see it as push-to-pass bullshit. Being able to defend your position is as valuable a skill as knowing how to overtake, and DRS just devalues both. Think back to the incredible finish to Imola 05, with DRS that would've been settled in a lap and Schumi would've cruised off into the distance. There's no valor in passing a car because you're suddenly able to go 20kph faster than he is.
Very valid points Romantic, but the fact is cars wouldn't be able to overtake otherwise. The way they're designed currently means they're stuck behind unless they make a brave, potentially dangerous move.
I'd like the rules to be reworked and agree with what was said earlier about it being less about the aerodynamics.
I'd like the rules to be reworked and agree with what was said earlier about it being less about the aerodynamics.
Templar Wizard
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its the modern argument should F1 cars be like Dragsters on the straights and have hugely reduced covering speed, or be generally fast everywhere.
each choice has its own limitations.
DRS puts a situational spin on it all. DRS needs to be continually tweaked to put the following car in a position where they can try and pass (ie negate the aero flow), not be a push to pass. we have had it this year where it SEEMED to be too easy and where it seemed to be perfect.
The FIA are still testing it out.
I believe it will be less PTP next year, once the FIA have more data.
each choice has its own limitations.
DRS puts a situational spin on it all. DRS needs to be continually tweaked to put the following car in a position where they can try and pass (ie negate the aero flow), not be a push to pass. we have had it this year where it SEEMED to be too easy and where it seemed to be perfect.
The FIA are still testing it out.
I believe it will be less PTP next year, once the FIA have more data.
SunhiLegend
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Can't wait for Singapore. Always exciting
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