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[AndyD]

Didnt they do this last year as well?

Two teams did it last year. And they tightened the rules somehow. I wonder what will happen, if anything.

And they can gather data while filming, they can just say, oops we need another take, and another and another, and do a bunch of straight runs.

 

[Dead Man]

Two teams did it last year. And they tightened the rules somehow. I wonder what will happen, if anything.

And they can gather data while filming, they can just say, oops we need another take, and another and another, and do a bunch of straight runs.

Yeah, I was not being devious enough in my thinking.

 

[operon]

started watching the 96 season, damn I loved those cars, was a Hill and a schumi fan

 

[DrM]

Two teams did it last year. And they tightened the rules somehow. I wonder what will happen, if anything.

Probably nothing, unless Ferrari founds 1 second with their upgrade. Other teams will also bring upgrades, some teams only marginal (RBR, Mclaren), others larger packs (Ferrari...)

 

[AndyD]

Probably nothing, unless Ferrari founds 1 second with their upgrade. Other teams will also bring upgrades, some teams only marginal (RBR, Mclaren), others larger packs (Ferrari...)

There is a difference in bringing updates, and bringing updates you have illegally tested. But I agree, it's likely nothing will happen.

 

[brotkasten]

Maybe it's just me, but I think restricting the tests for the teams that much is stupid.

 

[Dead Man]

Maybe it's just me, but I think restricting the tests for the teams that much is stupid.

Yeah, got ot agree there. As a cost saving measure it is a failure, and it makes it very hard for the smaller teams without dedicated wind tunnels to make any progress during the season.

 

[Zeona]

Yeah, got ot agree there. As a cost saving measure it is a failure, and it makes it very hard for the smaller teams without dedicated wind tunnels to make any progress during the season.

It's not just the small teams at the back of the field, it's practically everyone but the front row sitters. The whole field would get closer together and would produce more diverse starting grids and simply better racing. Just limit it to 20 test days, make it group test days with set dates and locations and watch those big gaps in performance shrink down.

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

Yeah, got ot agree there. As a cost saving measure it is a failure, and it makes it very hard for the smaller teams without dedicated wind tunnels to make any progress during the season.

They've been doing alright in comparison to the pre-restriction era, where Ferrari would run a car at their own test track all throughout the year, on top of utilising their extra technical resources.

 

[DrM]

Is special engine mapping the secret for RBR one lap monster pace?

McLaren seeks exhaust flow answers

Red Bull Racing's qualifying advantage could be helped by 'elaborate' engine mapping that helps make its blown diffuser more effective over a single lap.

That is the view of McLaren principal race engineer Phil Prew, who says his team is working hard on getting a grips as to why rivals Red Bull Racing have more of an advantage in qualifying than they do in a race.

"We are aiming to improve the performance of our car right the way through the range, in qualifying and in the race," said Prew, during a Vodafone McLaren Mercedes phone-in, about where he believes Red Bull's advantage lies.

"I think tyre optimisation may be one area, and the use of elaborate engine modes may be another - with the generation of downforce being quite highly influenced with the exhaust flows.

"There are many reasons why it may exist and we are aiming to improve our performance in qualifying and the race, and hopefully close in both areas."

F1 teams last year began experimenting with engine modes that pump more exhaust gases out - to help increase the airflow through a blown diffuser. This also included having gases flowing through the exhausts when drivers were off-throttle.

Red Bull Racing could be using a more extreme version of such engine mapping to dramatically increase exhaust flow in qualifying - but this would likely put a strain on its Renault power unit which could threaten reliability in the races.

Prew believes that McLaren is only a few tenths of a second behind Red Bull Racing in terms of out-and-out pace.

"I think that we are between three tenths and half a second off the pace of Red Bull, and obviously that is the gap that we are aiming to close," he said.

Autosport

 

[Keyser Soze]

News Corp to make a statement later regarding F1. Guy on Sky News says News Corp are teaming with an Italian company (Exor), whose boss (John Elkann) is the Chairman of FIAT, to buy a controlling stake in the company. FIAT owns a high % of Ferrari

 

[Dead Man]

They've been doing alright in comparison to the pre-restriction era, where Ferrari would run a car at their own test track all throughout the year, on top of utilising their extra technical resources.

I don't see what that has to do with the total ban now in place. Yes, Ferrari were dicks and did not comply with the voluntary ban. So?

Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to be so harsh, it's late here.

News Corp to make a statement later regarding F1. Guy on Sky News says News Corp are teaming with an Italian company, whose boss is the owner of FIAT, to buy a controlling stake in the company. FIAT owns a high % of Ferrari

Ugh, do not want.

 

[navanman]

News Corp to make a statement later regarding F1. Guy on Sky News says News Corp are teaming with an Italian company (Exor), whose boss (John Elkann) is the Chairman of FIAT, to buy a controlling stake in the company. FIAT owns a high % of Ferrari

I could so quote your avatar right now, if it were easier!

More of the story developing now. Looks like News Corp (Sky) and Exor are planning to buy the F1 rights together as a consortium.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

started watching the 96 season, damn I loved those cars, was a Hill and a schumi fan

You're in for a treat when you get to the Spanish GP.

 

[skynet]

News Corp to make a statement later regarding F1. Guy on Sky News says News Corp are teaming with an Italian company (Exor), whose boss (John Elkann) is the Chairman of FIAT, to buy a controlling stake in the company. FIAT owns a high % of Ferrari

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This would be horrible

 

[Deadman]

Would be interesting to see how all the other teams would react to ferrari owning/co owning the sport.

Although not interesting enough for me to want this deal to happen.

 

[DrM]

I could so quote your avatar right now, if it were easier!

More of the story developing now. Looks like News Corp (Sky) and Exor are planning to buy the F1 rights together as a consortium.

Bernie will not allow this And this consortium stuff is in early stages.

Check diagram on Jon Saward blog, what a mess Also it will be interesting to see how will Jean Todt stand in this.

 

[navanman]

Todt holds a veto on this possible bid by Exor (FIAT) & News Corp.

Talk about a conflict of interest!

On with the conspiracy threory, I wouldn't put it past Bernie to push the 2 companies to bid for the rights.
He hates that the CVC Group owns F1..

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

I don't see what that has to do with the total ban now in place. Yes, Ferrari were dicks and did not comply with the voluntary ban. So?

Bigger teams can make bigger strides through testing, thanks to their greater resources, so the current restrictions actually gives the smaller teams a chance of competing with better established teams if they get it right over the winter. With unlimited testing, or even an increased testing allowance, the likelihood is the gap between the fastest teams and the slowest teams is going to widen, not narrow.

It also means that the smaller teams are forced into spending much more money on car development just to keep up with the larger teams, making it even harder for the smaller teams to survive financially.

 

[navanman]

F1racemanager bonus question is up.

Seems to be 2 correct answers to me?

 

[Ark]

F1racemanager bonus question is up.

Seems to be 2 correct answers to me?

Red Bull have never won Turkey is the answer.

 

[Deadman]

Red bull never won seems to be the right one.

What did you see as the 2nd correct one, Johan tilke? f1 tilke is called Herman.

 

[DD]

A little help for you guys: http://www.gpguide.com/


BTW, Autosprint magazine reported that Ferrari is in conversation with Rosberg to replace Massa, who would turn to Red Bull to replace Mark Webber.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

A little help for you guys: http://www.gpguide.com/


BTW, Autosprint magazine reported that Ferrari is in conversation with Rosberg to replace Massa, who would turn to Red Bull to replace Mark Webber.

I don't think Rosberg would want to play second fiddle to Alonso and Massa to Red Bull seems like wishful thinking from Massa's camp.

 

[mclaren777]

Ferrari is beeing accused of testing new components in the F150th during the filming of a promotional video. They were using a different diffuser and a new suspension.

This is ilegal.

It is illegal, but Ferrari rarely gets in trouble for breaking the rules so I don't expect anything to come of this.

 

[mclaren777]

DRS will activate just as they're turning into a high speed corner. I sure hope the FIA knows what it's doing.

 

[h3ro]

It is illegal, but Ferrari rarely gets in trouble for breaking the rules so I don't expect anything to come of this.

Let's not pretend they're the only team doing this either though.

That DRS activation zone is really going to benefit teams with great aero packages and grip as they'll be able to pull back lots of time through turn 8 before reaching the activation zone.

 

[DD]

I don't think Rosberg would want to play second fiddle to Alonso and Massa to Red Bull seems like wishful thinking from Massa's camp.

Well, I really doubt that Webber will be in Red Bull in the next seasons, and Massa is experienced, fast and the type on nice guy who would neve bother the team like Webber usually do. But I don't know, it's just a rumor from a magazine... =P

It is illegal, but Ferrari rarely gets in trouble for breaking the rules so I don't expect anything to come of this.

Ferrari Internetional Assistance FTW.




About the turn in the DRS zone, I think it's fine. Maybe it will increase de tyre wear...

 

[AcridMeat]

Kobayashi to Ferrari, doesn't complain about being 2nd, outdoes Alonso, hissy-fit ensues.

Not sure who would take Red Bull #2. Massa seems like an okay choice.

 

[RomanticHeroX]

Kobayashi to Ferrari, doesn't complain about being 2nd, outdoes Alonso, hissy-fit ensues.

Not sure who would take Red Bull #2. Massa seems like an okay choice.

Raikkonen to replace Webber, NASCAR thing never happens.

Please

 

[AcridMeat]

Raikkonen to replace Webber, NASCAR thing never happens.

Please

I've given up hope on Kimi F1. He's done with the sport/politics.

 

[Shaneus]

Webber returns to Williams after hiring new technical director, kicks RBRs arse.

That's provided RBR don't keep Webber. After his last performance you can't say they're definitely canning him next year.

 

[DrM]

Rosberg will probably stay at Mercedes, because when The Old One finally retires, he will be the lead driver. Second driver will probably be Hulkenberg / Di Resta (Norbert Haug is very impressed with him) / some other guy

 

[Dead Man]

Webber returns to Williams after hiring new technical director, kicks RBRs arse.

That's provided RBR don't keep Webber. After his last performance you can't say they're definitely canning him next year.

That would be so awesome. Never happen though. Webber may not be at RBR next year, but I can't see Massa getting the seat. Maybe they do want someone who can play second driver though, I wouldn't be surprised I guess.

 

[brotkasten]

Kobayashi to Ferrari, doesn't complain about being 2nd, outdoes Alonso, hissy-fit ensues.

Not sure who would take Red Bull #2. Massa seems like an okay choice.

Kobayashi instead of Massa would be so awesome. I'd love to see that. Massa could go to Sauber. Nobody would miss him and people would very quickly forget that he's still driving in F1. Kinda like Rubens.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Kobayashi instead of Massa would be so awesome. I'd love to see that. Massa could go to Sauber. Nobody would miss him and people would very quickly forget that he's still driving in F1. Kinda like Rubens.

Harsh, but ultimately true I'm afraid.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I really hope Kobayashi gets a go in a top tier team. I know that his car is getting quicker, but I would love to see him at the front of the grid constantly.

 

[Deadman]

Ferrari: Alonso, Kubica
McLaren: Hamilton, Kobayashi
Red Bull: Vettel, Raikkonen.

It would be perfect.

 

[S. L.]

i'd rather see him at RBR than Ferrari. Currently it looks like Webber won't get a new contract and Kobayashi seems pretty marketable for RB unlike Webber
Unless they want to promote Buemi or Algues, but while both are fairly solid, eeeh

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Ferrari: Alonso, Kubica
McLaren: Hamilton, Kobayashi
Red Bull: Vettel, Raikkonen.

It would be perfect.

I'm afraid that none of those have a realistic chance of happening.

Button will most probably end his career at McLaren in a few years time and Kobayashi will have signed for someone else by then. Raikkonen will never set foot in a competitive F1 ever again (I hope I'm wrong). As for Kubica, well... no one really knows whether he'll make the extraordinary comeback that we all want him to make.

I see Perez being groomed for the second seat at Ferrari, Kobayashi ending up at Renault and Di Resta eventually replacing Michael at Mercedes.

 

[operon]

You're in for a treat when you get to the Spanish GP.

Looking forward to it, its been a while so I certainly don't remember winners of individual races, strange remembering when they had spare cars etc etc. Did they have more money those days, with mid teams like Jordan having car, I couldn't see to many teams from the middle down being able to do that now obviously withstanding the fact that the design etc etc more advanced

 

[mclaren777]

I'm really excited for the 2011 GP2 season to begin!

 

[navanman]

Looks great. Dallara have done a good job designing the 2011 spec car to be very similar to current F1 cars.

 

[mclaren777]

I'm disappointed that Alexander Rossi won't be competing in GP2 this year so Sam Bird will be who I support.

 

[Massa]

Magazines have been replacing Massa's seat at Ferrari for about 5 years now.

 

[DD]

Magazines have been replacing Massa's seat at Ferrari for about 5 years now.

True. LOL

Looks great. Dallara have done a good job designing the 2011 spec car to be very similar to current F1 cars.

It's probably based in the 2010 Hispania's.

 

[Deadman]

I'm afraid that none of those have a realistic chance of happening.

Button will most probably end his career at McLaren in a few years time and Kobayashi will have signed for someone else by then. Raikkonen will never set foot in a competitive F1 ever again (I hope I'm wrong). As for Kubica, well... no one really knows whether he'll make the extraordinary comeback that we all want him to make.

I see Perez being groomed for the second seat at Ferrari, Kobayashi ending up at Renault and Di Resta eventually replacing Michael at Mercedes.

Oh yeah it will never happen, id just love it.


I do think that kobayashi could end up at renault or even red bull. They have the infiniti sponsorship now which is of course a japanese company so there could be some deal with getting kobayashi in one of the cars they sponsor, like how santander follow alonso around.

 

[mrklaw]

currently have my engine/chassis split Toro rosso/Renault. Any point upgrading them just now, or should I start upping my drivers who are a bit crap?

 

[AcridMeat]

I suppose Kobayashi at Ferrari is a bit of a fever dream. Now that you mention Perez that does sound more likely.

There are too many drivers I want to see in competitive cars. We'll have to see how Kubica performs when he comes back, because pre-accident he was going to be a #1 wherever he went.

 

[AndyD]

currently have my engine/chassis split Toro rosso/Renault. Any point upgrading them just now, or should I start upping my drivers who are a bit crap?

I think I may save my money this round and do a nice upgrade next time around. I am half a mil short of a good move, so I will save rather than jump on something that is slight.

I think FI/Ren is a better bet though. I think FI has been earning more points on average.