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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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wonderkins

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mclaren777 said:
I'm really excited for the 2011 GP2 season to begin!

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So much this. Speed's broadcasting the series again. With F1, Indy, and GP2 (and DTM, and Aus V8...) all on tv, Yay!

Whatever seat allows Kamui to engage Lewis is a-ok. As two of the most aggressive passers in F1, it'd be a great 'fight' to watch.

[QUOTE=AcridMeat]There are too many drivers I want to see in competitive cars. We'll have to see how Kubica performs when he comes back, because pre-accident he was going to be a #1 wherever he went.[/QUOTE]
This is the agony of watching the current field. This is an era of supremely talented drivers. Kubica :bow. I'd also like to see Mercedes give Nico a proper car. Hopefully the latest updates are as competitive as they're claiming. Also, FI should shove Sutil out and take a chance on Hulk and di Resta. Take a risk; it's F1.
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TylerD

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I am going to miss not watching the Turkish GP with the normal Steam guys of F1 Gaf. Going to Memphis for the weekend for the Thunder game.
 
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Igo

Member
brotkasten said:
Thank you so much! Just read the first chapter and it looks really good. :)
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Unless you read Japanese you should just watch the anime. The manga is ongoing no one is consistently scanlating it.
 
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brotkasten

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Igo said:
Unless you read Japanese you should just watch the anime. The manga is ongoing no one is consistently scanlating it.
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Yeah, I noticed that a day later. :lol Pretty sad considering that volume 24 is already available in Japan, but I'll definitely watch the anime.
 
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SCHUEY F1

Unconfirmed Member
wonderkins said:
So much this. Speed's broadcasting the series again. With F1, Indy, and GP2 (and DTM, and Aus V8...) all on tv, Yay!

Whatever seat allows Kamui to engage Lewis is a-ok. As two of the most aggressive passers in F1, it'd be a great 'fight' to watch.


This is the agony of watching the current field. This is an era of supremely talented drivers. Kubica :bow. I'd also like to see Mercedes give Nico a proper car. Hopefully the latest updates are as competitive as they're claiming. Also, FI should shove Sutil out and take a chance on Hulk and di Resta. Take a risk; it's F1.
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Speed is pretty good for broadcasting those other series. I really wish they still had the WRC though...I miss being able to watch WRC.
 
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RomanticHeroX

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It's been sad to watch Speed's sad descent over the past ten years or so but to their credit the F1 coverage has only gotten better and better. They don't give many concessions to the non-NASCAR crowd but clearly someone at Speed has a love for F1.
 
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Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
RomanticHeroX said:
It's been sad to watch Speed's sad descent over the past ten years or so but to their credit the F1 coverage has only gotten better and better. They don't give many concessions to the non-NASCAR crowd but clearly someone at Speed has a love for F1.
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How does Speed's coverage of F1 compare to the BBC's?
 
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a176

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TylerD said:
I am going to miss not watching the Turkish GP with the normal Steam guys of F1 Gaf. Going to Memphis for the weekend for the Thunder game.
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i think that game will be a bit more exciting than the turkey gp
 
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RomanticHeroX

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I really enjoy Speed's coverage. I've only watched a few races on the BBC so I'm not terribly familiar with them but I'd say they're very comparable. Speed broadcasts Friday Practice 2, Qualifying and the race live, in addition to a pit walk before the race and post-race interviews. They also stream Practice 1 and 2 online and have wrapups for each day of the GP as well as after the race. There's also a feature online called Chalk Talk where one of the announcers go in depth on various technical aspects of the cars and the sport. Being on a commercial channel of course it's not commercial free like the BBC but they're really good about holding back breaks if something important is happening and usually broadcast the last 10-15 laps without break.

The Speed commentary team is why I'm such a fan. Their main commentators are Bob Varsha, David Hobbs and Steve Matchett, with occasional comments from Peter Windsor. Hobbs raced in nearly every discipline of motor sport in the 60s and 70s and brings great insight from the driver's perspective. Matchett was a mechanic with Benneton during the 90s and and is extremely knowledgeable about the cars and the regulations of the sport. Between them there's a high level of familiarity with all aspects of the sport so they're very quick to pick up on trends during a race and throughout the season. Those three have also been working together for years and as a result the commentary is very natural and relaxed. Brundle and Coulthard also provide great commentary, but personally I prefer Speed.
 
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Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
RomanticHeroX said:
I really enjoy Speed's coverage. I've only watched a few races on the BBC so I'm not terribly familiar with them but I'd say they're very comparable. Speed broadcasts Friday Practice 2, Qualifying and the race live, in addition to a pit walk before the race and post-race interviews. They also stream Practice 1 and 2 online and have wrapups for each day of the GP as well as after the race. There's also a feature online called Chalk Talk where one of the announcers go in depth on various technical aspects of the cars and the sport. Being on a commercial channel of course it's not commercial free like the BBC but they're really good about holding back breaks if something important is happening and usually broadcast the last 10-15 laps without break.

The Speed commentary team is why I'm such a fan. Their main commentators are Bob Varsha, David Hobbs and Steve Matchett, with occasional comments from Peter Windsor. Hobbs raced in nearly every discipline of motor sport in the 60s and 70s and brings great insight from the driver's perspective. Matchett was a mechanic with Benneton during the 90s and and is extremely knowledgeable about the cars and the regulations of the sport. Between them there's a high level of familiarity with all aspects of the sport so they're very quick to pick up on trends during a race and throughout the season. Those three have also been working together for years and as a result the commentary is very natural and relaxed. Brundle and Coulthard also provide great commentary, but personally I prefer Speed.
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Thanks for the insight.
 
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NihonTiger90

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RomanticHeroX said:
I really enjoy Speed's coverage. I've only watched a few races on the BBC so I'm not terribly familiar with them but I'd say they're very comparable. Speed broadcasts Friday Practice 2, Qualifying and the race live, in addition to a pit walk before the race and post-race interviews. They also stream Practice 1 and 2 online and have wrapups for each day of the GP as well as after the race. There's also a feature online called Chalk Talk where one of the announcers go in depth on various technical aspects of the cars and the sport. Being on a commercial channel of course it's not commercial free like the BBC but they're really good about holding back breaks if something important is happening and usually broadcast the last 10-15 laps without break.

The Speed commentary team is why I'm such a fan. Their main commentators are Bob Varsha, David Hobbs and Steve Matchett, with occasional comments from Peter Windsor. Hobbs raced in nearly every discipline of motor sport in the 60s and 70s and brings great insight from the driver's perspective. Matchett was a mechanic with Benneton during the 90s and and is extremely knowledgeable about the cars and the regulations of the sport. Between them there's a high level of familiarity with all aspects of the sport so they're very quick to pick up on trends during a race and throughout the season. Those three have also been working together for years and as a result the commentary is very natural and relaxed. Brundle and Coulthard also provide great commentary, but personally I prefer Speed.
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Pretty much this. Also, Varsha's been the voice of F1 in the U.S. for God knows how long. At least since 1993.

The only thing they could do better is a better intro.
 
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AcridMeat

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If I had a choice I'd take BBC. While I agree with the points that Speed's presentation is good, I prefer the commentating on BBC.

My only options for a weekend is to either stay up for a stream of BBC or watch it on Speed at a friend's place if the broadcast is at a good time, so I've watched a lot more races since 09 with Speed's coverage.
 
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DrM

Redmond's Baby
Daniel Dantas said:
Thank God the brazilian transmission has no commercial breaks.
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Here, biggest commerical TV station had F1 rights for several years and we rather watched races on Austrian or Croatian TV. Why? So many commerical blocks (every 10 minutes) that it wasn't funny anymore.

This year, national TV snatched rights and we have maybe 1 minute of commercials during the race (three 20 seconds long commercial blocks)
 
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Chris R

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RomanticHeroX said:
The Speed commentary team is why I'm such a fan. Their main commentators are Bob Varsha, David Hobbs and Steve Matchett, with occasional comments from Peter Windsor.
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Windsor hasn't been with Speed since he broke away to start USF1 a few years back. (insert :lol here :( ) They have Will Buxton now in the pitlane at every race. Speed coverage is great considering, and it is always improving (we now get live streaming of FP1/FP3 and get qualifying live vs having it on delay). Yes commercials suck, but not being able to watch races at all would suck more.
 
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RomanticHeroX

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Oh right, I forgot USGP was kind of a thing. It goes to show how much I valued his commentary that it took me over a year to notice he's missing.
 
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navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Looks like former BAR head is looking to return to F1 as an engine supplier,partner for the 2013 season.
His company PURE is developing a 1.6 turbo engine for the new engine regulations in 2013.

Former BAR team principal Craig Pollock is to return to Formula 1 in 2013 as the head of a new customer engine supply company.

Pollock has launched PURE, which stands for Propulsion Universelle et Recuperation d'Energie, to provide teams with power-units that comply with the new 1.6-litre four-cylinder turbo engine regulations that come into force that year.

A team of management and technical partners have been recruited for the project - including former Renault F1 managing director Christian Contzen and aerospace expert Robin Southwell.

PURE has contracted TEOS Powertrain Engineering - which is half-owned by Mecachrome and half by IFP Energies Nouvelles - to help design and produce the engines.

Speaking about the plans, Pollock said: "The vision for PURE is to be a leader in the development of the next generation power train technology which must respond to the demands for a cleaner environment.

"The 2013 F1 power train regulation changes offer PURE an immediate platform to field test and validate future technologies for implementation in other industries."

Pollock believes that the unique nature of PURE's make-up will allow it to provide competitive engines at a lower price than other suppliers when it enters the sport.

"The reality is that if you have 400-450 employees such as Mercedes have or 300 in the case of Renault - then your overheads are extremely high," he told AUTOSPORT in an exclusive interview.

"The way that we are doing this and the reason that we can spend a little bit less money than the manufacturers is that we put together the engineers, engineering group and the areas of expertise more in an industrial sense.

"Mecachrome will be putting together, manufacturing and constructing the engines - fabricating them. The development is being done by TEOS, IFP and D2T. So we are a very tight team, and being tight means that our costs are an awful lot lower - and that means we should be able to carry over this cost reduction to teams and give them a cost-effective power train."

PURE's engine design is being led by Jean-Pierre Boudy, who worked on Renault's first prototype turbo-charged racing engine in the 1970s and was responsible for Peugeot's F1 engines in the '90s. Pollock added that all the personnel on the project have F1 or Le Mans experience.

"I understand how hard the market it is, but the reality is that the group of people that we have behind the project, and the group of companies behind it too, are not just start-ups," said Pollock.

"This is a brand new engine designed by a company which is half-owned by Mecachrome, so it is not just coming in without any expertise. The expertise to build F1 engines is there. Also the design group has been working in F1 and Le Mans with Peugeot for a long time. They know what they are doing and F1 people know that.

"There is a large-scale sized team of people, but the main designer at the moment - the person driving it forwards - is Boudy. He is ex-Renault and Peugeot and designed all the four-cylinder turbo-charged engines for Renault."

Pollock said that while the PURE corporation's head office is in Switzerland, the core engineering aspects of the project will be in France where the engine will be developed.

Pollock expects to be present in the Spanish Grand Prix paddock at Barcelona and says PURE has already received the support of both Jean Todt and Bernie Ecclestone: "At the moment we are convinced, as is [FIA president] Jean Todt, as is Bernie Ecclestone, that there is a great need for an independent supplier coming in with a long-term vision.

"And also which has a vision of green technology - we could use the sport as a test bed to derive these technologies and take them in to other fields.

"Todt has been informed and is very supportive, Bernie is fully aware and also supportive – so I will now be participating in the engine meetings. When there is a power train meeting at a grand prix, or whether I will be meeting up with teams to discuss potential contracts in the future – I will be around and about."

Todt, who has pushed hard for the new more fuel-efficient engine formula to be introduced in 2013, said of the project: "We welcome PURE to Formula 1. The rule changes for 2013 have been developed to provide lower cost, greener and more fuel efficient technologies for Formula 1. We wish PURE every success in developing power trains compliant with the new FIA regulations."
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Autosport
 
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Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
navanman said:
Looks like former BAR head is looking to return to F1 as an engine supplier,partner for the 2013 season.
His company PURE is developing a 1.6 turbo engine for the new engine regulations in 2013.


Autosport
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I wonder if McLaren will have their own engines by then or whether they'll stick with Mercedes until until 2015.
 
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PjotrStroganov

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Daniel Dantas said:
Thank God the brazilian transmission has no commercial breaks.
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RTL7, which is commercial does, have breaks but luckily they are the screen in screen kind of type. Still anoying though.

Thank god we have bbc though!
 
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Foliorum Viridum

Banned
Adverts during F1 on ITV used to kill me on the inside. Here comes a close battle... WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

Two minutes later...

HERE'S THE AMAZING OVERTAKING YOU MISSED!

Brilliant. Cheers. If F1 ever leaves the BBC, I'm probably done with it. I love the lack of adverts and their features/commentary/pre and post-race features too much. It wouldn't be the same without that now.
 
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Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Foliorum Viridum said:
Adverts during F1 on ITV used to kill me on the inside. Here comes a close battle... WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

Two minutes later...

HERE'S THE AMAZING OVERTAKING YOU MISSED!

Brilliant. Cheers. If F1 ever leaves the BBC, I'm probably done with it. I love the lack of adverts and their features/commentary/pre and post-race features too much. It wouldn't be the same without that now.
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This famous battle between Schumacher and Alonso was spoiled because of ITV F1's incompetence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK2uV9ApLts&feature=related
 
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DD

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The ads in TV Globo (the biggest comercial station here) during the races are diferent. It is displayed in the form of a 3D sticker on the top left of the screen. The audio is interrupted to mention the sponsors. It happens very quickly and only a few times during the race. The real commercials are actually displayed after the race, while the drivers are leaving the track and go to the podium.

They don't show the free practices. Only the quali and the races.

The narrator is Galvão Bueno, and commentators are Reginaldo Leme, a journalist of F1 since the late 70s or early 80s (they work togheter for a loooong time), with the support of Luciano Burti, a former F1 driver that worked in Jaguar and as a test driver for Ferrari. He is currently driving in the brazilian Stock Car series.

Even with such experience, Galvão still talks a lot of bullshit. LOL But Burti compensates it. xD

I guess I can't complain. :)
 
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Psychotext

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brotkasten said:
Yeah, I noticed that a day later. :lol Pretty sad considering that volume 24 is already available in Japan, but I'll definitely watch the anime.
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I just started watching it thanks to the posts here. It's really quite good. :)
 
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DrM

Redmond's Baby
Daniel Dantas said:
I guess I can't complain. :)
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We have all free practice online on national TV site, by only for our country IPs
Commentator is Miran Ališič (good friend of Bernie, so RTV got F1 license cheaper), who is well known for:
- his screaming (UUUUuuuuuuUUUUUUUUu)* when something is happening on track.
- he loves rain (Rain! Rain! Wohoooo)
- drivers pour gasoline after the race and not champagne
- he can be heard on other TV stations (clearly in the background)
- his style in commentator box is very special
- etc etc :D

Translation:
* : Kovalainen leaving the pit...UUUUUUUU, LOOK, FIREEEEE, start-finish line is on fire
U....UUUUUUUUUUUUU.... LOOK, Kazuki Nakajima is FLYING
 
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DD

Member
DrM said:
We have all free practice online on national TV site, by only for our country IPs
Commentator is Miran Ališič (good friend of Bernie, so RTV got F1 license cheaper), who is well know for:
- his screaming (UUUUuuuuuuUUUUUUUUu)* when something is happening on track.
- he loves rain (Rain! Rain! Wohoooo)
- drivers pour gasoline after the race and not champagne
- he can be heard on other TV stations (clearly in the background)
- his style in commentator box is very special
- etc etc :D

Translation:
* : Kovalainen leaving the pit...UUUUUUUU, LOOK, FIREEEEE, start-finish line is on fire
U....UUUUUUUUUUUUU.... LOOK, Kazuki Nakajima is FLYING
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Oh my...
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mclaren777

mclaren777

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Edmond Dantès said:
I wonder if McLaren will have their own engines by then or whether they'll stick with Mercedes until until 2015.
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Has Mclaren stated that they want to manufacture their own engines?
 
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Ark

Member
mclaren777 said:
Has Mclaren stated that they want to manufacture their own engines?
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They've been saying it for quite some time. I'm sure I remember reading that the MP4-12C engine is the best in the world? Feel free to correct me.

I'd suspect that McLaren will stick with Mercedes until the deal is over, the McLaren <-> Mercedes partnership is a long one, I doubt they'd cut it short.
 
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AndyD

aka andydumi
Ark said:
They've been saying it for quite some time. I'm sure I remember reading that the MP4-12C engine is the best in the world? Feel free to correct me.

I'd suspect that McLaren will stick with Mercedes until the deal is over, the McLaren <-> Mercedes partnership is a long one, I doubt they'd cut it short.
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Right. They could totally make their own engines, and even supply to other entry level teams, there's a cash cow in that from what I read.
 
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wonderkins

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rhfb said:
Windsor hasn't been with Speed since he broke away to start USF1 a few years back. (insert :lol here :( ) They have Will Buxton now in the pitlane at every race. Speed coverage is great considering, and it is always improving (we now get live streaming of FP1/FP3 and get qualifying live vs having it on delay). Yes commercials suck, but not being able to watch races at all would suck more.
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The single benefit I miss from Windsor is that he, through his term with Williams, etc., had access to all of the grid. Buxton's a good guy, but you notice the conspicuous lack of grid access; though, it's great that he has relationships with Rosberg, Webber, and Vitaly (and sometimes snags Felipe). Lewis, Fernando, Schumi...well, the BBC (Brundle) gets access; especially Lewis. This is one reason why the Austin GP is important; it'll get the top drivers' handlers to grant more access to Speed (well I guess more correctly it'll air on Fox). Can't say enough good things about the current producers and management of Speed related to F1. They're always striving to improve the show on a network where the dollars favor Nascar (which is sensical given the popularity here). Plus, Hobbs. I love that ol'coot. Varsha's great at keeping it moving. Matchet, I like until he resorts to quoting 'the sporting regs, boys!' It's as if he has a sixth sense for quoting that arcane drivel just as something more interesting is happening. Still, he's great for the tech stuff. Love that.

Speaking of Turkey and Vettel:

jamesallenonf1.com said:
[Vettel] was also asked what was his memory of last year’s race. “A blank” he said, with that sardonic smile on his lips.
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lol. Some people may not cheer for Vettel; but c'mon, you have to like the guy for his attitude. Schumi's talent, but with unrestrained enthusiasm and good humor. C'mon.
 
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Ark

Member
wonderkins said:
lol. Some people may not cheer for Vettel; but c'mon, you have to like the guy for his attitude. Schumi's talent, but with unrestrained enthusiasm and good humor. C'mon.
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For his attitude? You mean the attitude where he refused to take any blame whatsoever for him turning into Webber last year?
 
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h3ro

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COME ON BOYS COME ON

THAS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

YES BOYS WE DID WHAT WE DID AND WE ARE WHAT WE THINK WE ARE

*finger*



gag.
 
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Psychotext

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I'd be awful on the radio after the race.

"FUCK YES"
"BRING ON THE HOOKERS, I'M GOING SHOULDER DEEP IN CELEBRATION"
"WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"
 
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Leunam

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Mark Webber, the Saucy Aussie.

Q: Mark, there’s been a lot of talk about your future. Would you say that red would suit you?
Mark Webber: I always look good in red. But Red Bull is what I associate all my success with, so the only red is in Red Bull, as when I wear Red Bull colours I think of success. Any other red is just a colour in the fashion business.
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Ark

Member
Edmond Dantès said:
Exactly, just like the young Schumacher, what's not to like? :p
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Ah yes, but Schumacher is a legend :p

If I'm going to be truthful, I think Vettel overrates himself somewhat. Hence the cringe worthy speeches over the radio after his wins in Oz & Malaysia this year.

Shaneus said:
Didn't realise that was on the official F1 site. That "red" question seems to be a bit risque for them, doesn't it?
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F1.com asks questions like that all the time, why shouldn't they? They're just journo interviews like all the other ones.

Psychotext said:
I'd be awful on the radio after the race.

"FUCK YES"
"BRING ON THE HOOKERS, I'M GOING SHOULDER DEEP IN CELEBRATION"
"WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"
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I always like to imagine I'd be singing or speaking random shit (because I LOVE speaking random shit) throughout the entire race.

I'd throw my hand up at anyone that I would overtake, instead of Vettel's finger, I'd use my pinky.
 
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