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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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Ark

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f0rk said:
Doing promotional talks with the PM on safe driving.

Hamilton can't even stop when there's a stationary car with a red light on at the end of the pitlane.

Button doesn't know where to park.

Hmmm....:p
 

itsgreen

Member
Ark said:
Hamilton can't even stop when there's a stationary car with a red light on at the end of the pitlane.

Button doesn't know where to park.

Hmmm....:p

They can drive side by side at 200mph without hitting each other... there are drivers within certain teams who couldn't do that ;)
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Full statement:
After the race in China I attended an event as a private person. At this event I did an unfortunate thing and completely unintentionally injured another person. I deeply regret the incident and apologized accordingly

Expect him to get the sack and Hulkenberg to get his seat.
 

Lucius86

Banned
navanman said:
Full statement:


Expect him to get the sack and Hulkenberg to get his seat.

Is this a real possibility?


AcridMeat said:
We're going to band together to form the anti-Lucius train.

Updated avatar for F1-GAF

Ha, I look forward to it.

Loving the avatar. GAF CHAMP APPROVED.
 

moojito

Member
I doubt it. Force india and renault aren't related in any way, afaik. Maybe team orders to try and kill competing team bosses?

Adrian Newey to 'fall down the stairs' at Barcelona!
 

a176

Banned
A badly placed DRS zone and complete lack of competition for Vettel made the turkey GP pretty disappointing.

Still, I love the track and hope it stays in F1
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
"422race.com is now able to reveal the details of the event: the person involved in the brawl with the Force India driver is Eric Lux, the number two of Genii Capital, an investment fund that owns the Lotus team Renault GP and the right arm of team president Gerard Lopez. Observers have noted in the paddock several wounds on the throat of Lux at the last weekend in Istanbul and a team spokesman confirmed the incident.

"I can confirm that on the evening of Sunday after the Grand Prix there was an incident involving Eric Lux, Capital of the Genii," he told 422race.com. "Lotus Renault GP, however, not in a position to make any comment because it is a private matter between Eric and the other person. " And the other person to whom the spokesperson refers to, but being very careful not to name it, it's Adrian Sutil.

The brawl happened at the club M1NT Sunday night. Some people have noticed this in a hurry Lux make their way through the crowd coming out of a private with his neck bleeding and frightened expression. Seconds later, Lewis Hamilton emerged from the same small room, surrounded by his bodyguards. Our sources have not been able to confirm if his friend Adrian Sutil was with him but after a few seconds, entering the same VIP room, there was no sign of him.

Nothing is known about the reasons for the punch, even if Sutil would have run away from China shortly after to avoid legal problems in this regard. An official spokesman for the FIA, however, confirmed to 422race.com that the Federation is investigating the matter and that no action will be taken on in respect of Sutil. A substantial "no comment" even by the Force India, who have declared our microphones through a spokesman: "It 's a private matter between the parties involved and we have no information on it, so we do not intend to make any comment."

I had heard Hamilton might be mixed up in this too!

Lewis Hamilton had to be escorted from a nightclub after a brawl involving Adrian Sutil, the Force India driver, and a senior official of the Lotus Renault team.

The 2008 world champion was at Downing Street for a photoshoot with David Cameron, the Prime Minister, on Wednesday afternoon as details emerged of an alleged confrontation between the usually mild-mannered Sutil, one of Hamilton’s best friends in Formula One, and Eric Lux, chief executive of Genii Capital, which owns the Lotus Renault squad.

It is understood the fight broke out in the MINT nightclub in Shanghai last month as Hamilton celebrated his first victory of the season at the Chinese Grand Prix. Eyewitnesses say they saw Lux fleeing a private VIP room containing Formula One revellers with blood streaming from his neck. Seconds later, Hamilton was escorted from the room by nightclub security guards. McLaren confirmed that Hamilton was not involved and calmly went on to play golf the day after the incident.

One witness who saw the incident said last night: “Lewis had no idea what was happening. Adrian and Eric were arguing in German and the next thing it was happening. Lewis did not even see it because it went off so quickly, but he thought it was better to get out of the way and he was quite upset when he was told what had happened.”

Both the Lotus Renault team and Force India are treating the incident as “a private matter”, while the FIA, the governing body, knows the details but will not be taking action. There was also no police action with Sutil and the rest of Formula One flying out of Shanghai to prepare for the race last Sunday in Turkey.

Sutil is regarded as one of the most polite and even-tempered drivers in Formula One. The son of professional musicians, the German is a pianist, reputedly of concert standard, and is well liked among many in the paddock. Sutil is one of Hamilton’s coterie of close friends but the Englishman rarely drinks, even after tumultuous victories such as the one he took against the odds in China.

Hamilton was back at work for McLaren yesterday with Jenson Button, his team-mate, launching the UN’s Decade of Action for Road Safety alongside the Prime Minister. But critics were already lining up to criticise the use of two men paid millions to drive at high speed, while both have committed high-profile driving offences.

Button has been caught for speeding, both in Britain and abroad.

Hamilton suffered intense criticism from government ministers in Australia after he was caught “hooning” – smoking his rear tyres in what is known as a burnout – after Friday practice for the 2010 Australian Grand Prix. A repentant Hamilton was fined almost £300.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Psychotext said:
Sounds like much like Eddie Jordan, Sutil will never be returning to China...

Here what's the story with the Eddie Jordan and China? I heard something about why he was missing but can't be sure it was true.
 
Not a clue. I've only really heard inklings related to the investigation of the Shanghai circuit officials. I doubt we'll ever know for sure.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
It all Alonso's fault :) Pics from M1NT afterparty.
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Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
navanman said:
Here what's the story with the Eddie Jordan and China? I heard something about why he was missing but can't be sure it was true.
Dodgy business dealings supposedly, but I'd take anything said on the autosport forums with a pinch of salt.
 

Ark

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Foliorum Viridum said:
There isn't the slightest chance in hellll that Alonso won't fuck anything he gets the chance to.

I was curious about EJ and China myself a few weeks ago.

I just figured he'd make a royal cock of himself a few years ago.

Probably the only reasonable explanation.
 

AcridMeat

Banned
Shaneus said:
Care to give a rundown for those of us with blocked YT access? I'm keen as hell to know what the differences are.

As Leunam said, carried more speed into the first two sectors of the lap and was earlier on the power. It was the back straight/3rd sector Webber gained some time back from late braking but he went a bit wide, still had a nice line going on the exits.
 

mclaren777

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Foliorum Viridum said:
There isn't the slightest chance in hellll that Alonso won't fuck anything he gets the chance to.
I dislike Alonso more than any other F1 driver (beating even Michael) but I don't think your claim is valid.

He may be a terrible sportsman, but I see no reason to think he's unfaithful in his marriage.
 

Shaneus

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AcridMeat said:
As Leunam said, carried more speed into the first two sectors of the lap and was earlier on the power. It was the back straight/3rd sector Webber gained some time back from late braking but he went a bit wide, still had a nice line going on the exits.
Ah. I wonder if Webber is ever considering being more aggressive during qualifying. Surely he must see footage of how Seb drives and on what sort of corners he can improve on. Unless he just plays it a bit safe, knowing that with the car he can still pretty much get on the first two rows.
 

Shaneus

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Still surprised (and baffled) by your usage of the word "zipperhead". Especially when it seems to be considered a derogatory term towards Asians, not South Americans.
 
i think you need to click Ignore or simply be silent.
its not too difficult.

In other news, Trulli, another member of the loser club, is commenting on the 'end of qualifying'.

"There are pros and cons, I repeat: the pros are better races decided in the last 10-15 laps depending on the strategies and the tyres, while the cons are that qualifying is less spectacular and more tactical."

surely more tactical is a Pro and not a con?
 
good and bad news:

"Peter Sauber said he plans to renew contracts early Kamui Kobayashi and Sergio Perez. We believe that the contracts could be announced in about a month.

Kamui Kobayashi last year signed a contract extension with the Swiss team for two years (2011 with 2012 option), while Sergio Perez has an agreement for the year 2011 (with an option based on performance)"

dont sign KK, wait him out, RBR 2 could be up for grabs...
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Templar Wizard said:
dont sign KK, wait him out, RBR 2 could be up for grabs...
I think that if RBR really wants Kamui, they will get him. Sauber cannot compete with RBR in terms of finance.

Rubens should retire already. Just like the Old one.
 
they cant compete of course, but there are a few moving parts.

is Webbo going to go at the end of the season?
DR is in a TR in 2012, so what happens to Buemi or Jaime? dont they get a shot at RBR2?

KK is awesome and deserves a shot more so than those 2 journeymen.

i know its all silly season, but when Peter Sauber says he is going to announce contracts early, it may trigger some offers...
 

Shaneus

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AcridMeat said:
While I agree, I'm supremely bummed he didn't get the championship with Brawn GP.
Same. Dude really deserved it at times.

I have a really bad feeling that Webber will go out *exactly* the same way. He just hit a supreme team far earlier in his F1 career than Ruebens did, but otherwise it looks like a carbon copy. *This* close to winning one, but that's it.

Prove me wrong, Mark.
 

Zeona

Neo Member
Shaneus said:
Prove me wrong, Mark.

No chance of that happening, he isn't on Vettel's level over a whole season. His experience advantage over Seb gave him decent shots the last 2 years but that advantage is shrinking and the difference in pure talent is starting to shine through now.
 

operon

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Shaneus said:
Same. Dude really deserved it at times.

I have a really bad feeling that Webber will go out *exactly* the same way. He just hit a supreme team far earlier in his F1 career than Ruebens did, but otherwise it looks like a carbon copy. *This* close to winning one, but that's it.

Prove me wrong, Mark.

You don't deserve anything in racing you got to go out and win, he probably could have been a better winner than benson.

Rubens doesn't have that killer instinct that separates, the winners from the also rans, needs to retire fast getting worse in his old age now
 
AcridMeat said:
While I agree, I'm supremely bummed he didn't get the championship with Brawn GP.
Rubens is a B Driver, much like Massa and probably Webber. Good, experienced, lots of knowledge, but just not good enough for the WDC. They're good Nr 2 drivers for the younger and faster team-mates.
 
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