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[TacticalHotdog]

off topic for a sec: i just picked this up it says newly animated scenes from the tv series: is that true?

I remember playing Journey to Jaburo as a kid, but I never beat the final "boss" because I never had enough health or ammo by the time I reached him. The bonus mode once you beat the main campaign is pretty interesting since it touches on other UC spinoffs like 08th MS Team, 0080, Blue Destiny, and even White Dingo.

You should also check out Zeonic Front if you haven't already

 

[davidwhangchoi]

I remember playing Journey to Jaburo as a kid, but I never beat the final "boss" because I never had enough health or ammo by the time I reached him. The bonus mode once you beat the main campaign is pretty interesting since it touches on other UC spinoffs like 08th MS Team, 0080, Blue Destiny, and even White Dingo.

You should also check out Zeonic Front if you haven't already

will do, if i run into Zeonic Front, i'll pick it up

 

[Valkerionseven]

Grabbing Gundam Breaker 3 tomorrow or the next day. Hopefully some initial impressions will pop up between work and going home. Just want to make sure the framerate is stable and I'm in. Wanted to grab the english version to support that but also need something to give me a bit of extra Japanese/Katakana practice lol.

 

[Ceallach]

Zeonic Front is soooo good.

 

[muteki]

Zeonic Front is amazing. The DC 0079 is another good strategic-ish game too.

+1 for another first person gundam game.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

Titanfall is the closest we'll ever get to a proper Gundam game, IMO

Well, that and Steel Batallion.

That's the vein I want to see Mobile suits in, first person piloting...not third person action.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Titanfall is the closest we'll ever get to a proper Gundam game, IMO

Well, that and Steel Batallion.

That's the vein I want to see Mobile suits in, first person piloting...not third person action.

I dont agree on this. Neither of these are close despite having cock pit modes and the stick to pilot.

Zone of The Enders and ACE are much closer in Scope and Gundam movement then either Titan or Steel.

Granted Action isnt needed but someome needs to find away to balance First Person while maintaining Gundam movement.

 

[coredecepts]

Being able to see the cool-looking mobile suits is a big draw for me. But I also get the appeal of piloting one with a view from inside the cockpit.

 

[EvilKatarn]

Titanfall is the closest we'll ever get to a proper Gundam game, IMO

Well, that and Steel Batallion.

That's the vein I want to see Mobile suits in, first person piloting...not third person action.

Huh. My favourite Gundam game is Armored Core 4A.

 

[distantmantra]

Gundam Unicorn on the PS3 is an awesome Gundam game. And it's made by FROM. One of my favorite games from last gen.

Always wanted to play the Wii game, but I wasn't gonna buy the system for just one game.

 

[NEO0MJ]

The original Zone of The Enders was so close to Gundam it wasn't even funny, at least at the start.

 

[RangerBAD]

The original Gundam is at archetypal and trope status. It's influence is far reaching. Evangelion took that and made it something entirely different and honestly took Tomino's torture of characters to a new height. At least Tomino let them die in the end rather than wallow in self-hatred for eternity. Anno was a tortured soul at the time, but the differences in Gunbuster and Evangelion are so massive.

 

[JadedWriter]

The original Gundam is at archetypal and trope status. It's influence is far reaching. Evangelion took that and made it something entirely different and honestly took Tomino's torture of characters to a new height. At least Tomino let them die in the end rather than wallow in self-hatred for eternity. Anno was a tortured soul at the time, but the differences in Gunbuster and Evangelion or so massive.

Even Tomino thought death was too good for some characters.

 

[RangerBAD]

Even Tomino thought death was too good for some characters.

Like who? Kamille?

 

[JadedWriter]

Like who? Kamille?

Katejina

 

[RangerBAD]

Katejina

But Victory is Tomino's hate letter to Bandai. It's sort of unique.

 

[JadedWriter]

But Victory is Tomino's hate letter to Bandai. It's sort of unique.

I thought Victory was Tomino's hate letter to everybody.

 

[Ceallach]

Yeah, Tomino was massively despressed when he wrote V. The novels are even more fucked up.

 

[JadedWriter]

Yeah, Tomino was massively despressed when he wrote V. The novels are even more fucked up.

How the fuck is that even possible?

 

[Shun]

I mean Senjou no Kizuna is pretty fun.... even on psp...

I guess none of you play that.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Shawne Kleckner, President of Right Stuf, is currently having an AMA on reddit.

In response to my query on if they'll be bringing over previously unreleased Gundam OVAs/shorts:

We have a slate of Gundam that goes into 2018 at this point. We continue to refine the releases with Sunrise to make sure that we can get as much of the series back into print as we can. As the slate continues to change, in terms of titles and formats, we'll announce them as fast as we can.

Also, looks like ZZ and X will be releasing by the end of the year. And apparently the sales numbers for First Gundam exceeded expectations.

EDIT:

Huh. My favourite Gundam game is Armored Core 4A.

Preach it. Doubly so if you were also a blader.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

Shawne Kleckner, President of Right Stuf, is currently having an AMA on reddit.

In response to my query on if they'll be bringing over previously unreleased Gundam OVAs/shorts:



Also, looks like ZZ and X will be releasing by the end of the year. And apparently the sales numbers for First Gundam exceeded expectations.

EDIT:


Preach it. Doubly so if you were also a blader.

was hoping 0083 on blu ray w/ subs to the west being announced.

 

[Beth Cyra]

was hoping 0083 on blu ray w/ subs to the west being announced.

I still cant get over Wing/SEED mot being first and second.

I woulda thought they would want to lead strong given the still very active and crazed fan bases that they have in the west.

Still cant wait for ZZ west.

 

[JadedWriter]

I still cant get over Wing/SEED mot being first and second.

I woulda thought they would want to lead strong given the still very active and crazed fan bases that they have in the west.

Still cant wait for ZZ west.

My first BR will definitely be Zeta. Granted I'm quite shocked they didn't immediately release BR Wing over here. I'm hoping they rerelease the BR's for Unicorn in one set at an affordable fucking price. The original releases were just stupidly priced.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

I still cant get over Wing/SEED mot being first and second.

I woulda thought they would want to lead strong given the still very active and crazed fan bases that they have in the west.

Still cant wait for ZZ west.

My first BR will definitely be Zeta. Granted I'm quite shocked they didn't immediately release BR Wing over here. I'm hoping they rerelease the BR's for Unicorn in one set at an affordable fucking price. The original releases were just stupidly priced.

have the prices been set for these blu rays?

 

[Ceallach]

I still cant get over Wing/SEED mot being first and second.

I woulda thought they would want to lead strong given the still very active and crazed fan bases that they have in the west.

Still cant wait for ZZ west.

The problem is both of those series have very inbred fanbases you can't build off of. Once yuo get W and EW out, most Wing fans are done. Same with SEED/Destiny/Stargazer and on top of that there are a large number of Gunota who don't want anything to do with those series.

If you want Gundam to get a good foothold in the market, you hafta push UC, that's where everything leads to and comes from.

Turn A was just out first I think because of its aborted release a few years ago.

 

[Man God]

SEED also kinda bombed over here. Did slightly better in Canada but the show was basically run off at like midnight on Friday's on Adult Swim in a block with other also ran properties and they never even bothered getting the rights to Destiny.

Wing is king in America. 08th MS and 0083 also did well. G Gundam did okay.

 

[JadedWriter]

have the prices been set for these blu rays?

If I'm not mistaken you can preorder Zeta.

 

[Unmasked Ferret]

If I'm not mistaken you can preorder Zeta.

I think the Zeta part 1 came out today actually.

 

[Beth Cyra]

The problem is both of those series have very inbred fanbases you can't build off of. Once yuo get W and EW out, most Wing fans are done. Same with SEED/Destiny/Stargazer and on top of that there are a large number of Gunota who don't want anything to do with those series.

If you want Gundam to get a good foothold in the market, you hafta push UC, that's where everything leads to and comes from.

Turn A was just out first I think because of its aborted release a few years ago.

This is really irrelvant here in the west though.

Wings number is 99% likely to eclipse everything they release as was shown when they brought it back for one day on Toonami a few years back.

Trying to build a fan base using UC which has tanked isnt going to work where as SEED and Wing will still be picked up by enough people that them simply showing it to their friends could help stuff like UC and other AU's that arent SEED and OO do better if only by small percents.

Also leading with ZZ and X in its first wave only shows how backwards this strategy is because while people will avoid SEED and Wing equal measure will ignore these as well.

Lets also not forget that Wing and OO could build off one another with how many treat them as similar.

Pushing UC will never give Gundam a foot hold in the west that will rival what SEED, Wing, and OO can. The market has shown this over, and over and over again.

 

[JadedWriter]

I think the Zeta part 1 came out today actually.

Well fuck me sideways, I need to check my bank account soon.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Trying to build a fan base using UC which has tanked isnt going to work

I mean, The Origin manga wasn't successful at all and absolutely wasn't the trigger for this resurgence.

Spoiler

/s

There are more UC fans stateside than people think.

 

[JadedWriter]

Is it really that hard to find a Gundam fan that likes UC and AU equally?

 

[Man God]

Anything short of a Wing remake isn't going to spark much interest in the US.

Even then, it'd need a wider release than overly expensive Right-Stuf Blu-Rays.

 

[Beth Cyra]

I mean, The Origin manga wasn't successful at all and absolutely wasn't the trigger for this resurgence.

Are you really trying to suggest that Origin manga is going to play any role in Gundam Animes performance?

We have zero evidence that UC will sell well outside of a tiny niche market and everything pointing to the other.

Bandai and Sun Rise killed Gundam and took their ball home when their baby UC was rejected. They can build a fan base, but the Origin Manga isnt going to push DVD to large swaths of new fans.

If im wrong so be it, but thus far north america anime fans at large have shown they dont care about UC.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

If im wrong so be it, but thus far north america anime fans at large have shown they dont care about UC.

The backstory/setup is just too much. I have friends who will watch Code Geass, Gundam Wing, Gundam 00, etc; but UC just has too much they have to get caught up on so they refuse to watch it.

 

[Man God]

Are you really trying to suggest that Origin manga is going to play any role in Gundam Animes performance?

We have zero evidence that UC will sell well outside of a tiny niche market and everything pointing to the other.

Bandai and Sun Rise killed Gundam and took their ball home when their baby UC was rejected. They can build a fan base, but the Origin Manga isnt going to push DVD to large swaths of new fans.

If im wrong so be it, but thus far north america anime fans at large have shown they dont care about UC.

Why should they? MSG was ancient by the time they aired it and it had the misfortune of airing during 9/11. Some of the earlier shows aired like 08th MS and 0083 did well because they still looked good in the early 2000's. After that what did they have to look forward to? The Zeta dub is laughable and late. Everything after ZZ besides Char's Counterattack went undubbed. Turn A just came out. Unicorn did okay but had an extremely limited release.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Why should they? MSG was ancient by the time they aired it and it had the misfortune of airing during 9/11. Some of the earlier shows aired like 08th MS and 0083 did well because they still looked good in the early 2000's. After that what did they have to look forward to? The Zeta dub is laughable and late. Everything after ZZ besides Char's Counterattack went undubbed. Turn A just came out. Unicorn did okay but had an extremely limited release.

Non of this is gunna change though is my point.

Leading with good sales of Wing/OO/SEED then into something new could lead some where.

Leading with the series they have is asking to fail again.

 

[Man God]

Non of this is gunna change though is my point.

Leading with good sales of Wing/OO/SEED then into something new could lead some where.

Leading with the series they have is asking to fail again.

They could do worse than trying to get Origin on TOONAMI. It's basically the best starting place one can ask for.

A Wing Remake/Remaster would likely do better, or even reairing of 00.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Are you really trying to suggest that Origin manga is going to play any role in Gundam Animes performance?

I'm suggesting that if it hadn't been as successful as it was, we wouldn't be getting any of these Gundam releases period.

Before the Origin came out, Gundam was dead in the West outside of niche fan circles. Sure 00 was on SyFy, but it didn't exactly blow up, especially after Bandai closed down. Now look where we are. Getting previously unreleased shows, blu ray releases, Gunpla in Barnes and Noble of all places. None of this occurred before Origin.

I think it's safe to say if Origin had flopped none of this would have occurred at all. Vertical took a gamble and it paid off for us fans in spades.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

The sad thing is Zeta deserves an HD remake (think ANT but across the board), but they'll never do it since it won't sell.

 

[Hasemo]

Grabbing Gundam Breaker 3 tomorrow or the next day. Hopefully some initial impressions will pop up between work and going home. Just want to make sure the framerate is stable and I'm in. Wanted to grab the english version to support that but also need something to give me a bit of extra Japanese/Katakana practice lol.

I'll be grabbing it at midnight if my local store keeps their word and will probably play for an hour+ before going to bed. If the OT's not up (I don't remember when Parakeetman usually posts his topics), I'll probably share my early impressions on twitter and/or here.

I wouldn't worry about the framerate, the previous two games had no problems in that regard and while 3 has some new graphic effects, the significantly better hardware should make up for it.

 

[JadedWriter]

The sad thing is Zeta deserves an HD remake (think ANT but across the board), but they'll never do it since it won't sell.

I would love to see some of that HD transformable mecha porn.

 

[muteki]

Zeta BD 1 came in the mail today. I have some issues with the release but hard to argue with the price they are asking for an official product.

I somehow missed that they were doing V as well. Excited about that. Glad to hear that the 0079 BDs sold well and Zeta is on track to do the same.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Zeta BD 1 came in the mail today. I have some issues with the release but hard to argue with the price they are asking for an official product.

What issues do you have? I know it still lacks the original opening and ending music, but what else?

 

[distantmantra]

Zeta BD 1 came in the mail today. I have some issues with the release but hard to argue with the price they are asking for an official product.

I somehow missed that they were doing V as well. Excited about that. Glad to hear that the 0079 BDs sold well and Zeta is on track to do the same.

Sunrise's plan is to eventually release everything via Right Stuf.

 

[Ceallach]

Origin completely revitalized Gundam in the west, and I don't think that it is a coincidence that 0079 which did only okay when it was initially released sold very, very well this time.

The Wing and SEED fanbases just arent ones that are healthy for TRSI or anyone to focus on, they are way too insular. W and SEED fans arent going to buy model kits or other DVDs or anything else. And that is assuming they would be interested in purchasing the DVDs to begin with. Most old W fans just have nostalgia for toonami, and would at most stream the series, you cant build the franchise off of them.

 

[JadedWriter]

Origin completely revitalized Gundam in the west, and I don't think that it is a coincidence that 0079 which did only okay when it was initially released sold very, very well this time.

The Wing and SEED fanbases just arent ones that are healthy for TRSI or anyone to focus on, they are way too insular. W and SEED fans arent going to buy model kits or other DVDs or anything else. And that is assuming they would be interested in purchasing the DVDs to begin with. Most old W fans just have nostalgia for toonami, and would at most stream the series, you cant build the franchise off of them.

I had no idea Wing and Seed fans were like this. Oddly enough Seed's the only AU released stateside that I never bought...that and G. Maybe now I'd buy G, but not the me from years ago.

 

[muteki]

What issues do you have? I know it still lacks the original opening and ending music, but what else?

It is a budget release. Same setup as 0079. Bare bones menus, no extra features, ugly subtitles, simple packaging. Not even getting into the OP/ED problem, or more subjective stuff like the package art.

I'd be happy to throw more money at a premium sku with some extra touches, but really compared to the DVDs costing double back in the day I can't really complain. I've only watched the first episode and from an audio and visual standpoint it seems fine, but I don't really have a discerning eye/ear in this department to really comment one way or the other.

 

[Beth Cyra]

I'm suggesting that if it hadn't been as successful as it was, we wouldn't be getting any of these Gundam releases period.

Before the Origin came out, Gundam was dead in the West outside of niche fan circles. Sure 00 was on SyFy, but it didn't exactly blow up, especially after Bandai closed down. Now look where we are. Getting previously unreleased shows, blu ray releases, Gunpla in Barnes and Noble of all places. None of this occurred before Origin.

I think it's safe to say if Origin had flopped none of this would have occurred at all. Vertical took a gamble and it paid off for us fans in spades.

See I don't recognize it as that.

The risk really didn't need to be that risky and I don't see it as a huge success as I think any of the major running Manga's could have achieved it (Wing SEED Remaster, G Remake) had it been given the budget and marketing that Origin got.

To me Origin's base and UC by extension factored into it only minorly.

Origin completely revitalized Gundam in the west, and I don't think that it is a coincidence that 0079 which did only okay when it was initially released sold very, very well this time.

The Wing and SEED fanbases just arent ones that are healthy for TRSI or anyone to focus on, they are way too insular. W and SEED fans arent going to buy model kits or other DVDs or anything else. And that is assuming they would be interested in purchasing the DVDs to begin with. Most old W fans just have nostalgia for toonami, and would at most stream the series, you cant build the franchise off of them.

This is nothing short of blatantly false.

All you have to do is look in most Barnes and nobles, or even Rightstuffs own website a huge percentage of Model kits that are carried in shops are Wing and those move very well.

It's not UC fans that are going out and buying Wing mech, it's not UC fans that are going on Right Stuffs own website buying Wing Gundam, Heero Yuy, and Wing Zero T Shirts, all of which got new new variants and designs this year.

This assertion Wing is nostalgia only and not a real driving thing at conventions, model sales and fan creations is ludicrous.


Edit: to call myself out, they don't have new shirt designs at Right Stuff Yet, those have been released at HLJ.