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The Gundam |OT2| Another 5 years of Gunpla, Origins, and GUNDAMUUUU!

HLJ just shipped my Freedom 2.0

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I'm playing Stellaris and trying to recreate Char's Zeon.

Unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with Zeon philosophy to determine its ethos. The race creator lets me choose from:

Militarist vs Pacifist
Spiritual vs Materialist
Collectivist vs Individualist
Xenophile vs Xenophobe

Either side has two ranks so you can be Militarist or Fanatic Militarist, for example. And you can't be Militarist and Pacifist at the same time.

So Militarist (cause gundam) and Spiritual (cause Newtypes) seems obvious. I'd think Collectivist would be compatible with Newtype ideals of empathy but then again the exultation of Newtypes is very individualist. Xenophobia/philia has to deal with how you treat other alien races and isn't really relevant to Zeon thought I think.

Militarist Spiritual Collectivist Xenophobe. All of that talk about "Earthnoids have their souls weighed down by gravity" is pretty xenophobic (Otherist) to me. It's a shame there isn't an option for democracy vs cult of personality dictatorship.
 
Hey I'm 6 episodes into Wing and its pretty terrible so far and I hate every single character*, should I keep going?

If you don't like it now, you probably won't like it later. It doesn't get better. I'd argue it gets worse for a bit. The more you hear about the Sanc Kingdom, the worse the show becomes.

I don't hate Wing. I find it to be pretty alright. Middle of the road. But man. Episodes 30-38 are brutal to get through. Relena murders that show's pace.
 
If you don't like it now, you probably won't like it later. It doesn't get better. I'd argue it gets worse for a bit. The more you hear about the Sanc Kingdom, the worse the show becomes.

I don't hate Wing. I find it to be pretty alright. Middle of the road. But man. Episodes 30-38 are brutal to get through. Relena murders that show's pace.
It's practically a love story between two mutated sociopaths. Meanwhile there was a romance between two sociopaths that the show just opted to ignore.
Beth knows what's up.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
Relena isn't even the worst, well, most insane person on the show. She's the one with the most screentime of the really insane ones.

Makes her monotone, soft spoken, child soldier boyfriend look downright personable though.
 
Relena isn't even the worst, well, most insane person on the show. She's the one with the most screentime of the really insane ones.

Makes her monotone, soft spoken, child soldier boyfriend look downright personable though.
If only he stayed true to his threats.
 
Katz isn't that bad. Sure he does dumb stuff, but at least he's not boring.
Relena is just boring. It would have been more interesting for Heero to actually kill her. At least it'd give her something to do.
 
Katz isn't that bad. Sure he does dumb stuff, but at least he's not boring.
Relena is just boring. It would have been more interesting for Heero to actually kill her. At least it'd give her something to do.
Katz was an idiot that died an idiots death. Relena soaked up screen for better characters and just...talked. I would've preferred more Hilde to be honest.
 

Genryu

Banned
I just finished Gundam Build Fighters.

I wish it wasn't over, but at least I got to see Maoh's Master do a god damn Inazuma Kick.
 

Paltheos

Member
Holy shit yes! They're doing the right one! I was sure we were getting a RG Unicorn first at the very least. Sinanju is just such a spectacular design.

I'm totally in. I love RGs, and I'll jump at the opp. to build an RG Sinanju. As always I love high-detail and small size.
You know Bandai considered the Unicorn though. Gundam before rival is just the way of things. I just they're just not ready yet. Or it's not ready at least.
I'm interested to see how Sinanju turns out though. This is an RG. They can't put us in sticker hell. I guess they'll multi-inject the plastic? Or will they just include a ton of different parts somehow? I want to see how it turns out. Pushing the boundaries of plastic modeling has always been what I've felt RG is really about (at least when they're not recouping money by recycling frames for easy cash-ins - I'm looking at you, Wing ka).

Katz isn't that bad. Sure he does dumb stuff, but at least he's not boring.
Relena is just boring. It would have been more interesting for Heero to actually kill her. At least it'd give her something to do.

Relena's not boring. She's batshit crazy, but not boring. When it's super in-focus like at the beginning of the series ("Weren't you going to kill me?!" She declares to the ocean), it's unbearable, but when it's sorta spread out evenly and together with everyone's crazy, it helps make the flavor of the show.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Aren't Relena, Dorothy, Lady Une and early Heero the only batshit crazy people in Wing?
They are.

Noin can be argued given she thinks Zech's feels bad so she doesn't try to shoot the lunatic down.

Regardless of love not trying to stop him was insanity.

Early Heero makes me sad as he is the most unique lead Gundam has ever had.
 
They are.

Noin can be argued given she thinks Zech's feels bad so she doesn't try to shoot the lunatic down.

Regardless of love not trying to stop him was insanity.

Early Heero makes me sad as he is the most unique lead Gundam has ever had.
I don't even think Noin's nuts, I just think she's blinded by love. Nothing new for a Gundam female. Relena and Dorothy are like Turn A Gundam insane though. I think most of Wing's cast are sane...enough. They just have to try to act rationally to the insane people thrust upon them.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I don't even think Noin's nuts, I just think she's blinded by love. Nothing new for a Gundam female. Relena and Dorothy are like Turn A Gundam insane though. I think most of Wing's cast are sane...enough. They just have to try to act rationally to the insane people thrust upon them.
Being blind by love to that degree I think is an argument for being crazy.

If she could shoot him down then she might as well have killed millions herself.

Overall I do agree with you though.
 
Being blind by love to that degree I think is an argument for being crazy.

If she could shoot him down then she might as well have killed millions herself.

Overall I do agree with you though.
Yeah she's got it so bad for Zechs. She's like "Zechs Senpai" the moment he shows up on base and the next thing we see she's tapping swords with the dude in a club. It's actually a bit obsessive though so I could see why you think she's nuts. She's like a more rationale Lady Une, but every bit as obsessed with her man as she is.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
So glad Relena gets treated badly in all the gundam wing fics I read, so desperate for Heero she is :(
Relena has issues but nothing remotely deserving the treatment the gay community of Wing treats her.

She does advocate peace and she does put her li on the line protecting Heero and tries to help others.

The Relena hate while deserved to some degree is fucking ludacris as a whole.
 
Relena has issues but nothing remotely deserving the treatment the gay community of Wing treats her.

She does advocate peace and she does put her li on the line protecting Heero and tries to help others.

The Relena hate while deserved to some degree is fucking ludacris as a whole.
What exactly do people say about Releena and do to her in the fics?
 

Beth Cyra

Member
What exactly do people say about Releena and do to her in the fics?
Make he out to be a complet sociopath and generally act like Heero is innocent and doesn't activity do and be weird back to her in the show.

Turn her into a ranting fool that has no bearing on reality and that Heero doesn't care for her but only puts up with her.

Usually turn mum into a saint.

If your familiar with the Mai Hime Community it's often the same with Shizuru and Mai when it comes to Natsuki instead of here it's Heero, Relena, and Duo accept it makes it even worse.
 
Make he out to be a complet sociopath and generally act like Heero is innocent and doesn't activity do and be weird back to her in the show.

Turn her into a ranting fool that has no bearing on reality and that Heero doesn't care for her but only puts up with her.

Usually turn mum into a saint.

If your familiar with the Mai Hime Community it's often the same with Shizuru and Mai when it comes to Natsuki instead of here it's Heero, Relena, and Duo accept it makes it even worse.
Damn, but Duo already had a waifu. Why completely character assassinate Relena just for Duo? I'm fine if it's Dorothy and Relena cause they had some heated discussions which you can't say about Relena and Heero, but wow, it doesn't seem right.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Damn, but Duo already had a waifu. Why completely character assassinate Relena just for Duo? I'm fine if it's Dorothy and Relena cause they had some heated discussions which you can't say about Relena and Heero, but wow, it doesn't seem right.
Some shipping groups get really ugly.

1x2 can be really awful to other parts of the Fandom.

People receive death threats and get attacked for not shipping ShizNat.

Thankfully most people realize fandom is meant for fun and you really shouldn't be talking stuff so seriously in fan fiction lol.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Looking good. We need a couple more Mg announcements coming if Full Armor is all the way in Winter. Also Sin in August means we may get an even bigger surprise in Nov/Sept.
 

duckroll

Member
Hot damn the Sinanju looks fucking awesome. I know I'll be getting it. Not sure if I'll build it this year though, lol. Still have my RG Z'gok!
 
Looking good. We need a couple more Mg announcements coming if Full Armor is all the way in Winter. Also Sin in August means we may get an even bigger surprise in Nov/Sept.

FA Gundam is July, Psycho Zaku is in the Winter.


Over in RE/100 land:


Current rumor is it's
Dozen Wolf

Note that the hobby show runs for 3 days, I believe. A bit hazy on last year but I don't think everything was announced on the first day.
 

duckroll

Member
I want to kiss whoever came up with the idea of having the entire shield be a huge metallic gold base part, with everything else snapping on top of it. And then I want to kiss whoever listened to that idea and went "okay". Lol.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
At this point that has to be the prototype for a PG when it comes to the gold parts.

No way Sinanju doesn't eventually make the cut, and we need something large that can really make use of the tech.
 
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