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The Gundam |OT2| Another 5 years of Gunpla, Origins, and GUNDAMUUUU!

A few people seem to have the RG 00 Qan[T] now. Looks really good.

Though disappointingly (but expected), it seems not to have any of the Quantum Burst gimmicks the MG had.
 

yami4ct

Member
I love the use of the Proto-Zero in Glory of the Losers. It feels shoved in to justify the model, yet it kind of still works? The fact that
Heero never pilots the thing
is fantastic and a bit hilarious.

My dad gave me a MG RX-78-02 Origin version today after he saw it at Barnes and Noble. Pretty excited since I've had my eye on it for awhile.

Amazing kit of the best RX-78 design. Your dad has good taste. I wish it did a bit more and included the upgrade parts like the Metal Composite did, but the kit is still amazing.
 

duckroll

Member
Picked up Thunderbolt Vol4 the other day and got around to finishing it. I actually really dig where they're going with the plot post-space. The idea of a secret arms race in the shadows is interesting, and they've done a pretty good job of making up excuses so the same characters are involved in a different scenario and have new mech upgrades. Also, Zeon aquatic suits are the best!
 

RangerBAD

Member
Picked up Thunderbolt Vol4 the other day and got around to finishing it. I actually really dig where they're going with the plot post-space. The idea of a secret arms race in the shadows is interesting, and they've done a pretty good job of making up excuses so the same characters are involved in a different scenario and have new mech upgrades. Also, Zeon aquatic suits are the best!

Yeah, it really starts to go its own way without really relying on existing UC history.
 

duckroll

Member
Gundam the Origin III

That was fucking amazing. The best one yet, and it really shows how powerful the Char story can be when done in this really operatic but yet serious and passionate way. Everything is so dramatic, intense, and expressions are all a little over the top, but yet you feel the energy in every scene. The way the direction handled the tension between Char and Garma in every scene they interacted in was so good. Fuck. FUCK. All the problems I had with the Char voice in Origin II is gone here, because once he's in the academy, he becomes Char and there is no more dissonance.

Can't wait for IV.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I love the use of the Proto-Zero in Glory of the Losers. It feels shoved in to justify the model, yet it kind of still works? The fact that
Heero never pilots the thing
is fantastic and a bit hilarious.



Amazing kit of the best RX-78 design. Your dad has good taste. I wish it did a bit more and included the upgrade parts like the Metal Composite did, but the kit is still amazing.

LOL its true that it does feel forced in.

Howevever it was nice to get a thinned out and good looking Wing Zero TV to go along with Wing Gundam TV so I'm cool with it.

Plus I can't lie, I l9ve the tiny wing fins inside the larger wing pods lol.
 
MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM UNICORN RE:0096 Episode 9 – RETRIBUTION

I prefer the first ED song more than this Chemistry one, though it was catchy.

Banagher has so much drama to deal with I always feel so sad for him, he cnt just have a typical kids life, very unfair.

How the second coming of the Red Comet manage to escape entry into the atmosphere but Banagher Unicorn Gundam couldnt? Even if he was knocked out shouldnt he still be able to make it upon awakening?
 

yami4ct

Member
LOL its true that it does feel forced in.

Howevever it was nice to get a thinned out and good looking Wing Zero TV to go along with Wing Gundam TV so I'm cool with it.

Plus I can't lie, I l9ve the tiny wing fins inside the larger wing pods lol.

The subtle changes to the design to make it more in line with the Ka redesigns are great and it captures a lot of the TV Wing Zero while still fitting in the GotL design sense.

I actually really like how they use it. It feels like this missing link between the Wing EW and Wing Zero EW. Seeing the Wing Zero EW, it doesn't really make sense why they'd go from this versatile and transformable design to something that's arguably covers fewer bases in combat. GotL basically answers that question by saying that they had to work with what they had to work with. The Tallgeese Flugel actually feels like the bigger plot device. They needed to somehow have an excuse to give Wing Zero its silly wings, so they bolted them on Tallgeese to establish them in universe. The only excuse they could have for Tallgeese having them is 'eh, space use redesign', which is super silly.

The mechanical history in GotL feels way more well done in general and I really like that. You can see the why each unit got the upgrades and redesigns it did and how they got there. It's almost UC levels of good mechanical history. You see where the Sandrock upgrades come from. You see a bit of why Deathscythe and Shenlong got the upgrades they got. You get the Wing progression I've mentioned. Where I'm at, they've also done some really good hinting as to where the Tallgeese III comes from and why Zechs would choose to use that over a new Epyon. The original series pretty much only justified Deathscythe and Altron.

The only thing I'm not really digging right now is Dorthy is starting to play a big part again and boy she still sucks. While the manga has managed to make Quatre, Trowa and even Heero and Wufei more compelling characters, her stupid over the top personality is still turned up to 11 and it's awful.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
The subtle changes to the design to make it more in line with the Ka redesigns are great and it captures a lot of the TV Wing Zero while still fitting in the GotL design sense.

I actually really like how they use it. It feels like this missing link between the Wing EW and Wing Zero EW. Seeing the Wing Zero EW, it doesn't really make sense why they'd go from this versatile and transformable design to something that's arguably covers fewer bases in combat. GotL basically answers that question by saying that they had to work with what they had to work with. The Tallgeese Flugel actually feels like the bigger plot device. They needed to somehow have an excuse to give Wing Zero its silly wings, so they bolted them on Tallgeese to establish them in universe. The only excuse they could have for Tallgeese having them is 'eh, space use redesign', which is super silly.

The mechanical history in GotL feels way more well done in general and I really like that. You can see the why each unit got the upgrades and redesigns it did and how they got there. It's almost UC levels of good mechanical history. You see where the Sandrock upgrades come from. You see a bit of why Deathscythe and Shenlong got the upgrades they got. You get the Wing progression I've mentioned. Where I'm at, they've also done some really good hinting as to where the Tallgeese III comes from and why Zechs would choose to use that over a new Epyon. The original series pretty much only justified Deathscythe and Altron.

The only thing I'm not really digging right now is Dorthy is starting to play a big part again and boy she still sucks. While the manga has managed to make Quatre, Trowa and even Heero and Wufei more compelling characters, her stupid over the top personality is still turned up to 11 and it's awful.
I agree for the most part that the Mechanical history is established much better in Glory and it's the small touches that really make it work.

My favorite still being the that we see Trieze designing the Tallgesse 1/2 and Epyon all at the same time and it both establishes them as things to come and that Treize really is a genius in multiple ways and why it makes so many follow him.

I like Dorothy in the Anime a great deal, sadly though while they make Relena some what Better Dorothy comes across a lot worse in the Manga then the TV.

Flugal Wings are the worst bit of the manga. I love the new design and just how much they upgrade Tallgeese with the extra weapons, but when you stick Angel Wings on something only to have Eagle Wings be a motif that is etched on them I can't help but role my eyes and out of place those things are.
 
I have come to terms that I hate Gundam Wing and that it is a very bad show. I've only watched 13 episodes but I am slowly dying, and people tell me it only gets worse. I choose to leave this to my imagination before I go insane. At this point I think I can only watch Gundam show weekly, except for G Gundam cuz that one owns.

I have zero nostalgia for the show and never watched it on Toonami, either.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I have come to terms that I hate Gundam Wing and that it is a very bad show. I've only watched 13 episodes but I am slowly dying, and people tell me it only gets worse. I choose to leave this to my imagination before I go insane. At this point I think I can only watch Gundam show weekly, except for G Gundam cuz that one owns.

I have zero nostalgia for the show and never watched it on Toonami, either.
It's certainly an acquired taste.

I do think that it's foolish to think it relies on Nostalgia (not saying you make this arguement) because Heero good or bad and the rest of the leads are either so polarizing it makes Wing different then any other Gundams.

It is very hard for me to watch these days though. Aside from Music, Oz Forces, and Dorothy I largely can't handle it and I think that Glory has taken so many steps to improve the source material that the TV is just unbearable for me.
 

yami4ct

Member
Flugel absolutely only exists to justify grafting those wings onto Wing Zero. It has no internal design justification, which sucks because Glory has done much better than that usually. It's not like the Tallgeese was bad for space use as is. That backpack already was filled with thrusters. The Eagle emblem that's split on its wings and reforms when in shield mode is the only part I dig about that wing design on Tallgeese.

I don't agree on Dorthy, but that's my personal taste. I hate both her and Relina and they represent every place Wing goes wrong. GotL seems to recognize that its political preaching is actually stupid, shallow and boring and rightfully shoves all those characters to the back. Sadly, the plot dictates that they can't stay gone forever and the parts they return in still sucks. Relina sucks less than she did, but she's still a pretty bland character. Now she's just typical Gundam Princess bland instead of outright ruining every scene she's in.


I have come to terms that I hate Gundam Wing and that it is a very bad show. I've only watched 13 episodes but I am slowly dying, and people tell me it only gets worse. I choose to leave this to my imagination before I go insane. At this point I think I can only watch Gundam show weekly, except for G Gundam cuz that one owns.

I have zero nostalgia for the show and never watched it on Toonami, either.

It's a absolutely awful Gundam show, which makes Glory of the Losers all that more of a shock.
 
I have come to terms that I hate Gundam Wing and that it is a very bad show. I've only watched 13 episodes but I am slowly dying, and people tell me it only gets worse. I choose to leave this to my imagination before I go insane. At this point I think I can only watch Gundam show weekly, except for G Gundam cuz that one owns.

I have zero nostalgia for the show and never watched it on Toonami, either.
Maybe you'd like Wing more if they had stands?
 

novenD

Member
So here's the pics I promised of my finished MG Nu Gundam Ver. Ka, along with some thoughts on the kit.

mZM3YsE.jpg

So right off the bat, the kit is a looker. It fixes the weird proportions of the original Nu Gundam's design and adds some interesting micro detail that was absent from the old version. Mechanically, it's no slouch either. Even though some of the more recent models Bandai has released have identical if not superior features, the fully articulated hands and the elegant mounting system for the Fin Funnels still impress. The only real major qualms I have with the kit are its exceptionally top heavy nature when displaying the Funnels on its back and how it holds the Hyper Bazooka.


Or rather, how it doesn't. Getting the Nu Gundam to hold the HB is frustrating; Actually posing with it is nearly impossible. The angles at which you can get the pins in the hand and the Bazooka's grip to link together AND get the stock over the shoulder are extremely limited.


On the other hand, the posing system for the Funnels works great. Since displaying them in deployed mode is such an integral part of the kit, Bandai included a special stand in the box for the Gundam and its Funnels. Getting the Fins where you want them is easy, and once you get them there, they'll stay put for the most part.


The decals are a mixed bag. The water slides give great results visually, but actually applying them is tedious, and their delicate nature means the margin of error is very, very low. The Ra Cailum logo above is actually kit bashed; The decal sheet includes two versions of the same logo, one of which is split into two decals to facilitate the optional mode which exposes part of the underlying Psycho Frame by moving and removing certain parts of the outer frame. Being the butterfingers that I am, I ruined the upper decal after I'd already applied the lower, which forced me to cut the single piece decal in two and try make the upper section match.


I made a similar mistake on one of the decals above the thrust vents on the "skirt". I managed to make a clutch save by cutting out a section of the red Bandai logo on the sheet(which, thankfully, was also printed as a decal), applying that, and cutting the decal that I'd already applied correctly to match. This is the side that was applied correctly:


...and this is the side that was completely kit bashed:


Pretty decent looking, considering.

I made a number of other mistakes on the decals, but I was able to use other decals on the sheet in their place, so none of those mistakes were nearly as drastic. Phew!

All in all, I dig the kit. I think I did a pretty decent job with it; this is my first MG kit and only my second Gunpla, so I'm pleased that the end result is actually presentable. I'll probably buy one of the new RG's or the MG Turn A next, once I recover from the 70 dollar price point on this fellow.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Toonami promo/commercial for Iron-Blooded Orphans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a4q7733WYI

GEE THIS PROMO SOUNDS SO FAMILIAR I WONDER WHY.............
they went all in trying to be the Wing promo again

Also, unedited gunshots and no obvious edits, so maybe we'll avoid the SEED guns-censored-as-laser-pistols nonsense.
Holy shit they are really trying to get dat Wing crowd.

CN saw the numbers when they redan Wing and knows it's got Gundam fans if they can rebook them.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Finally caught up on Gundam Thunderbolt (the animation)... I really liked it. A lot actually... great animation, great music... but I can't help but feel empty inside after that last episode.

Time to read the manga.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Finally caught up on Gundam Thunderbolt (the animation)... I really liked it. A lot actually... great animation, great music... but I can't help but feel empty inside after that last episode.

Time to read the manga.
Love the mecha in Thunderbolt.

First time the Full Armor has ever looked good to me, though it borderlines on nonsensical with just how much that series loves Shields.
 
That's exactly the last person I would want at my wedding lol.

Anyway, bought a random petite bearguy for no reason haha. I think I will use it as a paint/detailing experiment then give it to my boss or something since she likes cute things, or one of the local bars I like.
 

novenD

Member
That's exactly the last person I would want at my wedding lol.

Anyway, bought a random petite bearguy for no reason haha. I think I will use it as a paint/detailing experiment then give it to my boss or something since she likes cute things, or one of the local bars I like.

Be sure to bring a scooter.

Jokes aside, Tomino seems like a really nice guy. He looks like a kindly grandpa who just happens to be famous for fiction that makes people hate humanity.

Also, glad you guys liked the Nu.
 

yami4ct

Member
I should've known reading GotL would make me want to buy some Wing GunPla. All 3 MG Wings, MG Tallgeese and Dragon Momoko's Tallgeese III are all looking pretty tempting.

Luckily I have too much shit coming out to justify spending extra cash now. I may have to find a way to get that DM Tallgeese III at some point, though. That kit seems pretty decent for the price.
 

TheFlow

Banned
So here's the pics I promised of my finished MG Nu Gundam Ver. Ka, along with some thoughts on the kit.



So right off the bat, the kit is a looker. It fixes the weird proportions of the original Nu Gundam's design and adds some interesting micro detail that was absent from the old version. Mechanically, it's no slouch either. Even though some of the more recent models Bandai has released have identical if not superior features, the fully articulated hands and the elegant mounting system for the Fin Funnels still impress. The only real major qualms I have with the kit are its exceptionally top heavy nature when displaying the Funnels on its back and how it holds the Hyper Bazooka.



Or rather, how it doesn't. Getting the Nu Gundam to hold the HB is frustrating; Actually posing with it is nearly impossible. The angles at which you can get the pins in the hand and the Bazooka's grip to link together AND get the stock over the shoulder are extremely limited.



On the other hand, the posing system for the Funnels works great. Since displaying them in deployed mode is such an integral part of the kit, Bandai included a special stand in the box for the Gundam and its Funnels. Getting the Fins where you want them is easy, and once you get them there, they'll stay put for the most part.



The decals are a mixed bag. The water slides give great results visually, but actually applying them is tedious, and their delicate nature means the margin of error is very, very low. The Ra Cailum logo above is actually kit bashed; The decal sheet includes two versions of the same logo, one of which is split into two decals to facilitate the optional mode which exposes part of the underlying Psycho Frame by moving and removing certain parts of the outer frame. Being the butterfingers that I am, I ruined the upper decal after I'd already applied the lower, which forced me to cut the single piece decal in two and try make the upper section match.



I made a similar mistake on one of the decals above the thrust vents on the "skirt". I managed to make a clutch save by cutting out a section of the red Bandai logo on the sheet(which, thankfully, was also printed as a decal), applying that, and cutting the decal that I'd already applied correctly to match. This is the side that was applied correctly:



...and this is the side that was completely kit bashed:



Pretty decent looking, considering.

I made a number of other mistakes on the decals, but I was able to use other decals on the sheet in their place, so none of those mistakes were nearly as drastic. Phew!

All in all, I dig the kit. I think I did a pretty decent job with it; this is my first MG kit and only my second Gunpla, so I'm pleased that the end result is actually presentable. I'll probably buy one of the new RG's or the MG Turn A next, once I recover from the 70 dollar price point on this fellow.

this was a great build review.
 
I've had one hell of a month with pickups.

HG Wing Gundam Zero Honoo (Built. What a great kit for both beginners and regulars.)
RG Red Frame Astray
MG Heavyarms
Mega-Size RX-78-2 (Built. It's a 30th HG, only HUGE. 11/10buyitnao)
 

H1PSTER

Member
Just bought a "HGUC 020 RGM-79 GM" and "HGUC 152 RGM-96X JESTA CANNON" Gunpla... My first two!

Which Gunpla would you guys recommend I get after these?

I love bulky or weaponised looking stuff.
 

Ceallach

Smells like fresh rosebuds
Just bought a "HGUC 020 RGM-79 GM" and "HGUC 152 RGM-96X JESTA CANNON" Gunpla... My first two!

Which Gunpla would you guys recommend I get after these?

I love bulky or weaponised looking stuff.
Do you have a favorite series? It sounds like you are
thank fucking god
a UC fan. I'd recommend the HGUC Domtropen. It is bulky and a simple kit to make. And looks good if you don't want to paint it.
 

H1PSTER

Member
Do you have a favorite series? It sounds like you are
thank fucking god
a UC fan. I'd recommend the HGUC Domtropen. It is bulky and a simple kit to make. And looks good if you don't want to paint it.

HGUC Domtropen is bad ass!

And I honestly haven't seen a huge amount of Gundam; I'm in the process of figuring out the best way of watching it.

I have seen a little bit of UC and my 'favourite' Gundam when I was younger happened to be Dragon Gundam but I've heard the kits for that aren't good so I'm shying away from buying one.

I was considering Gusion but Domtropen may very well be my next build if I happen to like these two!
 
Just bought a "HGUC 020 RGM-79 GM" and "HGUC 152 RGM-96X JESTA CANNON" Gunpla... My first two!

Which Gunpla would you guys recommend I get after these?

I love bulky or weaponised looking stuff.

Decked out in weapons huh, Thankfully there are a few kits with that in mind.From what I can remember:

MG Thunderbolt Gundam that is about to release has tons of extra shields, cannons, rifles and what not.

MG Dual Gundam Assault Shroud
MG Buster Gundam
MG Aile Strike/Strike Rouge both have backpacks with missiles, guns, and swords out the ass.
MG ReZEAL C Defenser, dual weilding sniper rifles with a massive backpack hmmm yes please.

those are just mg, there are obviously more hgs and what not to choose from too.
 

H1PSTER

Member
Decked out in weapons huh, Thankfully there are a few kits with that in mind.From what I can remember:

MG Thunderbolt Gundam that is about to release has tons of extra shields, cannons, rifles and what not.

MG Dual Gundam Assault Shroud
MG Buster Gundam
MG Aile Strike/Strike Rouge both have backpacks with missiles, guns, and swords out the ass.
MG ReZEAL C Defenser, dual weilding sniper rifles with a massive backpack hmmm yes please.

those are just mg, there are obviously more hgs and what not to choose from too.

The MG Thunderbolt Gundam is one I was looking at :).

I think I'll have to make that my first MG...It looks incredible.
 
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