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The Gundam |OT2| Another 5 years of Gunpla, Origins, and GUNDAMUUUU!

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Printed out a bunch of Gundams and let my students chose which one they liked. Then had them write their name next to it as their new name tags for their desks lol.

Easy way to remember their names is by the gundam they chose haha. Only 16 students so I thought this would be a fun way for them to get to know me and my weird obsession... though forgot to write the Gundam names on the things and did not remember til after I laminated them. Student that helped me do these at my other school reminded me after we finished pressing them in the plastic haha.
 

RangerBAD

Member
Printed out a bunch of Gundams and let my students chose which one they liked. Then had them write their name next to it as their new name tags for their desks lol.

Easy way to remember their names is by the gundam they chose haha. Only 16 students so I thought this would be a fun way for them to get to know me and my weird obsession... though forgot to write the Gundam names on the things and did not remember til after I laminated them. Student that helped me do these at my other school reminded me after we finished pressing them in the plastic haha.

Hime?a knows what's up.
 

Laputa_94

Member
I'm four episodes into Turn A and don't have much to say that I'm enjoying it quite a lot. The unique setting alone is enough to keep me watching.
 

ramyeon

Member
Wing is definitely taking me the longest to get through so far. Not sure if it's fatigue or just that the series really isn't doing much for me.
 
Jeez I had no idea 0083 was so hated by the seasonal anime community on here. Which sucks since it's my favorite. Now i know how you victory guys feel. Sorry I dissed your favorite Gundam prior :/
 
It can not be as hated as Victory. Even some people in Jojo-GAF hate it.

Oh sure, I'm not claiming 0083 is more hated or anything, just, seeing it trashed in post after post made me feel like I got a bit of insight into how you guys must feel seeing fellow posters thrash your beloved show again and again.
 

Ceallach

Smells like fresh rosebuds
0083 is the series that gets the military feel the most correct. I love seeing the maintenance, warfare devices, galley, it's better than it is given credit for
 

midramble

Pizza, Bourbon, and Thanos
oh you started, nice.

i should start Turn A too =)

I'm four episodes into Turn A and don't have much to say that I'm enjoying it quite a lot. The unique setting alone is enough to keep me watching.

Glad you're liking it. It definitly takes a bit of an open mind. Especially with designs and character designs.

If you can enjoy the weirdness it keeps that sense the whole way while still being Tomino as hell.

Mustache gundam is one of the few models I have.

Speaking of Tomino as hell, finished unicorn maybe a month ago. Loved it during, and still loved it after. Looking back, still enjoyed it a lot but dunno about some of the final act.

Never watched crossbone... Should I?
 
I see a lot of people compare 0083 to unicorn. UC OVA that looks great but has a lack luster story.

I disagree though. I think both unicorn and 0083 have good stories.

The twis involving nina is pretty dumb tho. As is the dendrobium
 
0083 is the greatest.

0083 is the series that gets the military feel the most correct. I love seeing the maintenance, warfare devices, galley, it's better than it is given credit for

I see a lot of people compare 0083 to unicorn. UC OVA that looks great but has a lack luster story.

I disagree though. I think both unicorn and 0083 have good stories.

The twis involving nina is pretty dumb tho. As is the dendrobium

Oh thank god. I thought the whole world had gone mad. I love you people.
 

Ceallach

Smells like fresh rosebuds
Glad you're liking it. It definitly takes a bit of an open mind. Especially with designs and character designs.

If you can enjoy the weirdness it keeps that sense the whole way while still being Tomino as hell.

Mustache gundam is one of the few models I have.

Speaking of Tomino as hell, finished unicorn maybe a month ago. Loved it during, and still loved it after. Looking back, still enjoyed it a lot but dunno about some of the final act.

Never watched crossbone... Should I?

Crossbone is just a manga. He also had nothing going to do with Unicorn

I see a lot of people compare 0083 to unicorn. UC OVA that looks great but has a lack luster story.

I disagree though. I think both unicorn and 0083 have good stories.

The twis involving nina is pretty dumb tho. As is the dendrobium
I like Unicorns story, but 0083 is very 1 dimensional, it's the Top Gun of Gundam
 
Oh sure, I'm not claiming 0083 is more hated or anything, just, seeing it trashed in post after post made me feel like I got a bit of insight into how you guys must feel seeing fellow posters thrash your beloved show again and again.
0083 is fine enough, the only real sore point is with stupid Nina, but that's about it. It has great animation, mech designs, my favorite mobile armor and Cima.
 

NEO0MJ

Member
So that's too big to be a gunpla?

They can make a scaled HG, though it would be pretty expensive and because it's not the most popular MA it probably won't happen. I mean, even the smaller and far more popular Queen Mansa has yet to get a scaled HG kit.
A shame as I'm a big fan of both. There is however an old non-scale HG kit of the Neue Ziel.
 
They can make a scaled HG, though it would be pretty expensive and because it's not the most popular MA it probably won't happen. I mean, even the smaller and far more popular Queen Mansa has yet to get a scaled HG kit.
A shame as I'm a big fan of both. There is however an old non-scale HG kit of the Neue Ziel.
How is the Queen Mansa a MA? I thought it was what came before based Ksyhatria?
 

midramble

Pizza, Bourbon, and Thanos
Crossbone is just a manga. He also had nothing going to do with Unicorn


I like Unicorns story, but 0083 is very 1 dimensional, it's the Top Gun of Gundam

Guess I got Crossbone and Gundam X confused. Believe I've seen at least the beginning of X but never went further. Is it worth it?

Also that's why I said "speak of". Meant it was Tomino like in the character design arc, themes, deaths. So much of it felt like original mobile suit gundam.

Let me rephrase that, it felt like a major replication. Ignoring the cameos and call backs, there were a lot of parallels.

I've seen the 0083 comparisons but I've also never seen 0083.
 

NEO0MJ

Member
How is the Queen Mansa a MA? I thought it was what came before based Ksyhatria?

I know it's not what usually comes to mind when someone thinks mobile armor but it's still a super sized mobile suit and they're often treated the same as MAs when it comes to merchandise.
 
I'm four episodes into Turn A and don't have much to say that I'm enjoying it quite a lot. The unique setting alone is enough to keep me watching.
i'm int the middle of the first episode... feels like an episode from little house on a prairie.

Wing is definitely taking me the longest to get through so far. Not sure if it's fatigue or just that the series really isn't doing much for me.

first time i seen you slow down, i guess you're human =) i like endless waltz, maybe because of zero.
 

Laputa_94

Member
oh you started, nice.

i should start Turn A too =)

Glad you're liking it. It definitly takes a bit of an open mind. Especially with designs and character designs.

If you can enjoy the weirdness it keeps that sense the whole way while still being Tomino as hell.

Mustache gundam is one of the few models I have.

Yeah I figured I would start it since its so different from traditional Gundam so the chances of me getting fatigue would be low (Same deal with G Gundam). I don't have quite the ambition that ramyeon has. I am just watching all of the stuff that I hear is the best. I suppose after Turn A would probably result with me watching Victory since its like the last UC thing I can think of that I need to watch aside from Origin.

Oh sure, I'm not claiming 0083 is more hated or anything, just, seeing it trashed in post after post made me feel like I got a bit of insight into how you guys must feel seeing fellow posters thrash your beloved show again and again.

Its weird to hear that certain series I have been watching for the first time are not that well received by many. Its been like 2 weeks since I finished 0083 and I thought it was fantastic.
 
Its weird to hear that certain series I have been watching for the first time are not that well received by many. Its been like 2 weeks since I finished 0083 and I thought it was fantastic.

Well it was a bit of a blow to me years ago when I first started hearing muck thrown at 0083 since it was my very first Gundam and my all time favorite still. Holds a special place in my heart and all that.

I don't know that it's not exactly not well received by many, I did some digging around and it feels more like 0083 is divisive. Either you love it, enjoy it for the aesthetic and battles, or feel its gutter trash because reasons. *shrug*
 
Well it was a bit of a blow to me years ago when I first started hearing muck thrown at 0083 since it was my very first Gundam and my all time favorite still. Holds a special place in my heart and all that.

I don't know that it's not exactly not well received by many, I did some digging around and it feels more like 0083 is divisive. Either you love it, enjoy it for the aesthetic and battles, or feel its gutter trash because reasons. *shrug*
I grew up on Wing and people on here hate it...a lot. I don't think any two people have the same top five favorite Gundam shows.
 
0083 is pretty garbo as a show but the details of it, like the military depiction, are really good.

I really disagree. It's been a couple years since I last watched it, but I really enjoy 0083's story: the conspiracies, the origins of how the Titans came into power, the latent corruption that existed during the one year war finally spilling over. The only part of the story I'm really lukewarm on is
the love triangle
which feels forced into the final episodes. But from that I enjoy how
Nina ultimately ends up betraying Kou.
I think the strongest thing about 0083 is that the
hero doesn't, indeed, win.
Near every Gundam, hell even most shows, our heroes achieve their goals, win their war, etc. But in 0083
no matter how hard Kou tries he can't affect change, he can't change the tides. It's a story of failure
and for that I really appreciate it as war doesn't always end in victory.

I also really love the relationship between Gato and Kou. Gato is idolized by Kou, I think to the point where he maybe even wishes he was him, or like him, a star player on the battlefield. Kou wants to be the hero Gato is, although what Kou doesn't understand is that Gato himself is a shadow of a war long lost, that Gato is nothing more than a blind zealot charging forward in last ditch efforts to bring glory to the Zeon cause, a cause long defeated and, by this point, utterly pointless.

Heck I mean that clinging to glory aspect appears in other parts of the show:
Burning refusing to back down as a pilot and it getting him killed, Kelly insisting on rejoining the battle even though he's been largely forgotten and abandoned by his allies, Delaz even crying out in his final moments that he doesn't want to be remembered as a laughing stock.
Glory eats away at each of these characters and ultimately kills them.

So I guess I feel like that bleak nature, that ultimately defeated ending is what really brings me to appreciate 0083. It best exemplifies what I enjoy about Gundam the "war is hell" aspect and I feel like 0080 and 0083 both drive that home in the best ways, although entirely different. 0080 is about
the loss and how war tears families and friends apart,
where as 0083 is about how
destructive war is on a personal, internal level.
That's what I see in it anyway.
 

Shouta

Member
I really disagree. It's been a couple years since I last watched it, but I really enjoy 0083's story: the conspiracies, the origins of how the Titans came into power, the latent corruption that existed during the one year war finally spilling over. The only part of the story I'm really lukewarm on is
the love triangle
which feels forced into the final episodes. But from that I enjoy how
Nina ultimately ends up betraying Kou.
I think the strongest thing about 0083 is that the
hero doesn't, indeed, win.
Near every Gundam, hell even most shows, our heroes achieve their goals, win their war, etc. But in 0083
no matter how hard Kou tries he can't affect change, he can't change the tides. It's a story of failure
and for that I really appreciate it as war doesn't always end in victory.

I also really love the relationship between Gato and Kou. Gato is idolized by Kou, I think to the point where he maybe even wishes he was him, or like him, a star player on the battlefield. Kou wants to be the hero Gato is, although what Kou doesn't understand is that Gato himself is a shadow of a war long lost, that Gato is nothing more than a blind zealot charging forward in last ditch efforts to bring glory to the Zeon cause, a cause long defeated and, by this point, utterly pointless.

Heck I mean that clinging to glory aspect appears in other parts of the show:
Burning refusing to back down as a pilot and it getting him killed, Kelly insisting on rejoining the battle even though he's been largely forgotten and abandoned by his allies, Delaz even crying out in his final moments that he doesn't want to be remembered as a laughing stock.
Glory eats away at each of these characters and ultimately kills them.

So I guess I feel like that bleak nature, that ultimately defeated ending is what really brings me to appreciate 0083. It best exemplifies what I enjoy about Gundam the "war is hell" aspect and I feel like 0080 and 0083 both drive that home in the best ways, although entirely different. 0080 is about
the loss and how war tears families and friends apart,
where as 0083 is about how
destructive war is on a personal, internal level.
That's what I see in it anyway.

Those are all the details to me. The overall flow of the story, the core interaction that happens between all of the main characters, the stuff that's happening, it's just really messy, I think. It works really well as a piece that bridges the gap but it itself is pretty frustrating.

I feel like it could have been re-tuned and shortened to make it work for the lore but not drag either.
 
Those are all the details to me. The overall flow of the story, the core interaction that between all of the main characters, the stuff that's happening, it's just really messy, I think. It works really well as a piece that bridges the gap but it itself is pretty frustrating.

I feel like it could have been re-tuned and shortened to make it work for the lore but not drag either.

Oh, hmm. I still don't know that I'd agree that it's really all that messy, but I understand your point better now and I guess I'd have to think harder whether I entirely disagree or not.
 

Shouta

Member
Oh, hmm. I still don't know that I'd agree that it's really all that messy, but I understand your point better now and I guess I'd have to think harder whether I entirely disagree or not.

I mean,
do we really need any of that Nina and Kou nonsense that eventually lead to that betrayal? In fact, Nina isn't even that necessary in the plot if we consider it a title that shows the creation of the Titan and Kou becoming an ace pilot that doesn't win in the end. It clashes with a title that's specifically focused on the military aspect of it yet it's a stupid love triangle that potentially changes the course of history? Ooooof.

Then there's the Cima stuff. I feel like she could have been an interesting character to look at. However, it feels like they tossed in her without putting any thought into whether or not it really adds to the core point of the story

There are other parts of it that could be trimmed but it has been awhile since I've seen it as well though. Still, there are elements within the show that clash with itself and it really didn't need.
 
I mean,
do we really need any of that Nina and Kou nonsense that eventually lead to that betrayal? In fact, Nina isn't even that necessary in the plot if we consider it a title that shows the creation of the Titan and Kou becoming an ace pilot that doesn't win in the end. It clashes with a title that's specifically focused on the military aspect of it yet it's a stupid love triangle that potentially changes the course of history? Ooooof.

Then there's the Cima stuff. I feel like she could have been an interesting character to look at. However, it feels like they tossed in her without putting any thought into whether or not it really adds to the core point of the story

There are other parts of it that could be trimmed but it has been awhile since I've seen it as well though. Still, there are elements within the show that clash with itself and it really didn't need.

I do ultimately like the betrayal, but I agree that Nina's purpose within the story is difficult to pinpoint, if she has any real relation to the overarching plot at all. It does indeed feel like the love relationship with Kou and Nina doesn't tie in very well to the grander story, as she mostly exists to help him grow as an individual.

I suppose I might argue that she feeds into the idea that Kou has failed to grow as an ace pilot, and really become Gato's equal, as Nina is so willing to betray him in the end for Gato's sake, even if Kou sits in the right. That Gato remains the 'better' of the two. It's definitely messy, as it paints Nina as okay with killing whomever that Colony ultimately dropped on (I don't think we ever find out do we?) which puts her in a shitty light. But I think the mess is okay, at least for me, as it kinda highlights how confusing and messed up allegiances and war are.

Does the love triangle actually change the course of history though? I mean, outside of Nina shooting Kou to stop him from shooting Gato, it seemed like no matter what the Titans had already won by this point. I guess my opinion would go further one way or the other if we knew what the target exactly was they were doing final course corrections for.

I do agree that Cima is generally under utilized and serviced though. I think if they'd cut some of the silly comedy stuff we could've maybe explored why she is the way she is, which would've been interesting. But I'm still okay with her acting as a plot driven character through which the titans managed to manipulate the Zeon Delaz fleet.

Thank you for the friendly discussion by the way. It's fun understanding what you had a problem with in the series and why.
 
Turn A, i finished Episode 4 and i gotta say it's pretty fun. i'm enjoying it.

0083, i really liked Nina's character, felt she accurately represented some people i interacted with during high school. (maybe 0083 feels like a high school drama is why i like it)

Kou so emotionally distraught by the time he took off from the colony seeing Gato was the best. even Gato was feeling for him.

Cima's contrast to Gato's pure ideals was great. i thought the character interactions were done realistically.

the only character development that was inconsistent was Nina's but like Riddhe and Glemy, i guess it's a Gundam tradition to screw up and unrealistically shift character direction.
 
Good to know, going to start it soon as I finish Macross Delta (on the last 5 episodes)
yeah, that'll go pretty quick... hope you enjoy the rest of macross delta.

I'll be soldiering on through Wing and Gundam X before Turn A :(

I have higher hopes for X than Wing though.
it's cool, i'm sure you'll burn through those pretty fast.


got up to episode 10:
i'm really digging the setting and style of Turn A
reminds me of the beginning of Final Fantasy VI (but w/ mechanical dolls instead of summoners)

but for real, i start getting hungry after watching. the bread so looks good to eat.
=)



Ok some details on this beauty

Metal Build Gundam F91
Price: 20,520JPY (8% Tax Included) will be cheaper for us since we're not taxed
release date: March 2017

video preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-sXXFymT-0

 
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