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The Gundam |OT2| Another 5 years of Gunpla, Origins, and GUNDAMUUUU!

yami4ct

Member
I currently am using an x-acto knife with several replacement blades as well as some xuron side cutters ( at least I'm pretty damn sure they're side cutters, not positive on all the terminology). The general guide I've seen, is cut with nippers off the runner so there's a lot of sprue left on, then cut so there's a little bit of nub, then shave that off with the x-acto. But it seems that even when I do that the plastic still gets stressed and I get white marks everywhere. Would paint pretty much nullify that problem?

And lots of times then connections to the runner are ultra thick or weirdly placed so its hard to cut off the runner without damaging something.

I may just be trying to do it too quickly though, not taking as much time as I should.

That's basically my setup. It takes some practice to not stress the plastic. I still screw up and have that happen some times. As long as the mistake is just stress and not a knick, paint would cover it up, but you'll get to the point where you can just get it off with very little to no nub or discoloration.

What x-acto are you using exactly? If you're using one of their standard, less sharp series, that might cause you some trouble. I've found their Z-Series stuff to be much sharper. It basically cuts through plastic like it's nothing, which prevent stressing. Sometimes it's too good and I screw up and knick the part itself, but that's on me for being too impatient.
 
So at my new job, I finally have a nice spacious desk that I can decorate with all of my nerdy shit. I have already started cluttering it up with small figures I have collected over the years, but I actually left all of my gunpla back in the States when I moved here.

Haven't built a Gunpla in a while, and I am thinking about trying to rush through one while my wife and kid are gone this weekend. Pretty hard to find the time to build a model with a 1.5 year old running around.

Now, I have been mulling over this for a while but every time I step in a shop I just get overloaded and can't make a damn choice.

Any suggestions at all?

Some of my personal favorite designs (not in any particular order) are the following:

1. Heavyarms EW
2. GP01 Full Vernier
3. MS-09 DOM
4. Astray Red Frame
5. Gundam MK-II
6. Gerbera Tetra
7. GP03
8. Gundam DX
9. Gelgoog
10. RX-77D Guncannon (WD)
11. Justice Gundam
12. Tallgeese III
13. Hyaku-shiki

I could keep going for a while, but those are some of the ones that came to mind first.
Also, pretty much any suit that showed up in Build Fighters is awesome.

I am looking to thinking about doing one MG and one HG this time.
Any suggestions? Something not on this list is fine as well.

edit: I almost forgot the Hyaku-shiki. What is wrong with me.
 

Shun

Member
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MG Astray Red Frame Kai comes with the most accessories in the Gerbera Strait/Tiger Pierce Katana and the Tactical Arms. I gets a stand too and is a great kit in it's own right.

If you can skip HG and move to RG, I'd get the RG GP01 Zephranthes Full Vernier. If not, the HGUC Guncannon Revive is the most recent HG kit of the bunch.

Like I would recommend the shit out of the MG Hyaku Shiki 2.0. I love it and I'm building it right now, but since it is a gold finish kit I would not recommend it yet until you are comfortable building kits. This thing is gorgeous and the last thing you want is to scratch the gold finish. The gold finish makes the kit a bit more expensive then other MGs.
 
MG Astray Red Frame Kai comes with the most accessories in the Gerbera Strait/Tiger Pierce Katana and the Tactical Arms. I gets a stand too and is a great kit in it's own right.

If you can skip HG and move to RG, I'd get the RG GP01 Zephranthes Full Vernier. If not, the HGUC Guncannon Revive is the most recent HG kit of the bunch.

Like I would recommend the shit out of the MG Hyaku Shiki 2.0. I love it and I'm building it right now, but since it is a gold finish kit I would not recommend it yet until you are comfortable building kits. This thing is gorgeous and the last thing you want is to scratch the gold finish. The gold finish makes the kit a bit more expensive then other MGs.

Thanks for the suggestions! That Red Frame does look great!

I didn't even know there was a RG version of GP01 out! I must have missed that last time I went to a hobby store.

I was actually looking at the HGUC Guncannon Revive pics in the latest Hobby GrandPrix magazine with one of my co-workers. He is finishing up the OG Gundam version right now. It does look pretty tempting.

The last time I visited a hobby shop I actually spent about 30 minutes mulling over the new Hyaku Shiki model. However, as you said I was a bit worried as this is gonna be my first gunpla in many years. Might pick it up after I complete some other models and successfully start cluttering up my desk...
 

Divvy

Canadians burned my passport
Anyone try to preorder the Altron from Samueldecals? I emailed them, but haven't gotten a response in the last three days
 

yami4ct

Member
Anyone try to preorder the Altron from Samueldecals? I emailed them, but haven't gotten a response in the last three days

I didn't order Altron from him, but I've ordered Decals in the past. He's never been that slow. Maybe your email got lost? I would send another just to make sure.
 

Shun

Member
Finally finished with both of my gold mobile suits, the Akatsuki Gundam and the Hyaku Shiki 2.0

I don't have proper space to display but I will take proper picture and show tomorrow but the pose is basically the same. Will do a proper write up tomorrow too once I sort out my english.

Who would you pick in a Gundam fight, Akatsuki and it's twin beam sabre or the Hyaku Shiki and the Hyper Beam Javelin?


Next in my backlog is the MG Full Armor Unicorn then the PG Astray Red Frame, SD Neo Zeong, MG Shin Musha, and more.

Putting my RG Exia project on hold because I'm getting duckroll nightmares.
 
Ooooh finally. Was hoping for a revive of this. Now wheres my revive Gyan...

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Can you put it in that pose where it flies with its hands on its hips?
Finally finished with both of my gold mobile suits, the Akatsuki Gundam and the Hyaku Shiki 2.0

I don't have proper space to display but I will take proper picture and show tomorrow but the pose is basically the same. Will do a proper write up tomorrow too once I sort out my english.

Who would you pick in a Gundam fight, Akatsuki and it's twin beam sabre or the Hyaku Shiki and the Hyper Beam Javelin?
When did the Hyaku Shiki have a beam javelin? Hyaku Shiki just cause it's piloted by the real Char and not by Cagali or the retconned Char clone.
 
Take this with a huge truckload of salt. And some aspirin because your heads will explode.

Tomino apparently held a Q&A yesterday.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/inuyo7/archives/46070517.html

Apparently G-Reco now takes place
500 years after Turn A.

And another source CLAIMS G-Lucifer and Moonlight Butterfly were mentioned together, implying that's really what we saw it do in the final episode.

Tomino plz

EDIT:
https://nekketsunikki.wordpress.com...co-takes-place-around-500-years-after-turn-a/
 

PhiLonius

Member
Apparently G-Reco now takes place
500 years after Turn A.

And another source CLAIMS G-Lucifer and Moonlight Butterfly were mentioned together, implying that's really what we saw it do in the final episode.

Tomino plz

EDIT:
https://nekketsunikki.wordpress.com...co-takes-place-around-500-years-after-turn-a/

Reading some of the quotes from that blog, I can't tell if he's lost his mind or just doesn't give a fuck anymore.

“Gundam shows made by other people are crap, including Origin.”

“I’m the one who gave the go sign to Imagawa to make G Gundam. It was supposed to be a breakthrough but it ended up being whatever.”

*flips table*
 

RangerBAD

Member
Was never on board with the Moonlight Butterfly resets the universe so that every Gundam is in the same universe.

"I'm 72 and I don't give a fuck" Tominoooooooooooo.
 

yami4ct

Member
I love crazy old man Tomino. I mean, never give him back complete control of the franchise, but I'm totally down to see whatever new insane thing he wants to do.

G-Reco had potential. It's a shame it went wrong like it did. Clearly Tomino isn't happy with it either.
 

PhiLonius

Member
I love crazy old man Tomino. I mean, never give him back complete control of the franchise, but I'm totally down to see whatever new insane thing he wants to do.

G-Reco had potential. It's a shame it went wrong like it did. Clearly Tomino isn't happy with it either.

I'm guessing the compilation films are going to attempt to fix some things. Whether or not that results in some more fuckery....
 
Not to be that guy, but if Tomino's little retcon holds, does that mean Perfect Pack G-Self has dethroned Turn A and X as the most powerful? Or is at least equal now?
 

yami4ct

Member
Not to be that guy, but if Tomino's little retcon holds, does that mean Perfect Pack G-Self has dethroned Turn A and X as the most powerful? Or is at least equal now?

Turn A's power isn't just the Moonlight Butterfly. It's also the nano-machines. Turn A can heal itself (and supposedly even the pilot) even if the suit is completely annihilated. I'm not sure G-Self Perfect Pack has that capability.
 
Turn A's power isn't just the Moonlight Butterfly. It's also the nano-machines. Turn A can heal itself (and supposedly even the pilot) even if the suit is completely annihilated. I'm not sure G-Self Perfect Pack has that capability.

A fair point.

Well, I'm sure the eggheads on /m/ will argue it out eventually. Should be an interesting read.

EDIT: "eggheads"? Damn you Spartan Ops.
 

Shun

Member
I'm gonna repost what I said months ago

You people don't understand. What he meant is that the story would only be understood a generation or two from now and that we wouldn't understand the struggles as they would in the future. The ones creating that struggle now, the Kokkai and the physicists. It's a social commentary and satire that generations after will look back on.

Tomino is truly a visionary in more ways than one and this remorse is only due to Bandai and Sunrise pressuring him to take the blame. I feel for his suffering. You can only do so much with a 26 episode threshold and rush production schedule with the standards set upon in today anime industry.

Bannam and Sunrise profit driven mindset after Gundam's fall from TBS after Gundam AGE is the reason for Tomino's unhappiness. Torino made do with what he had and it was great. Now the company is forcing Tomino to backtrack and revise his statements after the commercial flop that G Reco was after it failed to meet its already low expectations.

As for power ranking, the G-Self is arguably as powerful as Turn A and Turn X with how versatile it is with Perfect Pack.

G-Self not only has Gekkou Chou but it has built in I-Field, Reflector packs, a Trans Am Burst, and more. The only downfall I have for it is the photon battery power which is mitigated by the Rayhunton Code when piloted by Bellri and Aida.
 

yami4ct

Member
A fair point.

Well, I'm sure the eggheads on /m/ will argue it out eventually. Should be an interesting read.

I think the question would be if we're talking just a one-off fight or a whole war scenario. In a one-off, Turn A can lose. It's nano machines heal it slowly. In a war, though, I think it might actually be impossible to destroy it, so unless G-Self can heal or stop the nano machines, it can't win.
 

Shun

Member
I swear the main reason G Gundam wasn't as well received as it was is because it was the first non UC show.

Critically, commercially, or both?

It was a more or less Super Robot show during a period of time where Super Robo filled anime and some people wanted more Real Robo like UC Gundam.

That and it being really stupid. I don't remember Wing being critically/commercially good, or X, and not even ∀ Gundam for the time. Did any of the 90s Gundam fare well outside of EW and maybe 08th MS?

I mean I like ∀ Gundam retrospectively but I understand backlash.

I mean were any AU Gundam commercially and critically acclaim until SEED?
 

yami4ct

Member
I thought SEED was pretty big in Japan?

SEED is freaking massive. It's possibly the biggest gundam out there besides maybe UC. I think Shun was saying AU was pretty unsuccessful before SEED, which I think is right. I also think F91 and Victory were flops, so it's not like UC was fairing better.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
G Gundam is honestly the best written Gundam series of the 90's despite being silly and super robot. The characters are surprisingly deep for the genre, the emotion is on point, the twists and turns are soap operatic but well done.
 

yami4ct

Member
G Gundam is honestly the best written Gundam series of the 90's despite being silly and super robot. The characters are surprisingly deep for the genre, the emotion is on point, the twists and turns are soap operatic but well done.

Having watched G fairly recently, I can't say I agree. I love the show for how big and dumb it is, but the writing isn't anything special. A bunch of pretty standard character tropes with shallow and predictable arcs and a hugely melodramatic plot. The show gets by on being a ton of fun, but it isn't much more than that.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
Having watched G fairly recently, I can't say I agree. I love the show for how big and dumb it is, but the writing isn't anything special. A bunch of pretty standard character tropes with shallow and predictable arcs and a hugely melodramatic plot. The show gets by on being a ton of fun, but it isn't much more than that.

Yes, but...look at the rest of 90's Gundam Series.
 

yami4ct

Member
Yes, but...look at the rest of 90's Gundam Series.

No, I agree on that front. Gundam was terrible at the time, especially stuff like Wing and Victory. Turn A is still far more interesting from a plot perspective and I think X's characters have a bit more depth to them in a way that isn't as standard as G. Wing is a mess on all fronts.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
I've watched X and Turn A recently a G blows both of them out of the water from a character and plot cohesion point of view. G is a tightly constructed Gundam show. All thriller, no filler.
 

yami4ct

Member
I've watched X and Turn A recently a G blows both of them out of the water from a character and plot cohesion point of view. G is a tightly constructed Gundam show. All thriller, no filler.

Except that at least 50% of G is pretty boring filler. The entirety of the Gundam Fight is constructed to be filler while they deal the real plot out more slowly.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, as if plot is what you're judging on, than I think G is kind of shitty. Turn A is a much more interesting show on that front.
 

Shun

Member
SEED is freaking massive. It's possibly the biggest gundam out there besides maybe UC. I think Shun was saying AU was pretty unsuccessful before SEED, which I think is right. I also think F91 and Victory were flops, so it's not like UC was fairing better.

Yes that is what I meant pardon my English, AU was not as successful as UC until SEED.

That said UC was in an okay place because of stuff like 08th MS, Gundam Sentinel and other things too boost popularity compared to the Post UC stuff in F91 and Victory. UC for the most part was doing okay based on all the merchandise and continuation.

AU did not have the benefit of that and were judged on their own merits. The only commercially successful AU until SEED was Eternal Waltz because of Katoki modifying Okawara's designs.
 

Shun

Member
Bandai MG Hyaku-Shiki 2.0 and Dragon Momoko MG Akatsuki Gundam comparison and review.


A few members were on the fence on whether or not to get these kits so I went ahead and took the plunge to see how good Bandai and Taiwanese Dragon Momoko did gold finish Gunpla.

Gold Finish

Both the Dragon Momoko Akatsuki and the Bandai Hyaku Shiki 2.0 are very visually pleasing gold finished kits. However despite being both gold finish, they are achieved in different ways.

The Dragon Momoko Akatsuki is a two tone gold Gunpla with a traditional gold finish throughout the suit and with orange-gold accents in the shoulder armour, vents, and wrist guard. It seems to be injected and painted with a color similar to Tamiya Gold Leaf. The underlying piece is a yellowish gold plastic. The gold finish is VERY durable and you won't ruin the gold finish unless you slice it with a knife. I was touching the pieces and the gold with all my strength while building and the piece didn't break or scratch off. The Akatsuki Gold for the most part is pretty even and the colors are on point. The gold runners make up 2/3s of the kit and you get double the gold runners as the Hyaku Shiki due to the Oowashi and Shiranui packs it comes with.

The Bandai Hyaku Shiki 2.0 is a gold plated kit that is achieved through a plated finish over the part. Unlike the Akatsuki, the finish is achieved through a chrome/silver plating and sprayed with clear yellow and a lot of gloss coat to seal in the gold. Due to this, the gold finish is a little more prone to scratches than the Akatsuki and there are some uneven areas where it looks slightly more chrome than champagne gold. Overall once the suit is built it isn't that noticeable at all due to how light reflects off the glossy surface. I would recommend gloss coating the gold runners in Future or Mr. Hobby Gloss coat before building the kit so that you can retain as good of a finish as possible. There are 3 large gold runners that come with the suit.

Color Separation
The Gold, red, and grey are separated very nicely on both suits and both have very good color separation with very little need to panel line or extra paint detailing. Parts that need to be panel lined are the red pieces for both suits such as the vents.

You do get black foil stickers for added depth in some places like the wings and maybe parts of the legs but I don't find some of the stickers entirely necessary.

The colors have a nice contrast and the red and grey pieces do not look cheap. It works well in my opinion and both companies do enough to keep it flashy while not being garish.


Articulation
Both kits can fully bend their arms and legs and maintain their positions. You'll be able to move all four limbs forward, back, side to side, and rotate them 360 degrees.

The large shoulders on both kits do not get in the way of posing and do a good job of getting out of the way. The Akatsuki shoulder is similar to other Strike models but with added flexibility. The Hyaku Shiki Shoulder armour is actually clipped on after attaching the arm so you won't have to place it in between the shoulder and the peg.

The Akatsuki, due to how it is designed, is a stiff kit in the sense that you won't have loose joints at all. If you pose with a beam rifle, saber, shield, anything this Akatsuki will hold it up in place and won't sag. The only area of issue are the weak ankles which pop out occasionally. This can be fixed by painting the ball joint for the foot and ankle so that the joint is stiffer. A minor issue as the rest of the kit stays put.

The Hyaku Shiki has no loose ankles or hands at all. Both kits have no issue with fully extending their arms and holding their weapons.

The hands on the Hyaku Shiki are fully articulate and are much better than the MG Sazabi Ver Ka, Unicorn, and Nu Ver Ka. These are the best hands in terms of build in my opinion due to how sturdy and flexible the hand is. I hope most MGs get these type of hands in the future.

The Akatsuki comes with both articulate and premoulded hands. The premolded hands are way better than Bandai's and are amazing. They are double jointed hands and they hold all your weapons with no issue. You get 4 sets of premolded hands to use with the kit: holding, trigger, fist, and open hand. The articulate hands are the same articulate hands you see on most 3rd party kits. These are fucking crap if you screw up making them. It's so easy to lose a piece or accidentally break a finger while rotating them because the ball joints on these hands are TOO stiff. They would be great if you were successful in building them but I had the unfortunate event of breaking a thumb on one and an index finger on another. I wish I could use them but I can't. Thankfully I have 8 other hands to use with this kit.

The waist on the Hyaku Shiki 2.0 can rotate 360 degrees and it is able to bend back and forth, side to side. The Akatsuki is a little bit more stiff and has some trouble rotating it's torso because of the armour. If you built an MG Strike or GATX suit, it's the same thing there.

Head on the Hyaku Shiki 2.0 is double jointed and can move 360. The Akatsuki is double jointed but can't move it's head much due to how big the head is. It will have some trouble looking down but can look up easily and slightly move head side to side.


Without the backpacks
-When those wing binders and packs are off, both of these kits are some of the most articulate kits I have built. The Akatsuki is based off the Strike frame so it retains all of the posability despite it's taller size and larger shoulders.


Backpacks on

-With the packs equipped, both kits become back heavy. The Hyaku Shiki slightly heavier while the Akatsuki is much more back heavy. Both kits can stand on their own with their packs equipped but the Akatsuki definitely has a harder time standing without an action base when equipped with the Oowashi pack and especially the Shiranui pack. With the packs on, you should use your beam rifle to act as a counterweight to help balance the kit.

The Oowashi pack is similar to the the Ootori pack on the Strike Rouge and the pack is able to fully move and extend it's wings. It has added railguns on ball joints and overall the kit is

You don't need an action base for both kits but to get the most out of posing, I recommend getting an Action Base 1 so that you can make full use of the kit articulation.

Accessories

The Hyaku Shiki 2.0 and the Akatsuki are given quite extras that justify it's higher price in comparison to other MG kits.

The Hyaku Shiki comes with a beam rifle, clay bazooka, and 2 beam sabers.. You get 2 3 extra eye pieces to put in front of the Hyaku Shiki's standard Gundam eyes. You get one for the Gundam eyes, one for a scanline effect, and one for Quattro's sunglasses look. You will have some leftover pieces, namely an extra ammo pack, extra Char figures, and an extra antenna for the head. You will also get optional pieces for the P-Bandai Ballute System.

The Hyaku Shiki 2.0 comes with your standard MG foil sticker, clear seals, and dry transfer decal.

The Akatsuki comes with BOTH the Oowashi and Shiranui backpacks. the Oowashi is your standard striker pack with railguns and missile pods. The Shiranui is the space pack equipped with 7 dragoons/funnels and is roughly 1.5x the size of the Oowashi. The weapons consist of two beam sabres which can combine to make a twin beam sabre, a beam rifle, a cool ass shield that blows the boring Strike shield out of the water. You are also able to attach the twin beam sabre to the beam rifle and give it a beam bayonet similar to the Unicorn Banshee.

The beam effect parts are not your standard beam effects that bandai gives. You get 7 beam effect parts to attach to the beam sabers. These beam effects are HUGE and you get short ones, long ones, motion ones, and a bayonet part.

You will have plenty of extra parts such as extra hands, extra armour piece, a shit ton of extra PCB parts you can use in case you lose some for other kits, and it comes with a foil sticker sheet and a full set of waterslide decals. Water freaking slide decals.

As mentioned earlier, if you have a Strike Rouge you will be able to combine backpacks with the Strike Rouge Ootori pack and create a bigger, over the top, Striker pack. If you don't have one you'll have to make do and find a way to display your extra backpack.

Ease of Build and Quality
Both gunpla kits are solid and I don't see any issues with breaking pieces or bad plastic quality. These kits are as good as you make it though. You will need to take your time building it so that it looks as good as possible. The nub marks and issues will only be worse if you rush through the model.

The Hyaku Shiki is your standard MG, straightforward build in that it is very easy and streamlined. The plastic is up to standard and overall the build was a very fun build. Most of the kits are undergated but not all of them.

The Akatsuki in particular surprised me with how solid the pieces and build was to the point where I could say that sometimes the kit feels a little TOO durable. Almost every piece in this kit is undergated, even the non-gold parts. Dragon Momoko did a great job in this aspect and I wish Bandai undergated all their pieces too.

Almost all the pieces are without any defects at all and are almost Bandai quality with how durable the finish and plastic is. The plastic quality is good and durable and it might be a little harder cutting out pieces because the plastic Dragon Momoko used isn't as soft as Bandai's. The plastic is pretty hard but not brittle. The biggest issues are with building the head and snap fitting.

The head's issue is that the eyepiece is molded improperly so you will have to sand the eyepiece down so that it will fit into the head itself. You will have to sand this part so that it will fit at all. The rest of the head is straightforward but due to the gold finish you will need to use a SHIT TON of force to snap fit together unless you sand some of the gold finish off the connecting pegs.

That brings me to the snap fitting. HOLY FUCKING SHIT This kit requires a fucking ton of force to snap fit together without lightly sanding connection parts. I say LIGHTLY sanding because if you do too much it will become loose. Sand only a little of the gold off. The non gold parts are a tight snap fit and it isn't a big issue but the gold pieces were hell on my thumbs.

Without lightly sanding first, snap fitting gold pieces together required almost every ounce of strength I had in my thumbs to put snap them together. Building some parts like the base of the Shiranui pack and the head and what not were hell on my thumbs. I had to push in 3-5 times with all the strength in my thumbs to get them to fit and snap together. By the end of this fucking build I felt like I either broken my thumbs, burnt my thumbs, or the skin was entire peeled off my thumbs. It HURT and it was because I was a dumbass for not sanding some parts first. The parts are strong so you won't be breaking them if you're using all your force.

This is what I meant from being TOO durable. Like you would think that this Taiwanese company would have shitty quality plastic but no it's too strong and tight. It makes it a fucking pain to snap fit together the gold finish parts and to take them apart if you made a mistake. Good thing is that once this is built, this thing won't be breaking and will be damn stable. Like if I didn't break a piece trying to force it in, you won't be breaking it building after sanding. Make your life easier and sand some pieces. Please.

Parts that you need to LIGHTLY sand so you don't murder your hands. Please sand it lightly.

Eyepiece
Grey peg for beam sabre
Connection pegs for the fucking Shiranui pack

If it feels too hard to snap it, go lightly sand and don't try to force it like I did. Not every piece has to sand, only the ones above are a must sand. Everything else use you own discretion so you don't hurt yourself. Other than being tight, these parts fit in well and other than the eye piece you won't have any pieces not fitting at all. Once you forcibly snap fit, everything is in perfect.

Other than that this kit is good quality and SOLID. Just some small quality control issues that will be fixed through light sanding.

Gloss coat to protect the gold finish while you build. The gold finish is pretty strong either way but it doesn't hurt to give it an extra layer of protection.

Bad nubs

Due to being a gold finish kit, you will have some bad nubs. Thankfully most of the kit is UNDERGATED so your bad nubs are at an absolute minimum. You won't notice them at a distance and if you are really good at cutting and clean up, you won't be able to see the stray black nubs at all.

For the Hyaku Shiki, you will have some small nub marks on the wing binders, the beam sabres, and the antenna. The rest of the nubs are in some of the armour pieces are very minimal. Bandai has done an extremely good job on the nubs on this piece and clean up is a breeze compared to MG Full Armor Unicorn.

The Akatsuki will have some slight nub marks on the ankle, back of the V-fin, some wings, and some armour parts . These are very small nub marks and are for the most part unnoticeable especially if you do a good job taking your time cutting your pieces.

The nubs on the Akatsuki is less noticeable than the Hyaku Shiki but it isn't an issue either way.

Seam lines are not a big issue for me but you might notice some on both kits if you're bothered by them. They are a little noticeable due to the gold finish and the worst seam lines are in the Dragoons on the Shiranui pack.

Final Thoughts

Would I recommend both kits? I would definitely recommend both kits as both are about 55-60 USD shipped and are worth that value. However I would recommend these kits for people who are comfortable building MG kits with the gold finish of both kits. The Hyaku Shiki is much easier and much more streamlined to build than the third party Akatsuki Gundam. Would I say these kits are must haves? Well they are if you are a fan of the Hyaku Shiki and Akatsuki. The Akatsuki is a definite recommend despite the shortcomings and it is a great first third party kit. You might want to paint some non gold parts but overall both kits are gorgeous as straight out of the box builds. You might only need to just gloss coat the kit and paint some accent parts like the red and grey parts like the weapons.

However if you plan on repainting the kit and putting real work into filling in seam lines, removing EVERY nub marks, etc. you will have to put a lot of time into the kit stripping off the paint, filling in seams, and repainting your kit. It will be a very long project if you plan on doing these things.

If I were to give the kit a rating, the Hyaku Shiki 2.0 is an extremely good kit, a must have and I would say a solid 95/100.

The Akatsuki would be an 80/100 or a 90/100 for me depending on if you go in blind like I did or if you go in knowing what you're doing after reading a review. I would definitely recommend this kit for anyone who has an interest in it and it is a bit better than some Bandai kits. You'll need to do a bit of work sanding some parts for this kit so that pieces are easier to snap fit but overall it is great. I hope Bandai does make an MG of this kit and I would love building this again with Bandai's quality and streamlined builds.

I would definitely check out more of Dragon Momoko's gunpla as they are as close as you get to Bandai for a third party. Other kits they offer are the Sword Strike, Launcher Strike, Tallgeese III. They are also building a Destiny Gundam based on the Metal Build Destiny so if you want those spiky wings, go for that when they release it.
 

yami4ct

Member
The Akatsuki sounds amazing. Did you get that directly from Dragon or is there another shop selling it for a better price? Definitely interested in grabbing it at some point. I love that design and it doesn't seem like Bandai themselves is ever going to give us a MG for it.
 

Shun

Member
The Akatsuki sounds amazing. Did you get that directly from Dragon or is there another shop selling it for a better price? Definitely interested in grabbing it at some point. I love that design and it doesn't seem like Bandai themselves is ever going to give us a MG for it.

Samueldecal hooked me up for $54 preordered. I don't know if he has any left so email away. $34 + shipping.

The second cheapest option is Gundam Central. The site seems sketch but my friend ordered one there and got his Akatsuki in 6 days from China? So it's $62 shipped with tracking.

The Akatsuki had 2 waves of orders so far, I was in the second wave. I'd say order when you can because I don't know if Dragon Momoko will continue long prints for it. If you do get it, sanding will be your best friend and it is more than worth it despite the issues.

Also for anyone ordering Altron from samueldecal, they saw your emails and preparing invoice soon. I got an early one because my housemate is a long customer with him.

Be patient and they'll reply soon they just got a very large request.

$48 + 20-40 dollars shipping depending on where you are.
 

yami4ct

Member
Samueldecal hooked me up for $54 preordered. I don't know if he has any left so email away. $34 + shipping.

The second cheapest option is Gundam Central. The site seems sketch but my friend ordered one there and got his Akatsuki in 6 days from China? So it's $62 shipped with tracking.

The Akatsuki had 2 waves of orders so far, I was in the second wave. I'd say order when you can because I don't know if Dragon Momoko will continue long prints for it. If you do get it, sanding will be your best friend and it is more than worth it despite the issues.

I'll drop him a line. I really want an Akatsuki model, so I probably shouldn't sleep on this one like I did the conversion kit. Thanks for the review!
 
Altron order cancelled :(

Hopefully I can find one later. Good news is I might be going to the Gundam motherland, hence the cancel dream gunpla. Saving money is a horrible thing lol.
 

Toxi

Banned
Was never on board with the Moonlight Butterfly resets the universe so that every Gundam is in the same universe.

"I'm 72 and I don't give a fuck" Tominoooooooooooo.
Moonlight Butterfly didn't reset the universe. It just marked the end of the Dark History that was comprised of other Gundam series.
I've watched X and Turn A recently a G blows both of them out of the water from a character and plot cohesion point of view. G is a tightly constructed Gundam show. All thriller, no filler.
what

I finished G Gundam recently. It's a great show. It also has plenty of filler. How can you not consider an episode like the one with Chico filler? Or the one where the idiot kid accidentally injures Domon. Hell, even one of my favorite episodes (Chibodee Crocket vs his fear of clowns) is pure filler that just happens to be amazing filler.

Also, from a character perspective Turn A easily wins, because Turn A is an extremely character-driven show. G has plenty of odd character moments that don't work at all, like Domon's bizarre fear of losing against Zeus Gundam in that one episode. It's saved by the whole thing being really silly and fun and the strong character moments being really memorable.
 

putermcgee

Junior Member
Stop me if this isn't a good place to talk about it, but does anyone play TryAge? I originally bought a pack of random cards a while back just to look at the art and stuff, but then got completely sucked into the actual game. I now have a box of 500+ cards, and an ever-changing main deck. And as my collection increases, I find myself buying different variations of the same MS just for collecting, not using.

Besides the arcade game and real cards, I also have the 3DS version. It's fun, and way cheaper(!), but it's a bit outdated now. I think the cards only go up to the B8 series, which is still 2014, but they've gone pretty far beyond that in the arcades.
 
Stop me if this isn't a good place to talk about it, but does anyone play TryAge? I originally bought a pack of random cards a while back just to look at the art and stuff, but then got completely sucked into the actual game. I now have a box of 500+ cards, and an ever-changing main deck. And as my collection increases, I find myself buying different variations of the same MS just for collecting, not using.

Besides the arcade game and real cards, I also have the 3DS version. It's fun, and way cheaper(!), but it's a bit outdated now. I think the cards only go up to the B8 series, which is still 2014, but they've gone pretty far beyond that in the arcades.

I don't live in Japan, so no. I do have some cards I got when I was there last year and played a couple times. It was fine.
 

yami4ct

Member
Samueldecal hooked me up for $54 preordered. I don't know if he has any left so email away. $34 + shipping.

The second cheapest option is Gundam Central. The site seems sketch but my friend ordered one there and got his Akatsuki in 6 days from China? So it's $62 shipped with tracking.

The Akatsuki had 2 waves of orders so far, I was in the second wave. I'd say order when you can because I don't know if Dragon Momoko will continue long prints for it. If you do get it, sanding will be your best friend and it is more than worth it despite the issues.

Just one quick question I forgot to ask. Does the DM Akatsuki have an opening cockpit and does it come with a pilot? Those two aspects are always the coolest aspects of Gunpla to me and I haven't seen reviewers mention them. It looks like it does, but I want to make sure. Not a deal breaker, but it's a feature I really enjoy.
 

Shun

Member
Just one quick question I forgot to ask. Does the DM Akatsuki have an opening cockpit and does it come with a pilot? Those two aspects are always the coolest aspects of Gunpla to me and I haven't seen reviewers mention them. It looks like it does, but I want to make sure. Not a deal breaker, but it's a feature I really enjoy.

No pilot but it comes with the movable cockpit. Since I have the MG Hyaku Shiki 2.0 with extra pilots I can probably throw Char in there and call it a day.
 

yami4ct

Member
No pilot but it comes with the movable cockpit. Since I have the MG Hyaku Shiki 2.0 with extra pilots I can probably throw Char in there and call it a day.

Would've appreciated just a generic normal suit pilot, but as long as the cockpit opens that's good enough.
 

beat

Member
Also, I haven't been keeping up with Gunpla for years now. What the hell is P-Bandai? I mean, I get that it's premium, but are they variants, or are they really making completely new molds exclusively for P-Bandai?
 

Enron

Banned
Also, I haven't been keeping up with Gunpla for years now. What the hell is P-Bandai? I mean, I get that it's premium, but are they variants, or are they really making completely new molds exclusively for P-Bandai?

Basically, it's a bandai web exclusive. only available from their site. Could be variants, effects parts, or whole kits (like MG Banshee Norn, for instance).
 
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