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[Beth Cyra]

You're talking about Seed and Wing with this right? I'll admit I haven't seen either one of those completely, but in Wing at least isn't Heero the only one who's capable in a hand to hand fight? I don't know much about the other protagonists but they don't seem to be that combat saavy outside their suits, though like I said I haven't really watched it.

Also, even while true that these other two series places an importance on the physical power of the protagonist, these three are vastly outnumbered by the series that do not place that sort of significance for the pilots. Especially in basically all of the UC shows.

Wufei has significant hand to hand combat skills as well and they all are trained.

However yes, as a whole out of the Main 5 Heero is the only one, but they take it so far with him they go into genetics, clones and Gene splicing so he is pretty much minor levels of super human, so calling him just capable is like giving Domon the designation of capable.

Also you'really right these three are in a minority but your original post said that it was only G which isn't true, even if G focuses on it more so I just wanted to point it out that we do have some leads who are physical crazy as well as pilot stuff.

 

[PhiLonius]

I'm loving all the responses to the original question, but I feel like I have to bring it back with a more cohesive setup. Keeping the fight within the cockpit for starts.

Also:

Who's in/out? (Do we consider just Heero/Setsuna from their respective shows or their entire team?

Spoiler

This way we save Quatre from eventual jobber status.

)

Which suit does each character use if they've had multiples?

Are these fights out in space or on land?

Are there restrictions in place for some of the more obviously overpowered suits?

 

[Shun]

Open it to any mobile suit pilot with their most recent upgrade to keep the power scale in check. You're not gonna have Kira pilot the Strike and say he beats Nu with the Strike.

It would have to be space because due to gravity, funnels, dragoons, and psycommu weaponry don't function on Earth.

So that means no FAUC, no Strike Freedom, no Sazabi, Kshatriya, etc... if it were on Earth.

Assume that land suits are retrofitted to work in space.

Restrictions would be something like they're bound by the rules of their universe such as SEED mode being subconsciously activated and for short period of time, NT-D functions for a period of time, most mobile suits are powered by battery unless specifically said not to.

No matter how powerful a suit is it isn't omnipotent and it has restrictions, just assuming that the anime makes 5 minutes stretched to 24 minutes.

Turn A and Turn X at it's peak don't count and you need to take into account that in a fight setting, Turn A and Turn X would not have the energy saved up nor the time to use their regeneration or Gekkou Chou. Turn A can still however hold nuclear bombs in it's chest cavity.

G-Self is battery powered but that is remedied by Rayhunton Code so that's the major flaw it has.

 

[Ezalc]

I'm loving all the responses to the original question, but I feel like I have to bring it back with a more cohesive setup. Keeping the fight within the cockpit for starts.

Also:

Who's in/out? (Do we consider just Heero/Setsuna from their respective shows or their entire team?

Spoiler

This way we save Quatre from eventual jobber status.

)

Which suit does each character use if they've had multiples?

Are these fights out in space or on land?

Are there restrictions in place for some of the more obviously overpowered suits?

-Only the protagonist
-Their most recent suit in their respective shows, so no movies or manga. OVA is allowed.
-Space only is unfair to me. If some suits have weapons that don't work on earth and others don't work as well in space why should the ones with the space weapons get the advantage?
-Must consider the pilot's actions in the fight, such as when somebody said how Lorran wouldn't kill unless it was the last thing he could do. Also take into consideration piloting skill level to offset possible suit differences.

 

[Shun]

It should be space only because unless you're piloting a Hildolfr chances are you will fare as well or better in space combat. Just throw on a vernier or use Build Fighters logic for your G Gundam suits.

The strongest suits in the series function best in space. Conventional weaponry still work in space as evident by the original UC series and their Clay Bazooka.

In the case of Master and God Gundam, just use Build Fighters or Epyon as some example as to how effective you can be in space while being almost exclusively a hand to hand suit.

Protagonist only as well as anime only would just limit what we have to work with since we are objectively trying to find out who would win out in a mobile suit fight.

Not saying that your jobber Leo should fight but other suits are just as strong as evident by the Red/Blue Frame and other Cosmic Era suits. We would also limit us from using Penelope and Ex-S Gundam as examples.

 

[Beth Cyra]

-Only the protagonist
-Their most recent suit in their respective shows, so no movies or manga. OVA is allowed.
-Space only is unfair to me. If some suits have weapons that don't work on earth and others don't work as well in space why should the ones with the space weapons get the advantage?
-Must consider the pilot's actions in the fight, such as when somebody said how Lorran wouldn't kill unless it was the last thing he could do. Also take into consideration piloting skill level to offset possible suit differences.

Movies must be allowed.

Amuro's Nu and Setsuna OOq are no different then Wing Zero EW and Strike Freedom because Endless Waltz and Destiny are as much a sequel as Chars Counter Attack and Awakening of a Trailblazer

 

[PhiLonius]

If we keep it to the things that have been animated (series, ova's, and movies) and the main protagonist/s in each, the definite locks and their respective suits so far would be:

Amuro - Nu
Char - Sazabi (He's a big enough character and now has The Origin to warrant a spot)
Shiro - Ez8
Kamille - Zeta
Judau - ZZ
Christina - Alex
Kou - GP03
Banagher - Unicorn
Seabook - F91
Uso - V2
Domon - God
Heero - Wing Zero EW
Garrod - DX
Loran - Turn A
Kira - Strike Freedom
Athrun - Infinite Justice
Shinn - Destiny
Sven - Strike Noir
Setsuna - 00 Qan[T]
Flit - AGE 1
Asemu - AGE 2 Dark Hound
Kio - AGE FX
Bellri - G Self

There are a few shows where multiple characters pop up and I look at those characters as co-leads.

There are also a few characters I want to get in (Zechs) but keeping with the protag/s only rule, they don't make it. Build Fighters and Gunpla Builders aren't 'real' so they don't make the cut either.

 

[Beth Cyra]

If we keep it to the things that have been animated (series, ova's, and movies) and the main protagonist/s in each, the definite locks and their respective suits so far would be:

Amuro - Nu
Char - Sazabi (He's a big enough character and now has The Origin to warrant a spot)
Shiro - Ez8
Kamille - Zeta
Judau - ZZ
Christina - Alex
Kou - GP03
Banagher - Unicorn
Seabook - F91
Uso - V2
Domon - God
Heero - Wing Zero EW
Garrod - DX
Loran - Turn A
Kira - Strike Freedom
Athrun - Infinite Justice
Shinn - Destiny
Sven - Strike Noir
Setsuna - 00 Qan[T]
Flit - AGE 1
Asemu - AGE 2 Dark Hound
Kio - AGE FX
Bellri - G Self

There are a few shows where multiple characters pop up and I look at those characters as co-leads.

There are also a few characters I want to get in (Zechs) but keeping with the protag/s only rule, they don't make it. Build Fighters and Gunpla Builders aren't 'real' so they don't make the cut either.

Look as much as we can debate who the lead of Destiny is, if we are doing pro tags then we need to limit it to one.

Destiny is not AGE and it was not meant to have three leads.

If we are doing that then we might as well say that Duo is the lead of Wing because Heero was hurt and did nothing for like a month.

I don't care who we choose, but I'd say it's closer to Destiny give the Gundam 25ft video it shows Destiny and NOT Strike Freedom. Or we drop Destiny and do Strike Freedom

Also Char should not count, or if he does then he needs to Stick with Zaku II, he is not the lead of anything else so taking those suits from him doesn't make sense.

Having all these extra's defeats the purpose of Protags only and anime only. Grey areas are coming in, and this is why these things never work.

We must use a frame work and stay with in that frame work.

 

[JadedWriter]

Wufei has significant hand to hand combat skills as well and they all are trained.

However yes, as a whole out of the Main 5 Heero is the only one, but they take it so far with him they go into genetics, clones and Gene splicing so he is pretty much minor levels of super human, so calling him just capable is like giving Domon the designation of capable.

Also you'really right these three are in a minority but your original post said that it was only G which isn't true, even if G focuses on it more so I just wanted to point it out that we do have some leads who are physical crazy as well as pilot stuff.

Why does everybody act like Wufei was a chump? I honestly considered him the best of the non hax Wing pilots.

 

[Valkerionseven]

Only liked Wufei after Endless Waltz, boring ass movie but worth it to see him body the wing zero once, and heero twice.

I randomly pop the dvd in and skip to the Altron parts every few years lol.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Only liked Wufei after Endless Waltz, boring ass movie but worth it to see him body the wing zero once, and heero twice.

I randomly pop the dvd in and skip to the Altron parts every few years lol.

Body Zero?

Neither Heero or Zero actually engage in that fight.

Also that Gif speaks way higher to Heero's skill doing that in a Leo compared of the tricked out Altron.

 

[JadedWriter]

Body Zero?

Neither Heero or Zero actually engage in that fight.

Also that Gif speaks way higher to Heero's skill doing that in a Leo compared of the tricked out Altron.

If you rewatch Wing and compare how the rest of the Wing pilots with how they respond to the Zero system initially and fighting the suit itself I honestly think Wufei handled it the best. Zechs couldn't even body Wufei in the Altron when he did fight Wufei in it, granted it wasn't a long fight cause Zechs flipped out piloting it. I also really don't like how Wing Zero is so dependent on the Zero System. It's nothing more than an instant win button so seeing him not clean Wufei's clock without using the Zero System shows that Wufei actually had some legit piloting skills. Regarding the Leo suit Zechs shot down the Wing Gundam in space in the very first episode, the Leo isn't a trashy E tier grunt suit, none of the Wing grunt suits are trash tier.

 

[Beth Cyra]

If you rewatch Wing and compare how the rest of the Wing pilots with how they respond to the Zero system initially and fighting the suit itself I honestly think Wufei handled it the best. Zechs couldn't even body Wufei in the Altron when he did fight Wufei in it, granted it wasn't a long fight cause Zechs flipped out piloting it. I also really don't like how Wing Zero is so dependent on the Zero System. It's nothing more than an instant win button so seeing him not clean Wufei's clock without using the Zero System shows that Wufei actually had some legit piloting skills. Regarding the Leo suit Zechs shot down the Wing Gundam in space in the very first episode, the Leo isn't a trashy E tier grunt suit, none of the Wing grunt suits are trash tier.

I agree with everything you mentioned regarding Wufei.

Granted I loath Wufei with a passion, but he is easily ranked third or fourth behind Heero, Zechs, and possibly Treize depending on how you rank him.

Altron is also the single best equipped Gundam in Wing including the Zero.

I don't think Zero System is auto win, itso stress on the mind, body and the overall demands it takes are certainly draw backs.

That said Wufei is legit, he was originally meant to be a new type and while that got moved over to Qautra he still would dominate alot of pilots.

 

[JadedWriter]

I agree with everything you mentioned regarding Wufei.

Granted I loath Wufei with a passion, but he is easily ranked third or fourth behind Heero, Zechs, and possibly Treize depending on how you rank him.

Altron is also the single best equipped Gundam in Wing including the Zero.

I don't think Zero System is auto win, itso stress on the mind, body and the overall demands it takes are certainly draw backs.

That said Wufei is legit, he was originally meant to be a new type and while that got moved over to Qautra he still would dominate alot of pilots.

Why does everybody hate the guy? The guy isn't "sexist" just a bit arrogant. I've never really viewed him as women since he doesn't hate women, just doesn't want to see another woman die in a battlefield like his wife did, unless I'm misinterpreting the guy. And yeah dude's legit and he actually believed in fighting fair. He handicapped himself in both his battles with Treize. I'd rather fight him than Heero whom would probably bomb my car as I'm driving to the battlefield...granted he did bomb Noin's recruit dorm, though I swear that must have been part of the mission. Altron was legit too, thing was a fucking close range monster and deadly from medium and long range as well, dude made his fights look stylish. Altron was pretty quick too, I honestly think he could've fought anybody in Altron and make it close. I'd say he's tied with Treize. I don't know why people rank Duo above him.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Why does everybody hate the guy? The guy isn't "sexist" just a bit arrogant. I've never really viewed him as women since he doesn't hate women, just doesn't want to see another woman die in a battlefield like his wife did, unless I'm misinterpreting the guy. And yeah dude's legit and he actually believed in fighting fair. He handicapped himself in both his battles with Treize. I'd rather fight him than Heero whom would probably bomb my car as I'm driving to the battlefield...granted he did bomb Noin's recruit dorm, though I swear that must have been part of the mission.

It was mission based. At that point the Gundam still needed ton be hidden.

And it's not him be sexist, it's his attitude in general, and the way he address women is terrible, or at least this lady had always been annoyed by it.

Intention isn't good enough when your an asshole.

Still I agree he has no true I'll intent and does fear another woman he loves being lost.

 

[JadedWriter]

It was mission based. At that point the Gundam still needed ton be hidden.

And it's not him be sexist, it's his attitude in general, and the way he address women is terrible, or at least this lady had always been annoyed by it.

Intention isn't good enough when your an asshole.

Still I agree he has no true I'll intent and does fear another woman he loves being lost.

Taking his age into consideration I don't know what people would expect from a 16 year old. Dude was more or less a scholar before he took up his wife's cause and from what I remember his master was a female despite them dubbing her with a male voice. Dude did respect Sally and held no ill will towards Noin either. He's just arrogant, nothing more really. Though yeah he could've been better about the whole thing, probably from the trauma of his wife dying in his arms I guess.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Taking his age into consideration I don't know what people would expect from a 16 year old. Dude was more or less a scholar before he took up his wife's cause and from what I remember his master was a female despite them dubbing her with a male voice. Dude did respect Sally and held no ill will towards Noin either. He's just arrogant, nothing more really. Though yeah he could've been better about the whole thing, probably from the trauma of his wife dying in his arms I guess.

Possibly.

Like I said I conceded he isn't sexist, still treating like shit then calling someone by their gender and acting better then them does you no favors.

 

[JadedWriter]

Possibly.

Like I said I conceded he isn't sexist, still treating like shit then calling someone by their gender and acting better then them does you no favors.

Yeah this is true. I guess I just have a tolerance for those kinds of characters. Shit Hiei is my favorite Yu Yu Hakusho character. I honestly just think it's a big ass front with Wufei, dude's almost as guard as Heero and even with the Wing guys he doesn't talk to them too much. Only really has a conversation with Treize and Heero in Endless Waltz for the most part.

 

[CBTech]

Possibly.

Like I said I conceded he isn't sexist, still treating like shit then calling someone by their gender and acting better then them does you no favors.

Yeah this is true. I guess I just have a tolerance for those kinds of characters. Shit Hiei is my favorite Yu Yu Hakusho character. I honestly just think it's a big ass front with Wufei, dude's almost as guard as Heero and even with the Wing guys he doesn't talk to them too much. Only really has a conversation with Treize and Heero in Endless Waltz for the most part.

I can't stand Wufei. Too much of an asshole with no redeeming qualities. He is definitely the worst of the 5 protagonists in Wing. Altron is also my least favorite Gundam of the 5. Then again, I think Duo was the only likable protagonist of the bunch. Trowa was ok, but he was just Heero with a hobby.

 

[Beth Cyra]

I can't stand Wufei. Too much of an asshole with no redeeming qualities. He is definitely the worst of the 5 protagonists in Wing. Altron is also my least favorite Gundam of the 5. Then again, I think Duo was the only likable protagonist of the bunch. Trowa was ok, but he was just Heero with a hobby.

I can kinda agree with this?

I liked Heero in the first three episodes, he was creepy and truly unique as far as a Gundam lead is concerned and so many good things could have came with that, but sad,y they pissed it away.

Duo was a great and like able guy and his terrible history made his current self all that much more love able.

Altron I dislike, however it is the most varied of the suits with the strongest all around load out so I can only hate on it so much.

 

[Valkerionseven]

Body Zero?

Neither Heero or Zero actually engage in that fight.

Also that Gif speaks way higher to Heero's skill doing that in a Leo compared of the tricked out Altron.

Heero was not really fighting back, just defending sure but Wufei still more or less was the reason Zero fell apart at the end. Least that's the way I saw it since Altron got some decent hits on the thing along with falling to earth suddenly. As for the gif, right after that the arm gets cut off and the cockpit slashed open haha.

That aside though, one gripe about Altron in the tv series was the flamethrower. On earth, sure, makes sense. When it used in space..... Guess that's why it only did it like once and was removed for Endless Waltz.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Altron I dislike, however it is the most varied of the suits with the strongest all around load out so I can only hate on it so much.

Really? What makes it so much stronger than the other powerful units seen in Wing?

That aside though, one gripe about Altron in the tv series was the flamethrower. On earth, sure, makes sense. When it used in space..... Guess that's why it only did it like once and was removed for Endless Waltz.

Overall it was such a strange weapon.

 

[JadedWriter]

Really? What makes it so much stronger than the other powerful units seen in Wing?

It's unsafe to attack from any distance. Close in get rekt cause it probably has the best close range weapon that wasn't the beam sword from Epyon. Medium range get rekt by the dragon claws or flamethrower. Longer range, get rekt by the twin scorpion tale cannon. Any of the other suits mostly relied on a gimmick with limited ammo or a small set of missiles for close range, heavy arms was practically useless once it ran out of ammo. Sandrock was decent close in, but I felt even from that it's too slow to really match Altron. Death scythe was the next best in that regard in my opinion but I don't think the scythe had a large enough attack flow if that makes any kind of sense, the attacks seemed to be mostly horizontal or vertical. Long range it shot its shield at you and I'm not even sure if Hell kept the missiles. Wing Zero was just a typical protag suit, large cannon and beam saber...shoulder vulcans helped though twin buster was the only thing that gave it an edge weapons wise though. Pretty much you have to be on your A game or he has to handicap himself like he did with Treize to really not get fucked up by Altron. Even Zechs in his brief fight wasn't expecting that stiff of a challenge from Altron. Meanwhile when Duo fought it with some random pilot in it he almost got his head crushed.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Really? What makes it so much stronger than the other powerful units seen in Wing?



Overall it was such a strange weapon.

It's because it actually has weaponry that I strong for each category.

The beam trident for the Melee, Dragon Fanf for Mid Rannge, serpent Sting for long range and a shield.

All other gundams are strongly lacking in terms of variety or one area or another.

Zero has a saber and the Twin Buster but little else.

Heavy arms has zero real close range effectiveness

Sandrock is worthless at range

Death scythe has zero range outside of Buster Shield which is single use.

 

[Man God]

Treize isn't that good of a mobile suit pilot. He pretty much admits it.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Treize isn't that good of a mobile suit pilot. He pretty much admits it.

Treize is great and he shows it in the firpght with the mobile dolls, and against at WuFei he holds up well.

 

[JadedWriter]

Treize isn't that good of a mobile suit pilot. He pretty much admits it.

I thought what Treize admitted was that Epyon couldn't show him a path?

Treize is great and he shows it in the firpght with the mobile dolls, and against at WuFei he holds up well.

I don't even think Wufei wanted to win that battle and he handicapped himself during the fight, he only used his beam trident. I think they mainly just saw the fight as a fight between their ideals to be honest.

 

[PhiLonius]

Look as much as we can debate who the lead of Destiny is, if we are doing pro tags then we need to limit it to one.

Destiny is not AGE and it was not meant to have three leads.

If we are doing that then we might as well say that Duo is the lead of Wing because Heero was hurt and did nothing for like a month.

I don't care who we choose, but I'd say it's closer to Destiny give the Gundam 25ft video it shows Destiny and NOT Strike Freedom. Or we drop Destiny and do Strike Freedom

Also Char should not count, or if he does then he needs to Stick with Zaku II, he is not the lead of anything else so taking those suits from him doesn't make sense.

Having all these extra's defeats the purpose of Protags only and anime only. Grey areas are coming in, and this is why these things never work.

We must use a frame work and stay with in that frame work.

I mostly can't stand Shinn and I've never been much a fan of Athrun, but I feel they are much closer to being the leads of their show than the other guys in Wing or 00.
I stuck with Heero and Setsuna because they are far more at the forefront than the rest of their team.
The rest are the main protags/pilots of their respective series/movie/OVA. Christina is sort of a grey area here though.

I also feel like it would be sacrilege to leave Char off.

As for the suits of each, I went with whatever each character used last.

All this is still up for debate though.

 

[Shun]

I thought that conversation was about which character and suit would win in a real time battle situation (　´，_ゝ&#65344

Why don't we discuss Gundam designs and what your preferences are in your ideal gundam.

Things like preferred eye/sensor colors, with or without face vents, v-fin design and colors, traditional anime hero colors (red, blue, yellow, white) or unconventional, etc.

Melee focus, shield or no shield, backpack/wing binders/thrusters, transform or core booster, Katoki proportions or Okawara?

Discuss your ideal gundam, maybe provide pictures I guess? I'll post mine later.

 

[yami4ct]

Went ahead and ordered the MG Infinite Justice. I guess I'm on a bit of a CE binge. It's funny because I'm not a huge fan of SEED in general, but man do the suit designs work for me. Will ship him and the RG Astray soon.

Also looks like my DM Akatsuki is leaving Hong Kong on the 27th. Hopefully it means I'll see it sometime next week.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Zero has a saber and the Twin Buster but little else.

Zero managed to stand up to fucking Epyon in a close range fight. Plus it also has a shield and can transform.

 

[Shun]

Went ahead and ordered the MG Infinite Justice. I guess I'm on a bit of a CE binge. It's funny because I'm not a huge fan of SEED in general, but man do the suit designs work for me. Will ship him and the RG Astray soon.

Also looks like my DM Akatsuki is leaving Hong Kong on the 27th. Hopefully it means I'll see it sometime next week.

You're gonna have a lot of fun. Would like to hear what you think about the Akatsuki.

Are you going to modify the RG Astray's face since some people seem to have an issue with it?

I wonder if anyone is gonna do a kit bash with the Astray and the Destiny to make the Destiny Astray Outframe. The Destiny pack seems like it might work well with the Astray.

In regards to suit preferences I prefer no face vents, something more in line with the Zeta/Destiny face and I prefer unconventional V-Fins without a giant gem in the middle.

I really like the Akatsuki head, but I am in love with Unicorn's head as well with the knight face and subtle tear marks.

I don't really like yellow eyes and sensors for some reason.

I really like transforming suits like the Unicorn and God as well.

My top 5 favourite suits have to be

Kshatriya
Unicorn
Akatsuki
Delta/Hyaku Shiki
G-Self

 

[yami4ct]

You're gonna have a lot of fun. Would like to hear what you think about the Akatsuki.

Are you going to modify the RG Astray's face since some people seem to have an issue with it?

The RG Astray face problem is weird. In up close photos, it definitely looks a bit flat and dopy, but looking at it compared to the other astray, I can't figure out the actual issue. All the lines seem pretty equivalent. From anything other than hyper close ups, I think it looks fine so I probably won't touch it.

 

[beat]

Melee focus, shield or no shield, backpack/wing binders/thrusters, transform or core booster, Katoki proportions or Okawara?

I first got into Gundam at all because I saw the Endless Waltz designs in a Chinatown toy/model shop, so for a long time I was a Katoki fanboy. (Esp since I was also into Virtual On.)

But y'know, recently, seeing that anime-style painted old grade [and heavily rebuilt] 1/100 model, I'm kind of coming around a bit on Okawara proportions. Sometimes Katoki style has a bit too small a head and way too small a face inside the head, and I'm oddly charmed by the big head proportions of Okawara's.

So generally, I like a blend. Not as extreme in proportions as the first ver Ka Gundam, not as heavily greebly, but a still at least a little sleeker and more "athletic" looking than Okawara's style.

Also, I'm generally fond of insanely oversized guns, so that's another thing where I like Katoki's style.

 

[CBTech]

Katoki proportions or Okawara?

Could you post some examples of the differences? I haven't really thought about the proportion differences as the designers changed.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Discuss your ideal gundam, maybe provide pictures I guess? I'll post mine later.

Personally I like yellow eyes best, as long as they don't cash with the main colors. I guess I like them more without face vents, and the less vanilla the v-fin the better.

Melee focus is nice, shield is preferred, and I like thrusters on the back. The bigger the better. No preference regarding transformation/core booster, and I'd go with more Katoki proportions.

Not sure I can list my top 5 yet. Truth be told I often prefer the non-gundam mobile suits.

Could you post some examples of the differences? I haven't really thought about the proportion differences as the designers changed.

Here is an example with the original. Left is Okawara, right is Katoki.

 

[PhiLonius]

I thought that conversation was about which character and suit would win in a real time battle situation (　´，_ゝ&#65344

It's still that. Just narrowing down who the fighters would be.

 

[JadedWriter]

I don't pay attention to the more minute details here, but I tend to like the melee gundams more. I'm not even sure if I have a top 5. I'd list Altron, Kshatriya, Sinanju, Nu Gundam and Zeta, but then you have shit like the Byarlant, Asshimar, Baund-Doc, Gaplant which are probably unpopular on here but I love them. I also love stuff like the Aegis and Duel and the EZ-8. It's hard for me to narrow it down I guess.

 

[CBTech]

Here is an example with the original. Left is Okawara, right is Katoki.

Going off just those two images I go with Katoki, but I need to look at Okawara's more recent designs.

 

[JadedWriter]

Going off just those two images I go with Katoki, but I need to look at Okawara's more recent designs.

I find it funny how Okawara's looks like the prototype to the prototype.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Despite not like UC based Gundam shows ithat has a huge place in my top five.

1. Wing Gundam EW easily the best thing Wing has produced. Color scheme is great, beautiful and Vibrant. Slick sharp look, and massave imposing weapons and wings.

2. Delta Plus. This takes everything about the Shiki, makes it better and gives it the sexy blue and grey color.

3. Banshee Norn final battle - the main in the back is stupid, but load out is Amazing! Plus I like the color scheme and head better then Unicorn. I just wish it went pink/green instead of gold/green.

4. Double Zeta Gundam - massive in size, great color scheme, load out may be the best in main stream Gundam and the G Fortress is the best transformation in Gundam.

5 is a two way tie between Nu Ver Ka and Wing Gundam Fenice, both are beautiful a symmetrical designs that are fabulous redesigns that make their previous version look horrid.

 

[yami4ct]

My taste in mechs is a bit weird since it conflicts with my taste in stories. I tend to like real robot style stories, but super robot designs. I love over the top weaponry, Katoki proportions and particularly wings of light. Wings of Light make any suit 10x more awesome. Thinking of my favorite designs, my top 5 is likely

1. Double X: Awesome looking suit with cool ass weapons and a great nontraditional color scheme
2. Victory 2 Assault Buster: Love everything about how this looks. The weapon set is so cool and I just love the chest V and colors.
3. Destiny Gundam: I love the design just all over. The wings are great, the weapons are super cool and I adore the sort of jester face it has going. Too bad it was wasted on Shinn
4. RX-78-2 Origin: The perfection of the RX-78-2. Takes what makes the katoki version works and tweaks it to make it even better. Love the variability as well.
5. Deathscythe Hell Custom: It's just so badass. The beam scythe mixed with the bat wings and proportions gives it so many imposing poses. It's just so cool.

There are a ton more suits I love and am sad to leave out, but those are definitely my top 5.

 

[PhiLonius]

I find it funny how Okawara's looks like the prototype to the prototype.

Katoki always seems to know where and how to push the design.

Only thing I haven't liked so far are the legs on the recent Hi-Nu.

 

[JadedWriter]

Katoki always seems to know where and how to push the design.

Only thing I haven't liked so far are the legs on the recent Hi-Nu.

Has he only worked on Endless Waltz and Unicorn? He really does have excellent suit designs, but I'm going to assume they're too expensive to animate for regular shows.

 

[yami4ct]

Has he only worked on Endless Waltz and Unicorn? He really does have excellent suit designs, but I'm going to assume they're too expensive to animate for regular shows.

He mostly works on model kits and manga/LNs. His work is definitely influential, though. You can see a lot of aspects of his style start to creep into other designer's work after he started getting a big push in the model kit scene.

 

[Megalosaro]

How's everyone feeling about iron blooded orphans. I am hyped. Some of the character designs aren't my thing but the concept is cool

 

[Beth Cyra]

How's everyone feeling about iron blooded orphans. I am hyped. Some of the character designs aren't my thing but the concept is cool

To be frank the story telling in Gundam is so bad I can't stand watching it anymore so I'm here for the designs and models.

So far Iron has me interest because the grunts remind me of a few different mecha. Gundam B looks like a piece of pure garbage in my eyes. No interest in it at all.

 

[PhiLonius]

How's everyone feeling about iron blooded orphans. I am hyped. Some of the character designs aren't my thing but the concept is cool

I'm excited. I've loved all the suit design's so far and I'm just ready for a new Gundam watch at this point.

Still hoping that one guy gets a hair change though.

 

[yami4ct]

How's everyone feeling about iron blooded orphans. I am hyped. Some of the character designs aren't my thing but the concept is cool

Suit designs are awesome and the concept sounds really good. Creative team is worrying. Could be really good or just the most melodramatic garbage. I'll watch it because I like Gundam, but I don't hold out too much hope for a good story anymore. It's best to keep expectations low and be surprised.

 

[JadedWriter]

How's everyone feeling about iron blooded orphans. I am hyped. Some of the character designs aren't my thing but the concept is cool

I'll check out the first couple of eps most likely, just need to make time for it. They should just make Mobile Suit Gundam starring Sosuke Sagara already.