TacticalHotdog
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Manga. The Anime only covers the flashback portions and probably won't touch the original series aside from showing the Gundam rising
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Manga. The Anime only covers the flashback portions and probably won't touch the original series aside from showing the Gundam rising
JadedWriter
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My vote still goes to Zeta, Turn A and Wing but that's just me.
My top three are
SEEDestiny
Wing/Endless Waltz
Maybe OO but weirdly I hate Ash Like Snow
Anime no Janai or however it's spelled is the best intro song and works so damn well with SRW......goddess we need HD ZZ SRW so freaking bad.
Nemesis121
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I am watching Seed and it all seems way to familiar, i haven't watched many Gundam series so i can't remember if i saw this one, but i got a question,
, if this is true then i know i watched it and just don't remember the ending...
Sai dies and Flay blames Kira for it because he's a coordinator
The Sum of Zero
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Top 5:
PRIDE (Destiny OP 2)
Ash Like Snow (00 OP 2)
AURORA (AGE OP 4)
Rhythm Emotion (Wing OP 2)
Men of Destiny (0083 OP 2)
Late Edit: Beyond just opening songs, the themes from Unicorn are fantastic. StarRingChild is GOAT.
PRIDE (Destiny OP 2)
Ash Like Snow (00 OP 2)
AURORA (AGE OP 4)
Rhythm Emotion (Wing OP 2)
Men of Destiny (0083 OP 2)
Late Edit: Beyond just opening songs, the themes from Unicorn are fantastic. StarRingChild is GOAT.
JadedWriter
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Most of Kira's friends are meaningless chumps any way. I think I can only remember two of their names.
NTR'ed guy.
Unicorn
G Reco
SEED
Zeta
AGE
F91
All 6 of those series have the best music or most memorable music to me.
As much as I think G Gundam is stupid, I think the songs in G Gundam are pretty hype inducing for when I play Gundam EXVS at the very least.
Out of the list, I think Unicorn, G Reco, Age, and SEED probably have the best music for the setting.
Really most gundam music is pretty enjoyable not because of the anime, but because when you play Gundam EXVS and the music plays you get really into it and it gets really thrilling.
G Reco
SEED
Zeta
AGE
F91
All 6 of those series have the best music or most memorable music to me.
As much as I think G Gundam is stupid, I think the songs in G Gundam are pretty hype inducing for when I play Gundam EXVS at the very least.
Out of the list, I think Unicorn, G Reco, Age, and SEED probably have the best music for the setting.
Really most gundam music is pretty enjoyable not because of the anime, but because when you play Gundam EXVS and the music plays you get really into it and it gets really thrilling.
Are we talking BGM or vocal stuff?
When you were discussing music I just assumed both.
You shouldn't judge a series solely by one or another.
Both types are equally important in enjoying and judging a series. Most of the EXVS music is both too so I mean yeah.
My bad. I didn't look at the above posts. Just saw yours.
Those are pretty good, but the fact that you've not seen a lot of Gundam series shows. Missing out on a lot UC related show's OPs/EDs. Orphans Namida is definitely up there for me now.
G Gundam and AGE probably has the worst music in Gundam to me.
Granted I take issue with Extreme Vs because it took the lamest stage and music from Wing it possibly could have.
JadedWriter
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Him and gender swapped Kai Shiiden.
Omitting the Zeta themes will always rub me the wrong way. JeffZero also needs to Turn A Turn.
Orphans Namida is awesome. I was just listening OPs, but if I got into EDs, it'd be near the top, alongside Gundam SEED's.
If I could tuuurn a tuuuuurn
If I could fiiiind a waaaay
*clears throat*
Ahem. Yeah, I really do.
JadedWriter
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I've never even heard the Orphans theme. Oddly enough I like most of the old school Jpop themes, female vocals. I'm honestly surprised you didn't list Men of Destiny.
You need to do some non-AU Gundams for a while. Beyond the Time, The Winner, Someday I'll Reach the Sky. Of course Zeta and ZZ. It's Not Anime is an instant classic.
JadedWriter
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Some day I'll reach the sky is one of my favorites...Does Jeff Zero know of the Macross themes? Anybody here know the theme that plays at the end of Do You Remember Love? That shit's fucking legit. And I'm talking about the song at the credits that Minmay sings during that concert, not the DYRL song.
F91 had such good music and such a good setting with Crossbone as an epilogue. It is such a shame that it isn't explored more.
I hope reboot F91 and Crossbone get an anthology anime in the form of a tv anime or through a Unicorn like run.
Hathaway was 7 years after Unicorn and F91/Crossbone is 20 years after Hathaway.
F91 had a cool setting for post Hathaway UC and it had pretty cool mass production suits and a lot about F91 had good potential.
I usually do not like smaller mobile suit but F91 is one of those exceptions to the rule.
There is a lot to do link the time from the time between Hathaway and F91, and then an entire saga of what you can do with F91/Crossbone for 30 years until Victory happens.
then have Victory be the UC timeline end and reset where ~30-50 years after Victory there been more war and economic gridlock and it basically becomes Regilid Century where G Reco takes place.
Make a G Reco sequel and make more G Reco. Then have that tie into Turn A eventually.
I hope reboot F91 and Crossbone get an anthology anime in the form of a tv anime or through a Unicorn like run.
Hathaway was 7 years after Unicorn and F91/Crossbone is 20 years after Hathaway.
F91 had a cool setting for post Hathaway UC and it had pretty cool mass production suits and a lot about F91 had good potential.
I usually do not like smaller mobile suit but F91 is one of those exceptions to the rule.
There is a lot to do link the time from the time between Hathaway and F91, and then an entire saga of what you can do with F91/Crossbone for 30 years until Victory happens.
then have Victory be the UC timeline end and reset where ~30-50 years after Victory there been more war and economic gridlock and it basically becomes Regilid Century where G Reco takes place.
Make a G Reco sequel and make more G Reco. Then have that tie into Turn A eventually.
I pray with G Reco tanking that they never let Tomino do another Gundam or drop this dumbass attempt to make things so far in the future of UC given they've tanked both damn times.
I wouldn't mind a Hathaway's Flash but I really hope they don't go to crazy with Reboots and certainly not animate them.
Bel Children, Wing EW and any other reboots should never be animated. Keep that nonsense locked to Gundam ACE or some other manga.
JadedWriter
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But the only good thing about Char's CounterAttack is the mech designs and soundtrack. I say make Beltorchika's Children. Better woman than Chan any way.
Gundam CCA Soundtrack - Londo Bell Battle theme
Gundam CCA Soundtrack - Nu Gundam/Amuro Theme
Axis
davidwhangchoi
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i watched F91 w/o subs when it first came out. i didn't know what was going on...
it was on a vhs tape w/ Baoh lol
it was on a vhs tape w/ Baoh lol
Quality isn't the question here, ALL Gundams, it doesn't matter which one could be improved on.
The fact is the story is told and the overall structure has no need to change and effect the greater story line of the UC universe. Do stuff that has not been done like Hathaway's Flash.
I say this about stuff like for stuff likeEndless Waltz Glory of the Losers which makes Wing some what good instead of pure trash like the TV show, it has no business being animated.
Subs will not make it much better, it was WAY to rushed and had no business being released in the way it was sadly.
Sunrise really screwed the pooch with F91.
F91 and Crossbone is good tho and it has a good setting that sets up for a post Unicorn UC environment. More so than Victory anyway.
A lot of the suits are a progression from earlier UC and it works out pretty good at least until the end of Crossbone.
F91 deserves a fully fleshed out story and series anyway since it was not given that chance. There is a lot of potential in it.
F91 has a very good setting. Crossbone expands on it a little but it is placed 10 years after F91. If anything needs and deserves a reboot it is F91.
Tomino da god. G Reco was enjoyable and good and it should get more fleshing out.
A lot of the suits are a progression from earlier UC and it works out pretty good at least until the end of Crossbone.
F91 deserves a fully fleshed out story and series anyway since it was not given that chance. There is a lot of potential in it.
F91 has a very good setting. Crossbone expands on it a little but it is placed 10 years after F91. If anything needs and deserves a reboot it is F91.
Tomino da god. G Reco was enjoyable and good and it should get more fleshing out.
JadedWriter
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I always look at stuff from a quality stand point. I mean imagine a Seed Destiny reedit with Shinn. While we're at it cut Stella the fuck out of there too.
Well I like to imagine a new seires be it UC or AU that has better, NEW characters and a NEW story that the money it would take to remake something like Destiny or CCA.
Honestly no matter how good Destiny, Wing, CCA could be, I much rather get new characters, and new suits and new abilities then them just fixing old broken ones.
Fixes are already done in Manga form and with games like SRW Z. I just really don't feel they should dedicate budgets that can give us the next IBO or Unicorn to something already done and told.
I wasn't even asking for a remake of Destiny or CCA or Wing but okay.
I mean with how F91 is most of it wasn't even touched up in Crossbone or even the Crossbone sequel.
F91 was referenced but there is still a big gap of F91 still untold.
Especially with between Hathaway and F91. That can be new material, but the time between and F91 has a lot of exposition that was lost. Post Crossbone is fleshed out enough with it's sequels.
I mean I am glad Thunderbolt gets a short one to coincide and help the manga sales.
I mean with how F91 is most of it wasn't even touched up in Crossbone or even the Crossbone sequel.
F91 was referenced but there is still a big gap of F91 still untold.
Especially with between Hathaway and F91. That can be new material, but the time between and F91 has a lot of exposition that was lost. Post Crossbone is fleshed out enough with it's sequels.
I mean I am glad Thunderbolt gets a short one to coincide and help the manga sales.
JadedWriter
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I agree but I've never played an SRW game cause they're never released in a language I can read so the wonderment of that is lost on me. Just that with each new things there's risks of somebody fucking up. Granted original Wing writer wrote Frozen Teardrop and that's well...based on the synopsis I've read...it's drunken LSD fanfiction.
You weren't the only one who talking about Remakes/Reboots, I addresed both points Shun.
Also I really only addressed you're part during my first post as I really don't have anything to add. The public has already voted and told Tomino to basically fuck off with both G Reco and Turn A, and I hope that Sunrise don't risk a third attempt with it.
I also strongly disagree with your idea of Rebooting or retelling any part of F91 as I don't feel Gundam Anime's should be Rebooted.
I do agree with Hathaway's Flash though.
Frozen Teardrop to me is no worse then most Gundam and what they try to pass as "story telling" so to me it would only be bad because all there are no new Gundam designs outside of Grunts and the Shuffle Alliance.
Sunrise will do a sequel to Gundam Unicorn and officially write F91 and anything after it out of the timeline. It's almost certain to happen. G-reco's UC-nes is easy to ignore, and Victory changes thing so much they can't really make a show and call it a Unicorn successor. With Unicorn's popularity, it's almost a guarantee.
I would also not be shocked to see Beltorchika's Children and Hathaway's Flash get adaptations. I would welcome both.
I would also not be shocked to see Beltorchika's Children and Hathaway's Flash get adaptations. I would welcome both.
I'd be sad if it was all just axed, but at this point I wouldn't be shocked and overall I'd be okay with it.
Having them regress the tech so far from Unicorn will always be an issue if they don't. Still Im good with Hathaway's flash either way.
It'll probably be a while before we get a new OVA series anyway. I expect them to expand The Origin into remaking the whole of 0079 given that seems to be a pretty great success. We won't get the inevitable Unicorn sequel until that massive project is complete.
I half expect whatever the Unicorn sequel to be is going to be teased in that new LN volume that got announced a little while back.
Pretty much what I'm expecting.
Do we have word on length of IBO yet? 26 With a possible Season 2?
25 for Season 1. The model line seems to be doing really well, so given Sunrise's history a Season 2 is guaranteed. Hell, they gave 50 episodes to Age and that tanked.
The Unicorn sequel is literally Hathaway. Hathaway takes place 7 years after Unicorn.
If you were to do something after Unicorn it would have to tie in with the terrorist attacks that tie into Hathaway.
Also F91 is a pretty good progression of UC technology by condensing the size and power into something more efficient.
Victory makes sense to axe and rework but F91 and Crossbone actually make sense.
If you were to do something after Unicorn it would have to tie in with the terrorist attacks that tie into Hathaway.
Also F91 is a pretty good progression of UC technology by condensing the size and power into something more efficient.
Victory makes sense to axe and rework but F91 and Crossbone actually make sense.
davidwhangchoi
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i found f91 w subs, i'm going to try and watch it.
ThatChairMan
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Did tech really regress from Unicorn to F91/Victory? Aside from the abandonment of psychoframe technology, everything else seemed to progress forward. The heavy focus on beam weaponry led to smaller suits that focused on speed rather than defense, beam shields were created as an alternative to i-fields to defend against both beams and conventional weaponry, beam technology in general advanced to the point with stuff like the wings of light and beam flags, and mobile suit reactors were so powerful that a single mobile suit being destroyed in atmosphere was basically a nuke.
I would even argue that the biocomputer on the F91 was more worthwhile than psychoframe, as it could function for both Newtypes and Oldtypes.
I would say no if it was still CCA, but as they continue to enhance the Psycoframe and what its capable of and it no longer being exclusive to Armuro it seems super odd even with the Bio.
The thing about Unicorn is that shits on all of Tomino's efforts post CCA. Unicorn opens up a path that would drastically alter the timeline. Suddenly we have the strongest Newtype working toward a world that considers Newtypes and puts Oldtypes in retirement homes. That does not match up with later canon. We never hear about Minerva ever again. There was no Newtype Claus.
Can someone remind me of the major plot beats in Unicorn? Especially toward the end? My mind's a haze. I enjoyed it (far more than my friend, anyway) but some things sort of blended together.
Also, if anyone has a link to that amazing music that played whenever Unicorn was presented dramatically, that'd be the bee's knees. That song was rad.
Also, if anyone has a link to that amazing music that played whenever Unicorn was presented dramatically, that'd be the bee's knees. That song was rad.
Everyone was thirsty, especially for Audrey.
Well, with hair like that, you know she's a winner.
JadedWriter
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Riddhe was thirsty, Kamille 2.0 was thirsty. Shit happens, people died, Ep 4 happened, mecha porn, mind's a haze, speaking, speaking, fuck Riddhe, Newtype time travel monologue, everyone's a newtype...
Sounds about right.
I particularly recall the "mind's a haze, speaking, speaking," part.
JadedWriter
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I have so much trouble remembering stuff after Ep 4. It's just a blur to me for some odd reason.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Anime Ja Nai is the best, hands down.
Pisses me off though when folks think the title of the song is a purposeful dig at the silliness of ZZ, when it's really a song that thematically fits the "child soldier" theme of Gundam and goes well with how ZZ gets progressively serious as time goes on.
Pisses me off though when folks think the title of the song is a purposeful dig at the silliness of ZZ, when it's really a song that thematically fits the "child soldier" theme of Gundam and goes well with how ZZ gets progressively serious as time goes on.
That scene where they drop the colony on Dublin and Kamille breaks down when he's unable to stop it is the best scene in UC, in my opinion...better than any "emotional moment" in Zeta certainly
JadedWriter
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I'm seen ZZ twice and I'm still convinced at the end of ZZ Kamille is nothing more than a functional vegetable by the end of it. Him running on the beach with Fa is my favorite ZZ moment. That and J
udau scaring the shit out of Haman with his Newtype Titan.
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