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The Gundam |OT2| Another 5 years of Gunpla, Origins, and GUNDAMUUUU!
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It took me a while to learn about the exciting world of middlemen services. N-Y actually started carrying the P-Bandai model kits fairly recently. Up until the last year or so, they would only have have the exclusive action figures. They are my go-to for my P-Bandai stuff and HLJ is where I go for retail kits. Amazon is good for retail kits if you don't mind waiting and only order a kit or two at a time, but going straight to the Japanese importer websites works best if you're ordering a lot and can combine shipping.
davidwhangchoi
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yeah, yami4ct is correct, Nippn Yasan is the easiest to use for P-bandai stuff.
hlj is best for retail.
the trick was finding the announcements for pre-orders. once you get the hang of that, it's easy sailing =)
donkey show
Member
Welcome to the church of Tobia. All are welcome.
davidwhangchoi
Member
oh yeah =) loving it so far, i'm going to try and finish it before i go to bed tonight after watching some NBA =)
Just built the Rifle for the V2 so I can pose with it on the base. Rifle is awesome, but boy are V2's weapon hands terrible. It tenuously holds on with a weird peg extending from the trigger finger and friction from the thumb. It's functional, but the AB parts sure as hell better offer new hands with a proper plug. There is no way those hands can work the rail gun.
Soon you will understand why we want it to be animated.
Given how well The Origin's OVA is doing, I would say the chances of them continuing on from where the Flashback Arc stops and adapting the adapting the rest is like 80%.
There is too much DVD/Blu-Ray and model money on the table. They would be absolutely silly to pass it up. Yasuhiko did all the hard work adapting the original to modern pacing anyway.
The scariest part, one of the most important aspects, and somethingly highly praised is dobe by none other then Sumizawa, same man who did the bat shit insane Frozen Teardrop.
He just worked on the anime, right? Yasuhiko has done all of Sunrise's work for them in the manga. Honestly, I'm not all that thrilled at the way this adaptation is going anyway. It's fine and it's certainly better than The Origin never getting adapted, but I could foresee something even better made with that amazing material.
That's good to hear!
I'm still pretty green about the franchise, so I haven't been... erm... exposed... to Frozen Teardrop, but yeah, I've heard bad things. Really bad things.
Thats true, OVA only, nothing to do with the Manga.
That said he has done a great job as script writer overall. My hang ups with Prigin certain are not with his work.
I do agree it could be awesone if they made use off all the good material.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Ugh.
Thrown phone in case vs PG Strike in the wrong place at the wrong time. Guess what won.
Today has been god awful but this isn't Depression GAF, so I'll only say watch where you toss things.
Thrown phone in case vs PG Strike in the wrong place at the wrong time. Guess what won.
Today has been god awful but this isn't Depression GAF, so I'll only say watch where you toss things.
Sorry to hear it! D:
I will say my problems with the adaptation are more with the direction than the script, so I've got nothing against what Sumizawa has done on it. I'm not a fan of the way they've used CG and some of the action direction could have been better.
My biggest problem is the choice to adapt the Flashback Arc first. Where it comes in the manga is a great moment and it really complements the pacing of the whole series. To stick it at the front (assuming they do the whole thing) recolors some things I'm not a fan of and alters the pacing in a way that's not ideal. I get it from a business perspective because it's a good way to gage interest before commenting to the massive full thing, but it's not amazing for the art.
If/when they do the whole thing, it's going to be spectacular. This could be Yamato 2199 levels of special if they do it correctly.
davidwhangchoi
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Boo... that's a bummer =(
glad, you guys discussed F91. i really wouldn't have bothered w/ something i saw 15 yrs ago w/o subs. but it's a pretty good story.
i smiled last night when Zabine appeared for the first time right before launching.
i left off where they caught the girl stowaway after Rohan came out of the shower and Kinkedo shot down a nuke missile protecting the ship.
Ceallach
Smells like fresh rosebuds
I like Crossbone a lot. But I would really like to the entire Formula Wars animated. Start from F-90 with the fall of Anaheim and go through the rise and fall of the Vanguard through Crossbone.
I would like some of Crossbones sillier things toned down a bit though, but that ship has sailed with the model kits and game appearances.
I would like some of Crossbones sillier things toned down a bit though, but that ship has sailed with the model kits and game appearances.
Unicorn and Origin is what's up now for UC in the eyes of Sunrise, I surmise.
But seriously, though, with Unicorn apparently getting an eleventh volume soon and Origin doing quite well, too, I'd be really surprised if Crossbone content were even remotely on their minds. Then again, as I understand it Crossbone adaptations have never really been on their minds.
I hear good things, so that's a shame.
Holy shit, that sentence.
But seriously, though, with Unicorn apparently getting an eleventh volume soon and Origin doing quite well, too, I'd be really surprised if Crossbone content were even remotely on their minds. Then again, as I understand it Crossbone adaptations have never really been on their minds.
I hear good things, so that's a shame.
Valkerionseven
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was gonna buy justice today but got way to drunk last night/this morning lol. And now its snowing and it never snows here in Kagoshima. So... a few more days lol. Need to pop this MG cherry eventually.
Now that Im thinking about it/looked over my lightning gundam is still in the damn box too haha
Now that Im thinking about it/looked over my lightning gundam is still in the damn box too haha
Ceallach
Smells like fresh rosebuds
The rumor, even going waaaaay back to the old Gundam.com forums was that Crossbone is a licensing nightmare for some reason. I know Vertical say it is basically impossible to license. They had a poll for what gundam series people would like to see after Origin months ago and specifically said that Crossbone was impossible.
davidwhangchoi
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something to hold you over =)
MG Infinite Justice (Part 1: Unbox) ∞
i used to watch this and compare the shade of maroon w/ RG justice just to see which i liked better.
athrun, the real hero of seed and destiny =P
that kills my hope :|
I would not be surprised if Unicorn's next volume isn't some Unicorn -> Hathaway's Flash bridge that just exists to raise that LN's standing in preparation for an adaptation. I fully expect them to continue along the UC route post Unicorn and eventually write F91/Crossbone/Victory out of existence. It's the smart way to go.
Origin is likely going to be their big thing for the foreseeable future, but an adaptation of Beltorchika's Children or Hathaway's Flash after that seem super possible.
I really dont think they will ever do Children.
Nu will not be replaced by Hi Nu, even less so after Katoki brought Nu inline with Unicorn and the new physcho frame enhancments.
Maybe if the chuck out Hi Nu and Night, but they will never replace Nu and Sazabi in animation form.
They are already adapting Beltorchika's as a manga and both Nightingale and Hi-Nu have gotten recent kits. I'm not saying they will become the default for all merchandise, but Bandai certainly is afraid of using them. I don't see that stopping them. An adaptation of Beltorchika's Children would allow them to say 'goodbye' to Char in a major way one final time, which would be a great sales push, and it would allow them to do even more to setup an eventual Hathaway's Flash adaptation.
Hathaway I could see being done, but not BC. BC would remove CCA from canon.
And I don't want V to go away, it's what got me into Gundam
Bandai is already changing UC canon with The Origin. Beltorchika's is a similar situation. A better and more expanded form of the same material. It also is setup for Hathaway's Flash which allow them to eventually push UC forward in a way they can write out Victory and continue to make UC material in a way fans want.
I liked AGE too after giving it a second shot but the Kio arc was where it fell apart. Really should have been split as a series and given more time to flesh out but LEVEL-5 messed up.
That is also what I meant by redoing F91 in an animated fashion since a lot of the original story was compressed, thrown away, or dissected into other parts of the F91 continuity onto Crossbone.
I disagree about writing out F91 and Victory out of the UC canon and it's plausibility at all.
Megalosaurus and I made this point earlier in the thread but can you really argue that Unicorn to F91 was a technological downgrade?
We argued that it was actually technological progress because the focus on efficiency, condensing nuclear and minovsky energy into a smaller and efficient frame as well as focusing on beam shields and beam weaponry vs. i-fields. Biocomputer being an alternative to new type exclusive technology like psycommu and psychoframe.
F91 might be different and Victory very much so, but it's progression post CCA and UC makes sense in terms of technology. You just need to bridge the story gap.
Mobile Suit Gundam Segway 1-5
AGE does not have a strong start and I'm having a hard time finding something to like about it. I dislike the character designs. Woolf especially annoys me with his dumb hair ears. Captain Grodek seems like a cheap Jamil Neate and far less cool. Besides the Gundam, I'm not liking any of the suit designs. That being said I do think the UE suits work really well for the unknown alien threat that the show is going for. Just enough parts mobile suit and animal. I do really like the idea of analyzing threats then 3D printing new weapons to fight them. I hope they do some cool stuff with that, though why they haven't made those DOTS rifles for every suit they have confuses me. It is a hell of a lot better than the pea shooters they have right now.
AGE does not have a strong start and I'm having a hard time finding something to like about it. I dislike the character designs. Woolf especially annoys me with his dumb hair ears. Captain Grodek seems like a cheap Jamil Neate and far less cool. Besides the Gundam, I'm not liking any of the suit designs. That being said I do think the UE suits work really well for the unknown alien threat that the show is going for. Just enough parts mobile suit and animal. I do really like the idea of analyzing threats then 3D printing new weapons to fight them. I hope they do some cool stuff with that, though why they haven't made those DOTS rifles for every suit they have confuses me. It is a hell of a lot better than the pea shooters they have right now.
The thing about F91 and Victory is they are such different worlds that the vast majority of UC fans don't really have an interest in that part of the timeline. The sales of Unicorn and The Origin prove that people want more of the UC they are familiar with and there is only so much space to work with between Unicorn and F91. Whether you like the post F91 timeline or not, the smart business move is to write them out and open up more room for the stories the biggest chunk of fans want to see.
Ceallach
Smells like fresh rosebuds
I would be okay with remakes. Do the Formula Wars but more grounded, more hardcore. Show how the EF fall apart and how these splinter groups rise.
I think a remade V has a TON of potential. Show the rise of Zanscare, how their zeal caused a fervor that led to conquest. Show the Shrikes, Marbet Fingerhat, the absolutely devastation, but without Uso or even Shakti. Or age them some.
I think this would be a good medium, you could keep the popular classic designs like the F91, V, V2, etc but do more.
I don't think that's a bad idea personally, but I think sales wise people just want the UC they know and love. They want the EFF and Zeon or logical variations on those. People really aren't interested in the F91 rendition of the timeline.
Ceallach
Smells like fresh rosebuds
You get a little bit of that in F90, the Oldsmobile Army have souped up classic Zeke suits.
But fuck the OYW is so fucking overdone. But I guess it does make sense in a way for Zeon ideology to pop back up. The CSA were destroyed over 150 years ago but that shit still never goes away.
But fuck the OYW is so fucking overdone. But I guess it does make sense in a way for Zeon ideology to pop back up. The CSA were destroyed over 150 years ago but that shit still never goes away.
What truly fucked things up was Laplace's Box in my opinion. It's a huge "fuck you" to anything post Unicorn. Those shows didn't reflect what happened in Unicorn. Unicorn is awesome, but they didn't really do their best to fit it into an existing universe.
Unicorn is part of its own UC timeline of BC->Unicorn->Hathaway's Flash. That timeline is already different enough that the F91 stuff can't really exist. The anime just doesn't really acknowledge that it's retconning things.
Sure, if they said it was more a divergence and created a different timeline, then I could accept it. Maybe throw Gaia Gear into it. I still want a universe that followed what happened in the MSG books. I like Amuro, but that would be funny. lol
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
X was pretty slow at first but I'm really starting to enjoy it now around 12---all the characters are pretty neat and none of them are particularly annoying, Garrod especially is more or less Judau who I always enjoyed, and the supporting players are very solid, especially Dr. Tex. Shame these dudes never get any love due to the series ending so early.
Someone hit the nail on the head though that all the Suits are basically re-purposed classics mainly from Wing, but now I'm at the part where we've got a rip-off Quebely running around in the Vertigo. But that's alright too since I always thought the Quebely was GOAT.
Someone hit the nail on the head though that all the Suits are basically re-purposed classics mainly from Wing, but now I'm at the part where we've got a rip-off Quebely running around in the Vertigo. But that's alright too since I always thought the Quebely was GOAT.
Man, all this UC talk goes right over my head. It wasn't until this very thread that I realized how little I know about Gundam.
I think I'm going to do a chronological UC run. Seeing The Origin (Part I) earlier made me feel like doing so. I'll look into all these things y'all are talking about -- this Hathaway's Flash thing, for example.
Should I go dubbed or subbed for this big giant UC extravaganza? (And it won't slow down the SEED-watching, since I only watch SEED with cooper.)
I think I'm going to do a chronological UC run. Seeing The Origin (Part I) earlier made me feel like doing so. I'll look into all these things y'all are talking about -- this Hathaway's Flash thing, for example.
Should I go dubbed or subbed for this big giant UC extravaganza? (And it won't slow down the SEED-watching, since I only watch SEED with cooper.)
Man, all this UC talk goes right over my head. It wasn't until this very thread that I realized how little I know about Gundam.
I think I'm going to do a chronological UC run. Seeing The Origin (Part I) earlier made me feel like doing so. I'll look into all these things y'all are talking about -- this Hathaway's Flash thing, for example.
Should I go dubbed or subbed for this big giant UC extravaganza? (And it won't slow down the SEED-watching, since I only watch SEED with cooper.)
Subbed is easily the best option for UC. Not only is it not all dubbed, but you can't beat Ikeda's Char. He's too good.
Most of the stuff we're talking about like Hathaway's Flash are manga and Light Novels that have no english translation yet. Unicorn started out that way as well. Basically, Tomino wrote a series of novels that sort of spun off of a retelling of Char's Counterattack called Beltorchika's Children. The changes in that novel seem small at first, but they quickly snowball as he continued to write in that alternate timeline and it became kind of its own thing.
The Origin is an adaptation of a manga that remade the original MSG. It also has significant changes, particularly in the technical history. The only part they're adapting right now is a flashback arc that expands on Char and Sayla's history, but they very likely will remake the rest afterward.
Megalosaro
Banned
We need to move on from this
as popular as it is and as much as I like it, we need more different UC and AU isn't enough of a compromise to a UC fan like me.
I don't disagree at all. Char and Amuro was truly special. All these Char clones are hand me down bullshit. Just let it go.
We need to move on from this
as popular as it is and as much as I like it, we need more different UC and AU isn't enough of a compromise to a UC fan like me.
Give me a proper adaptation of The Origin an an adaptation of Beltorchika's Children so we can all pretend the horror show that is CCA never happened and I'll be happy to never see Char and Amuro in UC again.
davidwhangchoi
Member
Reading Crossbone Manga right now:
That is such B.S. how easily Kinkedo lets Tobia ride the X1???
let him gundam jack it or fall into it accidentally... i can't believe, after one month of training, he let him go into battle on his own and w/ the X1...
That is such B.S. how easily Kinkedo lets Tobia ride the X1???
let him gundam jack it or fall into it accidentally... i can't believe, after one month of training, he let him go into battle on his own and w/ the X1...
Kinda hard to swallow. This is weak shit, where is the Black Tenga. Ultimate pleasure.
Don't google this. it is nsfw.
Ceallach
Smells like fresh rosebuds
Man, all this UC talk goes right over my head. It wasn't until this very thread that I realized how little I know about Gundam.
I think I'm going to do a chronological UC run. Seeing The Origin (Part I) earlier made me feel like doing so. I'll look into all these things y'all are talking about -- this Hathaway's Flash thing, for example.
Should I go dubbed or subbed for this big giant UC extravaganza? (And it won't slow down the SEED-watching, since I only watch SEED with cooper.)
It's a wash. The Gundam dubs are truly great(except for the asian english dubs and the original movie dub).
I would recommend.
Movie Trilogy->08th MS->Igloo->0080->0083->Z->ZZ->CCA->Unicorn->F91->V
You could totally watch the 0079 series if you want, but a lot of it isn't canon. Avoid Last Blitz of Zeon, Miller Report, and Zeta Gundam movie trilogy. They are all flawed in their own ways.
Miller Report is worth a watch after watching the 08th OVAs for the extra stuff, there is also a newer 08th MS team short that is decent. Zeta Gundam trilogy is patently not canon and incompatible with ZZ+. It's also really jarring the mix of 80s animation and 00s animation. G-reco is also kind of a mess and while technically it follows the UC timeline, I wouldn't count on that ever being acknowledged.
Also don't forget Thunderbolt! It's really good. Next ep. out in February!
I'll stop now before I start going into my favorite manga and novels and reference books and video game side stories that are hard to find, lol.
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