Wilhelm_85
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I think they are blowing the negativity it got way out of proportion. The "hate" was not nearly universal, even among hardcore gamers.
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The PS5 Pro is selling well?![]()
2 weeks isn't a trajectoryThis would almost work as a counter argument if Switch 2 sales hadn't continued on their trajectory after launch, rather than slowing down right away as happened with Xbox One
I mean it still wouldn't, but it would be better than right now I guess
I think folks are getting a little carried away with the victory laps. Maybe it does do great still, but this initial wave is largely a function of great supply (one of the few and best examples) + die-hard early adopters, likely with a hunger for something new after a prolonged generation.
I just wonder how well it'll follow through in the coming few years given the cost/s and the less technically-concerned Nintendo playerbase. It's a highly iterative console that probably should've come out 18 months ago; and I'd argue it was the bare minimum of upgrades for then, let alone now.
Ultimately the Switch 2 titles you can't get on Switch (1) in the coming years will be the driver of whether the average Nintendo gamer jumps in. Hopefully Ninty can push the boat out a bit.
Well this one coming next month...Ultimately the Switch 2 titles you can't get on Switch (1) in the coming years will be the driver of whether the average Nintendo gamer jumps in.
And? Overpriced trash sells
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Makes me think of that quote from Miyamoto where he thanked all the haters of the Super Mario movie.Haters are the best marketing tool these days… Except for Concord![]()
Well, they are when they're a vocal minority and not the whole market itself lolHaters are the best marketing tool these days… Except for Concord![]()
This was my primary motivator to secure the system now. Because it definitely wasn't software...I talked a lot of crap and bought it anyway be because price drop is a thing of the past.
What do you mean by joke product? Nintendo put a lot of resources behind the launch of the Nintendo DS. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding.Nintendo didn't bend because they have real data. The hating was coming from a small minority probably.
The Nintendo audience isn't as tuned in as the rest of us. Go back to the DS launch for example. It was a joke product, and it went on to sell over 154 million units..
This is an odd "fuck yeah, we get to pay more, suck on that consumers!" victory lap. Yay you?
The hate was always a storm in a teacup; a loud minority of online trolls don't represent the real world.
What do you mean by joke product? Nintendo put a lot of resources behind the launch of the Nintendo DS. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding.
Yeah I remember everyone predicting DS was going to flop compared to the PSP. Crying about the screen. About the power. Etc.Not everyone is going to be happy with the DS as it murdered their favorite competing handheld.
Fair enough. Though at that time Nintendo was probably lying through their teeth talking about the third pillar strategy and how the Nintendo DS would not displace their legacy hardware when in fact it completely consumed the Game Boy as a hardware line.Not everyone is going to be happy with the DS as it murdered their favorite competing handheld.
It's more than just pointing out loud voices don't always equal what the masses think - that's nothing new nor something that needs to be pointed out. This is something else. An acknowledgement (vindication) that those consumers are all too willingly to open up and swallow that extra anti-consumer shit they wanted to put out. It's just gross and honestly fucking weird, especially people using it to prop up console warring.... Consumers are the ones buying the Switch 2 in record numbers. The point of the article isn't a victory lap, it's a reality check. There's often a massive disconnect between the algorithmic feedback loops of social media and the actual tastes of consumers at large. It's good for businesses (and the terminally online) to keep that in mind, because mistaking loud influencers for the voice of the market is what drove catastrophes like Concord and all the other "modern audiences" boondoggles.
Even when the OLED version is finally released, it will still cost $450. The new OLED version might cost around $550 or more. Outside some sale, no official MSRP on any current gen console yet. Actually price increasedThis was my primary motivator to secure the system now. Because it definitely wasn't software...
Yeah I'm going to willingly swallow up the anti-consumer shit they are putting out on July 17th. I hope it tastes good.It's more than just pointing out loud voices don't always equal what the masses think - that's nothing new nor something that needs to be pointed out. This is something else. An acknowledgement (vindication) that those consumers are all too willingly to open up and swallow that extra anti-consumer shit they wanted to put out. It's just gross and honestly fucking weird, especially people using it to prop up console warring.
It's more than just pointing out loud voices don't always equal what the masses think - that's nothing new nor something that needs to be pointed out. This is something else. An acknowledgement (vindication) that those consumers are all too willingly to open up and swallow that extra anti-consumer shit they wanted to put out. It's just gross and honestly fucking weird, especially people using it to prop up console warring.
Still hopping for a somehow turn around and this will be another WiiU huh? You do realize they have to win a lottery to have the privilege of buying a Switch 2, right?... so far
Wii U will be too damn extreme, (and that was the home console tho.. which is dead now). Just less successful as the SW1... 10, 20M less or/and slower adoption rateStill hopping for a somehow turn around and this will be another WiiU huh? You do realize they have to win a lottery to have the privilege of buying a Switch 2, right?
You put value games based how expensive the graphics are, I dont.....I'm gonna skip GTA6 like I did with GTA5 because for me they not fun, that what I value most rather how high tech graphics are.GTA 6 is perhaps worth $75 because it's a cutting-edge game.
Your money you do you....I like Nintendo games and I have the money to buy it, why should I wait? I have zero reason not to buy it.If you want to buy a Switch 2, don't buy it yet, wait for the revised version with OLED, OLED is not a luxury, it is your right, PS Vita used OLED in 2011, 2011. Wake up, man.
But If you have already bought the Switch 2, sweet, there is still a solution, be patient, DO NOT BUY the games, do this for some months and then the community will put Nintendo back in a position of humility and respect. yeah You'll hear that the new Zelda, new Mario, new DK is the best of all time, but they always say that, it's part of the game, but you played Wii, Wii U, Switch you know nintendo games, at the end of the day you know that Zelda will have those elements, that Mario will say woopi when he jumps. Be patient, boycott.
It is necessary for people to talk about this not only in this thread but also on YouTube and social media, as Nintendo's policies affect all of us.The console hasn't been out for even a month. The Wii U effectively sold out at launch. So did the Gamecube. Strong initial numbers don't mean anything in the long run.
The higher price tag not only for the console but it's software as well, more handheld competitors and a litany of issues with the device (Joycon drift STILL and an LCD screen 100 times slower than an OLED screen).
I don't think the Switch 2 will find anywhere near the success that the Switch did. I don't think it will be an abject failure, but I don't see it cracking 100m units sold by end of life. Me and my partner who both got a Switch day 1 are waiting to buy a Switch 2 that we will share. Anecdotal, but that kind of says it all.
Yeah it's a bit early still. We all knew the thing will be sold out once launch hits.... so far
Probably the best news to come out of this.Majority of people aren't terminally online.
i didn't said it was 100% guaranteedExplain PSVR2
Switch is a hybrid console it serves as both a handheld and console depends on how you chose to use it and thst is a part of it's appeal, and the fact that you are hopping for a device to sell less for some reason as if every SW2 is sold the gods take a year off your life span or something is genuinely weird, I'd talk to someone about that having that much hate in your heart is definitely not good for the overall quality of your life. Good luck though.Wii U will be too damn extreme, (and that was the home console tho.. which is dead now). Just less successful as the SW1... 10, 20M less or/and slower adoption rate
Switch 3 = uglyswitch 1 = good
switch 2 = bad
That's a false narrative. Almost all their big IPs got a sequel during the console's first years.I thought the PS5 would flop at $500, and with very few 1st Party support.. but look at it now... Yeah. This shit will keep selling.