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Bloodborne

RESPECT

 

[Servbot24]

That hyperbole

He just wants to make sure he plays enough frames is all

 

[More_Badass]

What was the Guardian Goty 2015?

Does it matter?

But either way, Simon Parkin's 2015 GOTY was Sunless Sea

 

[S1kkZ]

i really dont know what the hell is going on with the performance of the game. the opening area= mostly solid 30 fps. after that, large drops and slowdown to sub 20 fps. now i am in an area, that is (visually) much more demanding, but it runs smooth(ish) again.

did different teams work/optimise on different areas?

i cannot wait for the digital foundry analysis. looks there is much to talk about.

if it werent for the technical problems, it would be my game of the year so far.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

What was the Guardian Goty 2015?

The top 5 was MH4U,MGSV, bloodborne, TW3 + something else i dont remember.
Their reviews are usually the only ones i care for now, aside from "for fun" reviews like ACG and videogamer.

 

[HStallion]

I did not particularly rush through that game, though I admit I also didn't find the collectibles at all interesting so I didn't bother much with that. Was done in just over 5 hours. So say 6, 7, or hell even 8 hours. But 10 hours to beat? Come on. I just don't see it with that game.

But not really the main point, which is that IMO, these early impressions lean more towards the positive a lot of the time on Gaf. Hey, I hope I am wrong and these excellent early impressions are right on point!

What is silly about this thinking is the many times early impressions sink up with long term ones. Or when a game was panned at first and became well loved over time.

 

[dEvAnGeL]

i really dont know what the hell is going on with the performance of the game. the opening area= mostly solid 30 fps. after that, large drops and slowdown to sub 20 fps. now i am in an area, that is (visually) much more demanding, but it runs smooth(ish) again.

did different teams work/optimise on different areas?

i cannot wait for the digital foundry analysis. looks there is much to talk about.

if it werent for the technical problems, it would be my game of the year so far.

OG ps4 or PRO?

 

[Ostinatto]

i really dont know what the hell is going on with the performance of the game. the opening area= mostly solid 30 fps. after that, large drops and slowdown to sub 20 fps. now i am in an area, that is (visually) much more demanding, but it runs smooth(ish) again.

did different teams work/optimise on different areas?

i cannot wait for the digital foundry analysis. looks there is much to talk about.

if it werent for the technical problems, it would be my game of the year so far.

How long are the sub 20 fps dips?

 

[silva1991]

1. Bloodborne (PS4)
2. Witcher 3 (PC/PS4/Xbox One)
3. Metal Gear Solid V (PC/PS4/Xbox One)
4. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (3DS)
5. Fallout 4 (PS4/Xbox One)

edit: beaten

Bloodborne followed by The Witcher 3.

That was my order too.

TLG is confirmed to be my GOTY 2016 <3

 

[Lion Heart]

The Last Guardian |OT| Beauty and the Beast.

 

[S1kkZ]

How long are the sub 20 fps dips?

a few areas, maybe an hour? og ps4.

 

[Jacob4815]

i really dont know what the hell is going on with the performance of the game. the opening area= mostly solid 30 fps. after that, large drops and slowdown to sub 20 fps. now i am in an area, that is (visually) much more demanding, but it runs smooth(ish) again.

did different teams work/optimise on different areas?

i cannot wait for the digital foundry analysis. looks there is much to talk about.

if it werent for the technical problems, it would be my game of the year so far.

Pro or normal PS4?

EDIT: nevermind, you answered.

 

[Ostinatto]

a few areas, maybe an hour? og ps4.

An hour playing under 20 fps? thats terrible.

 

[S1kkZ]

An hour playing under 20 fps? thats terrible.

wait for the df video. its hust how it felt to me. after the opening, the whole game felt like i was walking through molasses. now its fine and responsive again.
maybe its a bug or terrible optimisation. or maybe i am fucking crazy. but something is wrong here.

 

[WickedLaharl]

20FPS is great and perfect playable. A little drop of 5-7 FPS is nothing

I was expecting something horrible with the framerate talk

There is absolutely nothing great about 20fps

 

[Diprosalic]

That hyperbole

what hyperbole?

 

[HStallion]

There is absolutely nothing great about 20fps

Different strokes for different folks. Some people aren't as sensitive to such things. Hell I'm not bothered by jaggies and poorIQ more than poor frame rate for example.

 

[Human Trashcan]

20FPS is great and perfect playable.

lol no. Maybe you can't tell (Although I doubt it, you're just not sensitive to it apparently) that is nowhere near "great" or "perfectly" playable.

 

[More_Badass]

lol no. Maybe you can't tell (Although I doubt it, you're just not sensitive to it apparently) that is nowhere near "great" or "perfectly" playable.

IMO, it's fine. Trust me, I've played other games at 60FPS on console and PC, so I know and appreciate the difference. Or did you think I was trying to say it's "great and perfectly playable" for everyone?

 

[meanspartan]

Just gonna keep saying it...The Guardian's 2016 Game of the Year is The Last Guardian.

This goes way beyond early positive impressions like The Order got.

I haven't followed their gaming coverage, is The Guardian reputable on gaming even though they are mainstream press?

 

[More_Badass]

I haven't followed their gaming coverage, is The Guardian reputable on gaming even though they are mainstream press?

Simon Parkin is.

 

[MrHoot]

I haven't felt "an hour at 20 fps" only few select areas

 

[spekkeh]

Simon Parkin is my most respected game critic, so I'm super stoked right now.

 

[Ostinatto]

I haven't felt "an hour at 20 fps" only few select areas

og PS4 right?

 

[MrHoot]

og PS4 right?

Ye.
Not to say the performance are stellar but I didn't feel an hour long of slog at any point

 

[Mr Git]

Different strokes for different folks. Some people aren't as sensitive to such things. Hell I'm not bothered by jaggies and poorIQ more than poor frame rate for example.

My absolute computer and video games bugbear is tearing. I find it mesmerisingly distracting, moreso than IQ or framerate.

I haven't followed their gaming coverage, is The Guardian reputable on gaming even though they are mainstream press?

Yep they've got some pretty reputable writers who work/freelance for them, especially Simon Parkin.

 

[Kolx]

Was thinking mid 80s but now thinking mid 90s.

You're in for a disappointment. No matter how the good the game is the fps and the controls will drag its score heavily.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Maybe post some videos?

Also, it could be vsync, if it's really 20fps.

 

[xviper]

when does the reviews come out ?? i'm expecting 75-80

 

[Salaadin]

when does the reviews come out ?? i'm expecting 75-80

10am est tomorrow

 

[BlanketFort]

A roller coaster to the end - looking forward to picking this up and giving it a go myself.

Also, very interested to hear the GOTY-talk-exhausted Bombcast crew talk about their impressions this week.

 

[HStallion]

You're in for a disappointment. No matter how the good the game is the fps and the controls will drag its score heavily.

We shall see. The controls are like their past games and many people love them. I'm one.

 

[Jawbreaker]

There's no point in the game where there's a sustained drop to 20 FPS for an hour. Drops happen, but never for that long.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

You're in for a disappointment. No matter how the good the game is the fps and the controls will drag its score heavily.

Just like Shadow of the Colossus with its 91 meta.

 

[Mifune]

There's no point in the game where there's a sustained drop to 20 FPS for an hour. Drops happen, but never for that long.

I think he was saying that the drops added up to an hour, not a sustained hour.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

You're in for a disappointment. No matter how the good the game is the fps and the controls will drag its score heavily.

lol unfortunately reviewer rarely even notice these issuses somehow

 

[Jawbreaker]

I think he was saying that the drops added up to an hour, not a sustained hour.

Ah, okay. My mistake.

 

[MrHoot]

I think he was saying that the drops added up to an hour, not a sustained hour.

Ah that'd make more sense ye

 

[More_Badass]

Just like Shadow of the Colossus with its 91 meta.

Or Dark Souls for something more recent that 1) was a follow-up to a beloved style of game and 2) had areas with framerate issues but was insanely well-received regardless due to the overall experience

 

[Incitemaybe]

Turned on my Ps4 and was greeted with "The Last Guardian added to downloads".


Almost time

 

[Mr. Hyde]

I cannot wait for amazon to ship my preorder. Tuesday night ends a wait I thought would never end.

 

[More_Badass]

Turned on my Ps4 and was greeted with "The Last Guardian added to downloads".


Almost time

And just in time for it to sweep GOTY lists too

 

[Salaadin]

Or Dark Souls for something more recent that 1) was a follow-up to a beloved style of game and 2) had areas with framerate issues but was insanely well-received regardless due to the overall experience

Witcher 3 received tons of praise and GOTY awards and also had performance issues on all consoles.

TLG will be docked for its performance issues. The real question is whether or not everything else in the game makes up for its performance issues.

 

[HStallion]

Witcher 3 received tons of praise and GOTY awards and also had performance issues on all consoles.

TLG will be docked for its performance issues. The real question is whether or not everything else in the game makes up for its performance issues.

This is something I wanted to bring up. The Witcher 3 was a mess of technical issues when it launched on the consoles and still did incredibly well with both critics and the general audience. If the game is good, the design spot on and the package a greater sum than its parts then it will do fine.

Shit remember Skyrim and the Fallout games on the last gen consoles? They were absolute messes riddled with glitches, bugs and other issues and were most people's GOTY.

 

[Ostinatto]

This is something I wanted to bring up. The Witcher 3 was a mess of technical issues when it launched on the consoles and still did incredibly well with both critics and the general audience. If the game is good, the design spot on and the package a greater sum than its parts then it will do fine.

Shit remember Skyrim and the Fallout games on the last gen consoles? They were absolute messes riddled with glitches, bugs and other issues and were most people's GOTY.

You have a point there, but they are mostly multiplatforms, first party exclusive games should not have those kind of issues imo.

 

[More_Badass]

You have a point there, but they are mostly multiplatforms, first party exclusive games should not have those kind of issues imo.

What does multiplatform versus first party have do with it?

Even Bloodborne had framerate issues, and was incredibly well reviewed and received

 

[Y2Kev]

Some of the puzzles are so clever. I just got one I had been struggling with for ten minutes. Physics based. Really cool.

 

[xxracerxx]

Some of the puzzles are so clever. I just got one I had been struggling with for ten minutes. Physics based. Really cool.

Excellent.

 

[Ostinatto]

What does multiplatform versus first party have do with it?

Even Bloodborne had framerate issues, and was incredibly well reviewed and received

Just because is a lot harder to make software running on multiple platforms.

 

[HStallion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWQFz-JWzQs

They just released the fifth of the live action TLG Japanese ads about the long wait for fans. This one is about some employees in a convenience store discussing a magazine with TLG on the cover. Not sure what they're saying but the ending is a customer walking in and looking shocked to see TLG on the magazine cover and a rack full of them.