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The Last of Us Part I (Remake) | Review Thread
I am ashamed to say this is my third time purchasing this game. To be fair I still had about fifty bucks in PSN credit so I only payed about twenty which is actually a fair price.
Banjo64
cumsessed
As for price.
Not sure why they didn’t tie in a TLoU 2 Director’s Cut for the new show and then remaster TLoU for PS6 in 7 years when it would blow minds and introduce a new gen to the story. Poorly timed in my mind.
SeraphJan
Member
Maybe I'm no a true fan, but this might be the first Naughty Dog game that I'm unwilling to pay full price.
I might pick up later on Steam, to me the PS4 Remastered especially played on PS5 is not outdated at all
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I don't blame you. It is not like it is a new game but I was looking to replay it anyway and twenty dollars of my own money is a good price.
Hugare
Member
Bought on PS3, PS4 and now PS5
No other big releases on the horizon (for me), so fuck it, $70 it is for one of my favorite games.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Of course it matters, are you saying prices of all products don't matter? Not sure why I would have to explain why it shouldn't be full priced, but here goes.
- it's the same game, people have played it before. Typically consumers aren't keen and paying full price a second or third time for something they have paid for prior
- it doesn't take as many resources or expense to create said game
- yes, indeed a middle ground might have been nice, at least an upgrade fee for those who bought the ps4 remaster.
So of course it matters. In my case they won't get a dime, at least for now. Had they priced it at $30 I probably would have bought it right away.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Me
I enjoy TLOU1 far more than 2 in terms of pacing and story
So even if it’s basically a part 2 reskin, part 2 looks great
Nah I am not white knighting it. I simply pointed out that multiplayer was equally important to some people. I agreed there was some hyperbole in that entire statement but there was some truth. You somehow landed on the other end of the spectrum.. calling it completely bullshit when clearly there is enough there to be a common discussion point between many reviews. Pulling out price charts and splitting hairs to try to dismiss a subjective opinion based on someone else's experience.
Okay bro it's half the game (if you played multiplayer as much a singleplayer) for %175 of the price (If you are paying in British pounds). Is that close enough for you?
SeraphJan
Member
Call me crazy, but I actually enjoyed part 2 more.
Maybe its because I don't agree with how Joel handled the firefly situation at the end of part 1, while I understand why he did it, but it felt morally wrong for me which toked me out of the immersion. I really wished there was at least a choice.
So when he died in part 2, I felt he deserved it.
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John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
Perfect for someone who has never played it & owns a PS5.
For me who already did 3 walkthroughs back then everything is still too fresh in my mind to give it another go.
For me who already did 3 walkthroughs back then everything is still too fresh in my mind to give it another go.
From a gameplay perspective 2 is actually much better and overall I enjoyed it more than 1. I love Joel but I realize that it was sooner or later before his actions would catch up with him and if you are playing TLOU for happy Hallmark stories you are playing the wrong franchise.
bender
What time is it?
I was like you until I saw Bill's new model. Time to go through grounded for the 4th time.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
My main complaint isn’t with what happened to Joel but the structure of the game and tons of walk n talk segments
xrnzaaas
Member
I'd also love to have 50 bucks magically appear in my wallet so I could spend less on a nextgen game
itsjustJEFF
Member
I like ShillUp's review. He left all of his bias for the game behind and judge it objectively. He made a lot of good points.
OT: I don't really care what this game scores, the OG version is the one I played. But, If I had to guess... it'll get lower than the OG if for nothing but the price, which is a valid reason. If it's not worth it to you, then I can see that affecting the score.
Topher
Identifies as young
Or just cut out the bullshit and say it costs more and has less.
SLB1904
Banned
That don't exist lol
There is nothing objective about tastes bruh
itsjustJEFF
Member
Ashamed? Don't be. If it's worth it to you, then its a worthy purchase. It's not worth it to me, I've had my fill of TLOU, but I don't poopoo on those who do. It's always a matter of worth, to you the buyer.
When Returnal comes to PC I'll be double dipping and some ppl will think that's dumb. When they FINAAAALLLLLYYYY release that Bloodborne Remake/Remaster whatever it is on PC/PS5... I'll be there day one LOL
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Kokoloko85
Member
Id say its a bit more work than a patch. Has another game made an upgrade like this via a patch?
Elder Legend
Banned
Reviews are both objective and subjective. However, in my eyes an Objective review is when the game is being judged basted on what it's trying to achieve and sell.
So to give you an example -
The Last of Us Part 1 is trying to sell you on new visuals, gameplay improvements, dualsense features and so on. So when I was reviewing this title those are the things I was paying the most attention to. If those additions/features are well done and do the job they set out to do.
A subjective review for The Last of Us Part 1 would end up like this - Meh, I do not like post apocalypse setting. Omg too much walking. Omg too many cut scenes and I hate them! Omg 5/10 shit game with shit themes and annoying cut scenes !
A person reviewing the game or any game for that matter needs to understand its intended design. Now whether that design and idea is well executed is a different story.
For example - Hypothetically speaking I could not like Last of Us because of its setting or the fact that it has too many cut scenes but that doesn't make it a bad game and I'd have to put my personal tastes to the side and still look at it objectively as possible.
I may not like the cut scenes , but that doesn't mean they are poorly done or the game deserves a bad score because I do not like cut scenes.
You see what I am saying? It's a hard thing to balance and not everyone can do it well. That's why when we review games we try to be honest and transparent as possible. If an individual is solely judging a game based on his or hers personal tastes then they are absolutely horrible at their job and should not be allowed to review anything moving forward. Very few people can actually properly review games.
This is why majority of the reviews you see from a variety of websites are complete shit. Either the reviewer is not getting what he or she exactly wants out of the game so they judge the game completely based of their own fantasy when in reality they should look at what the game is trying to do in the first place.
In the review I mentioned that Tess looks quite a bit older if you look at her face. Some people may like that and some may not. So I specifically said that subjectively it didn't bother me but it may bother others. However, I did not take or add points because that's purely a subjective matter. Meanwhile, some degenerate write will take the points off because his now upset that Tess looks older. This is childish and not objective at all.
I hope this explains it, it's kind of hard to do over text , but it's the best explanation I can give. Whether you agree with it or not is up to you.
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Elder Legend
Banned
Read my explanation that I've posted above. You are mixing looking at a product with a objective perspective versus I like it or not taste.
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Noted. The next time I hear someone say "I could eat a horse" or "It's funny you should say that" I am going to make sure to call them out on the accuracy. That's no way to interact with someone with such lies. Idioms are for idiots I say.
Topher
Identifies as young
Saying the price of a game has doubled is not an idiom. If the author had said the game costs "an arm and a leg" then I wouldn't have said anything about it.
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Bartski
Gold Member
that poll could be interesting
Maybe not an idiom down to the exact definition but it's a common expression. You never heard "half the x for double the price" before?
Anyway I am done discussing this. It's clear that we disagree what a review should be. I thought it was widely understood that they are subjective opinion pieces on games and that people tend to follow reviewers that align more with their tastes. You seem to want this to be more of an exact science based on what I am reading. I am not going to change any opinions here.
SLB1904
Banned
Ii got your explanation. I was talking about in a more general term when you are try to recommend something to an audience.
For me personally I'm always on a left field when comes to movies. There movies a regard as best times the reviews reviews sometimes don't reflect thatOf course you can be objive with the technicalities of things bit when it comes down to experiencing a product it will come down to the user.
Topher
Identifies as young
I'm not discussing "what a review should be". I'm talking about a single line summarizing a game. The only times I've heard something similar to "half the x for double the price" is when the person saying actually meant "half the x for double the price". When talking about factual matters, I prefer reviews to stick to facts. And you are right, you are not going to change my opinion on that. Not sure why you would even care to, frankly.
Mercenary09
Member
My issue with the price getting brought up is that these same reviewers don't bring that shit up when Wii U ports or 3DS games get put on Switch for $60 with next to no improvements. At least Naughty Dog put a ton of work into this. Fuck out of here with that nonsense.
Hugare
Member
Perception of value is subjective, as well as reviews.
The Orange Box release made waves back then because it was 3 incredible games in one box. Its bang for buck value was mentioned in all of the reviews.
Mentioning price is part of the review process. Me as a potential buyer always want to know if I'll get my money worth.
Especially when I'll be paying "premium" for a remake
If you think that "price dont matter" just because the game is selling well, then you are a fool. Because a lot of people also wont buy it due to its price tag.
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ChiefDada
Member
That's a conclusion only you can reach. If that mindset were to be applied equitably, then every single game would have it's own thread about whether it's worth $xx. Why? Because we all value different games differently for our own unique reasons.
But you're not. This is the standard price of a PS5 game.
Games of Today
Member
It's actually astounding. The amount of improvement that Naughty Dog makes in just a few years in incredibly impressive. Just look at Uncharted 4 compared to Lost Legacy. And this example right here is wild!"The Last Of Us Part I is just The Last Of Us Part II with higher resolution!!!"
yeah sure.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
good on Niel for pitching the support.
The market has spoken. Reviewers knocking review scores because they don't agree with pricing is foolish, full stop.
It's literally its launch weekend in a market where we are all starved for games. Lets see how its sales do in a couple of weeks.
Theres enough hardcore fans to purchase this week one to push it to number one in all charts. Especially for september. UK will be the same next week. I dont think it will sell gangbusters at 70 pounds but its a perfect bundle game for xmas.
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Then I must have severe reading comprehension problems because half of your replies in our entire convo were just that, how the reviewer should have said it based on your preferences. You just did it here again, you prefer reviews to stick to facts when talking about factual manners. Then in another breath you go on about how most people play it for single player so multiplayer is not half the game. Why you chose to focus on some exact accuracy and then say shit like that in the next post is beyond me.
What the person said here is no less objectively correct than another reviewer saying something like "mind blowing graphics" or some similarly sensationalist statement. I think what's happening here is that you simply don't agree with his opinion on value and called bullshit when it's clear this isn't a rare opinion among other reviewers. They just said it in a way closer to your liking.
And yes I've heard "half the x for double the money" or "double the money for half the x" in many contexts both online and offline when comparing shit like cars, android vs apple, video games, etc. So knowing that this is a pretty common expression makes your problems with it even more puzzling to me. Your posts were coming across as one of those "ackchyually" lifetime defenders.
And no I don't want to change your opinion and nor am I trying to. I thought that was clear enough from my post.
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ChiefDada
Member
Perhaps, but then how is that different from any other game? And if it isn't any different (it's not) then why are reviewers making a big deal out of it? You had most folks complaining about pricing as if Sony should have launched the game at a lower introductory price. That isn't smart business.
Hugare
Member
I can say the same about your conclusion. It's stupid.
You think people dont value their money? And do you think that the games prices dont affect sales?
We dont have thread specific for this, but this is something that everyone with a brain think about before buying anything. And that's why its mentioned in so many reviews, not only for this game.
And you are right, this is the price of a PS5 game. Not a remastered PS3 game.
To say that it had the same budget to make as Returnal, for example, is just absurd.
I bought it, but I know that I'm paying "premium" for it, and the $70 is not justified because it had the same budget as GOW Ragnarok, despite both being sold by the same price.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Not an upgrade but we had a full price PS5 game that before release suddenly went from 70$ to PS+ before so if this suddenly went from a 70$ to a free upgrade to PS+ subscribers it wouldn't be weird.
Elder Legend
Banned
This guy sounds like his about to cry. You could smell the soy from looking at the screen. Typical basement dwelling goblin lol.
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ZoukGalaxy
Member
Still doesn't worth 70€
40€ at WORST.
Will wait discount at 30€ one day.
40€ at WORST.
Will wait discount at 30€ one day.
FunkMiller
Banned
Still one of the greatest games ever made.
Still not buying a game I've played through multiple times for £70.
Still not buying a game I've played through multiple times for £70.
ChiefDada
Member
Huh? But we both reached the same conclusion in deciding to purchase for $70, so aren't we both stupid using your logic?
No one said this and budget isn't the only deciding factor when it comes to product pricing.
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