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[ForsakenLotus]

My dislike of Lost comes from the fact that it's very clear they had no idea what they were doing and didn't really have any convictions. Stuff like Paolo and Nikki, which is perhaps the biggest example of the "soap opera-ey" nature of the show's planning.

The Leftovers is better in that they don't have the opportunity to just make things up as they go along, particularly since this is the last season, but if they are going to introduce ideas like Kevin being the next messiah and not follow through with any of that, then I know I'll be annoyed with this season, if not the show as a whole.

I think part of what you are describing is the growing dichotomy between science and religion in Lost. Clearly not everything could be explained through just science, but the show kept leaning on scientific explanations while giving us religious themes and showing us religious cues/iconography.

That's what is interesting about this season so far, in that they are essentially working with a similar playbook. Although I'm much more confident in how this will end than Lost and we won't get the muddled middle seasons since The Leftovers has been a tight, and ultimately short show.

Edit: The Departed was a great movie.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

I'm going to see Metallica on Sunday. I'm obviously psyched, but I'm also missing this season's Matt episode. I'm gonna have to be strong and not look at this thread/reddit/AV club/Sepinwall till I get home and watch.

 

[T Dollarz]

I'm going to see Metallica on Sunday. I'm obviously psyched, but I'm also missing this season's Matt episode. I'm gonna have to be strong and not look at this thread/reddit/AV club/Sepinwall till I get home and watch.

I'm seeing Metallica on a sunday night next month!

The Matt episode last season is my favorite episode of the series.

 

[SickBoy]

Over the last two days I've learned that not everyone thinks Nora is awesome?

It's fine if they don't explain the departures, but if they don't explain what is happening to Kevin (whether it's supernatural or just simple psychosis), I know I'll be disappointed.

I'm not sure I need an explanation... just a satisfying leaving-off point with whatever else being open to interpretation (or not... I don't need an explanation, but if I get one, I'm OK with that, too).

FWIW, I'm pretty firmly on Team Supernatural now. -- there's the stuff that happened last season (and how it ties to what we learn this season). It seems to me that Kevin seeing Evie on Good Morning Melbourne and then going to that same spot so his dad can see him on the show seems much more like some sort of providence... otherwise it's an incredibly "lucky" psychotic break, right?

 

[Doodis]

I'm seeing Metallica on a sunday night next month!

The Matt episode last season is my favorite episode of the series.

Matt episode season one is my favorite. I loved that tightly contained story. Him waking up too late was just the best.

Over the last two days I've learned that not everyone thinks Nora is awesome?

People that think that are the ones that aren't awesome.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Matt episode season one is my favorite. I loved that tightly contained story. Him waking up too late was just the best.

I like when he won his last hand on the roulette wheel and turned his head and smiled.

 

[BlueTsunami]

I'm going to see Metallica on Sunday. I'm obviously psyched, but I'm also missing this season's Matt episode. I'm gonna have to be strong and not look at this thread/reddit/AV club/Sepinwall till I get home and watch.

Its ok, we won't spoiler Kevins ascension to the holy throne made purely of beards

 

[digitalrelic]

My problem with Lost was that you have all these mysteries about the island and the computer code and a boatload of other things, and in the end they just gloss over it all with a "

Spoiler

they're all dead

" answer.

It's basically as bad as ending the show with "

Spoiler

and it was all just a dream!

"

Wow. Not to sound condescending, but you really didn't understand the ending of LOST at all. You may want to rewatch it, or at least read up on it.

 

[neurosisxeno]

I think this season is a lot more like season two. It's going to be setting things up for the first half and just go absolutely bananas in the second half. The last 3-4 episodes of season two were absolutely amazing, but the beginning was pretty boring. I am so pumped for a Matt episode though. I will definitely say the cinematography in this season is a huge improvement from the past two.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Wow. Not to sound condescending, but you really didn't understand the ending of LOST at all. You may want to rewatch it, or at least read up on it.

Yea I'm always surprised at how many people didn't understand the ending when it felt like they spent so much time actually explaining it in the show. At the time I felt they were over explaining the concept but then the next day I saw a large number of people that didn't understand it

 

[MegaSackman]

Just finished season 1, fucking amazing!

Have to sleep now, I'll catch up for the next sunday, I'll probably finish season 2 in a couple of days.

Finished season 2, simply sensational, one of the best shows I've seen.
I'll catch up on 3 tomorrow.

Hope we get a proper ending and not a Penny Dreadful one, that series was clearly a not three seasons show.

 

[Kadayi]

Finished season 2, simply sensational, one of the best shows I've seen.
I'll catch up on 3 tomorrow.

Hope we get a proper ending and not a Penny Dreadful one, that series was clearly a not three seasons show.

They knew when writing the third season it was the last, so don't sweat it. This isn't a case of cancellation.

 

[karmaforgotme]

I'm seeing Metallica on a sunday night next month!
.

Now I wonder how many members of Metallica departed? I hope they all did but Lars, and it is driving him crazy right now. (Enjoy the show. I've seen Metallica in 89, 92, and 96, and they always put on a great show).

 

[DJKhaled]

Finished season 2, simply sensational, one of the best shows I've seen.
I'll catch up on 3 tomorrow.

Hope we get a proper ending and not a Penny Dreadful one, that series was clearly a not three seasons show.

But it is a three season show and was written like that.

 

[MegaSackman]

They knew when writing the third season it was the last, so don't sweat it. This isn't a case of cancellation.

Hope it turns out well, I'll watch the third today.

But it is a three season show and was written like that.

You mean Leftovers? If it was always like that then great, it should wrap thing well even if it leaves some for interpretation.

 

[hank_tree]

Hope it turns out well, I'll watch the third today.



You mean Leftovers? If it was always like that then great, it should wrap thing well even if it leaves some for interpretation.

Leftovers wasn't originally envisioned as a three season show. But they knew that season 3 was the last before they even started writing it.

 

[Doodis]

Wow. Not to sound condescending, but you really didn't understand the ending of LOST at all. You may want to rewatch it, or at least read up on it.

Haha. It has been a while.

 

[MegaSackman]

Leftovers wasn't originally envisioned as a three season show. But they knew that season 3 was the last before they even started writing it.

Well, I don't remember but I think something similar happened to Penny Dreadful, I've seen the interview with Logan in which he tells the opposite but I didn't buy it, the ending felt rushed like... a lot, everyone saw it that way.

Anyway, is not a rule and it doesn't mean that it will happen here is just that the situation reminded me to that case.

 

[Spikematic]

This show is unbelievably awesome. Yet another masterpiece of an episode. All the hatin' on last week's episode and Kevin Sr. makes me sad though. Scott Glenn is a treasure, damn you guys!

 

[digitalrelic]

Haha. It has been a while.

Lol yeah,

Spoiler

they weren't all dead in LOST. Not at all. The show made it explicitly clear, and one of the characters literally stated that they weren't all dead.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

Leftovers wasn't originally envisioned as a three season show. But they knew that season 3 was the last before they even started writing it.

Yup, a bit of color to this is that they would only do it if it was going to be the last season.

 

[JaseC]

Oh, man. "Oh, are you afraid you're going to give that one away, too?" killed me.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Oh, man. "Oh, are you afraid you're going to give that one away, too?" killed me.

The 👏 clapbacks towards Nora have been vicious this season

 

[MegaSackman]

Finally I'm up to date... now I have to wait for single episodes after watching the whole show in four days.

I suck at watching series.

 

[Theorry]

LEFTOVERS THEORY: Kevin is Not Crazy

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I can't with that dude capitalizing the H lmfao

 

[Saty]

I don't remember, did Kevin retell the events of 'limbo world' to Matt for them to appear in the book?

 

[hank_tree]

I don't remember, did Kevin retell the events of 'limbo world' to Matt for them to appear in the book?

Not on screen.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

I don't remember, did Kevin retell the events of 'limbo world' to Matt for them to appear in the book?

Assume he told John's son right after coming out of the ground.

 

[Sober]

I can't with that dude capitalizing the H lmfao

Yeah I lost it the moment I noticed that detail.

 

[Erigu]

I don't remember, did Kevin retell the events of 'limbo world' to Matt for them to appear in the book?

I guess we're supposed to assume he did so off-screen. And is now calling them crazy for taking it seriously. Whose fault is that, Kevin?

 

[ThLunarian]

I guess we're supposed to assume he did so off-screen. And is now calling them crazy for taking it seriously. Whose fault is that, Kevin?

We've disagreed on this before, but I'll never understand your apparent desire for fictional characters to behave completely logically at all times

 

[Erigu]

We've disagreed on this before, but I'll never understand your apparent desire for fictional characters to behave completely logically at all times

I'd like them to be consistent. Considering how Kevin reacted when he learned the book existed, it's kinda hard to imagine him describing in every detail his stay at Purgatory Hotel.

 

[TheNatureBoy]

Just watched the latest episode, that final shot of Nora was tremendous.

Such a brutal fight between her and Kevin, damn Kevin.

BTW - I still ride for Lost including the final season and the finale. There are definitely elements of that show in a good way that carry over to The Leftovers.

This show has the belt right now (for The Watch listeners).

 

[RatskyWatsky]

New episode tonight!

It's a Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt World

Spoiler

Matt heads to Australia to bring Kevin home when he's convinced he should be in Miracle for the seventh anniversary of the Departure.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Seeing folks hype this episode quite a bit on Twitter. I'm pumped

 

[blame space]

I can't wait.

 

[Sober]

Matt episode? I can believe the hype.

 

[~Kinggi~]

lmao

 

[Sadsic]

"whispering in french"

 

[Baroquemantic]

Quite the opening.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I was cooking, where did the nuke hit?

 

[MontlyCure]

I knew we would see that man's penis.

 

[Baroquemantic]

I wouldn't have even been mad if they crashed on an island just then.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

hahahahah

That smug look on Matt's face

 

[Sadsic]

wtf is this song lol

 

[Baroquemantic]

Lmao at all of this

 

[~Kinggi~]

lmao holy crap

 

[Merchandise]

I don't like any of this so far

Mostly because I despise Matt very much

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I don't like any of this so far

Mostly because I despise Matt very much

He doesn't look too hot