I read two negative reviews on Steam. One was some kind of weird "everyone else is praising this game, so I will offer a differing negative opinion even though I don't actually think this game is bad" review and the other was clearly by a person who sucked at playing the game, complaining about the first dungeon and something about constantly running out of HP and having to go back to the resting place (which is weird because he claimed to have played through FC without any problems).
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC |OT| More Olivier Than Ever
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To be fair, I've talked to people who played Ys and assumed you were supposed to start FC/SC on the hardest available difficulty (because Oath in Felghana and Origin were fucking awesome on Nightmare) and were suddenly like 'wow what? hard/nightmare are just fucking grinding?' and I had to tell them that normal is actually normal for Trails.
Oh, now that you say it, I actually commented on that second review a couple days ago (after I finished playing through SC). Mostly because you can see that the reviewer has played the game for 60 hours by now and I was kinda curios if he still dislikes it. He didn't reply to me, though. ;(
BassForever
Member
Oh wow you guys weren't kidding chapter 9
Also people who've played TC
Josette is bad, like is there any way to make her remotely decent outside of lol denede slippers?
Also people who've played TC
Is she any better in TC? I was excited to use Josette but it'll be tough to justify after a certain point in SC
Not really. Still like the kid that would be picked last in P.E., only to complete a team.
BassForever
Member
... Damn :[
Like who thought it was a good idea
to give her a craft that is the same as Kloe's but without the attack down which is far more valuable?
So I was on the final chapter of my full BP new game + playthrough of FC, knew that I had a while to go and just thought screw it. Loaded up my save at the final scene, watched it and straight into SC. Already its glorious. Just met Kevin on the plane, knew it was him when he was called 'Unsensitive Jerk', he seems fun.
And now I'm running around Rolent all excited to see what's changed, it's almost too much to take!
And now I'm running around Rolent all excited to see what's changed, it's almost too much to take!
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Craft at least damages enemies, which is more than can be said for
Kaempfer
I've heard
bringing Kloe and Josette to the Loewe fight
Augemitbutter
Member
ch.6 was very good.
the hype is back.
good gameplay/story balance. the mayor's steward, lol. estelle was surprisingly badass in this chapter.
the hype is back.
Really? I took him along with
Olivier
BassForever
Member
Chapter 9
.................................BLORF.......................
Finished the prologue, so good. Hell even the intro before the prologue was great. I didn't even figure everything out until after the battle and comparing the battle styles in my head. Great hearing all the returning music and the new music is great so far too.
Already a lot more happening than the start of FC, really does feel like the second half of FC in every way, doesn't even feel like a different game at all in many ways and that's exactly what I wanted.
Already a lot more happening than the start of FC, really does feel like the second half of FC in every way, doesn't even feel like a different game at all in many ways and that's exactly what I wanted.
Interestingly, I got this even though I didn't get full BP in chapter 6, and I missed a hidden side quest that I believe
Gilbert is in
Same. Much like I got the Anton sidequest thingy outta nowhere and before I even finished it.
Well, the achievement's
description says "Don't ever lose to him". You didn't technically lose to him by not beating him in chapter 6 (I assume you just ran out of time during that, which I would count as a draw) or outright missing him in chapter 8.
I think that's what it was. I assumed you'd have to
encounter him every time and win each encounter. I wonder if you could miss the Jenis one out too. I didn't lose to him though (ran out of time like you said) so technically it's not wrong.
Final boss spoilers
http://i.imgur.com/OLvYaJb.jpg
Phew. Mueller got sucked away midway through the fight, but apart from that it was mostly painless. Loewe fight was bananas on other hand.
Can't really say I'm satisfied with the Oroborous/Aidios/Aureule plotline. For two games that are like wat, long as 3 LotR, you really get very few backstory on the game-world religion.
The nature of the Goddess in the Sky and the Aureule is vague as it was in the beginning.
Phew. Mueller got sucked away midway through the fight, but apart from that it was mostly painless. Loewe fight was bananas on other hand.
Can't really say I'm satisfied with the Oroborous/Aidios/Aureule plotline. For two games that are like wat, long as 3 LotR, you really get very few backstory on the game-world religion.
The nature of the Goddess in the Sky and the Aureule is vague as it was in the beginning.
Se7enSword
Banned
Whew, finally cleared Chapter 7.
Had some difficulty against Renne's fight at first, but easily mitigated that with some deathblow prevention items.
Anyways, so THAT's the Aureole o_o
Anyways, so THAT's the Aureole o_o
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The data crystals give some details about the Aureole, that clears up a decent amount about it. I think the rest of the questions remain because they are key elements of the story for the entire series, not just these two games.
Eh, sort of?
And you know, my biggest complaint about FC and SC is that you can't move + action. But the enemies can. Does this EVER get fixed in a future entry, or are we forever forced to choose to move OR perform an action?
Se7enSword
Banned
Yeah, EVO series has it afaik.
Don't know about the other sequels, but I assume it should be implemented.
Also, sort of, huh. Hopefully I get to read up on those
Stopped deciphering after it took me too much time.
Don't know about the other sequels, but I assume it should be implemented.
Also, sort of, huh. Hopefully I get to read up on those
data crystals.
Augemitbutter
Member
damn, this game is easy enough already. you want to be even more powerful?
Dragon1893
Member
Had to try several times until I managed to win that fight in chapter 6 before the time limit. Eventually I got a perfect storm of having the enemies were I wanted them and critical turns.
Had a lot of fun trying to figure out the right strategy with what I had available.
I like it when fights
Had a lot of fun trying to figure out the right strategy with what I had available.
I like it when fights
have different outcomes depending on your performance.
Do they? They really don't tell much about the Aureole itself in the end other than it grants wishes and it's semi-sentient. They are mostly on how it was sealed.
The very nature of the Aureole and as well Aidios herself is basically unexplained. Not even few hints are given.
The very nature of the Aureole and as well Aidios herself is basically unexplained. Not even few hints are given.
max_505
Member
Decipher as in you read it with all the blacked out/redacted text?
It'll be deciphered a couple at a time in the last chapter, I think after you unlock a new area/beat some mini-bosses/trigger some important cutscenes. Check the work station (left corner of the room) near where Prof. Russell is standing (inside the Arseille) to read the data crystals
Dragon1893
Member
Just ran into a pretty annoying glitch. After the fight in chapter 6 I mentioned above my character was constantly getting stuck, forcing me to reload my save.
I was starting to worry that I wouldn't be able to get out of there.
It seems to happen whenever I get close to those barriers that raise from the ground.
I was starting to worry that I wouldn't be able to get out of there.
It seems to happen whenever I get close to those barriers that raise from the ground.
Se7enSword
Banned
Yeah, I got this too. Doesn't seem common considering I've yet to see anyone else here talk about it. I think maybe it's a bug that might have been introduced in the last patch.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, basically that. But apparently the story still isn't done with the Aureole after SC, let alone the other Sept Terrions.
It's more that it's just annoying. The game is clearly balanced around not being able to move and do actions, but I shouldn't have to decide to have a character waste a turn and do nothing because performing an action will be detrimental to the next character's turn - something that could be alleviated if you could position yourself and perform an action.
It also makes line arts completely useless in reality, even though they are interesting in theory.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
I've heard people say the same about Chains, but like Line Arts they're situational and excellent when you've buffed up speed and manipulated turn order just right. Something like Ragna Blast can be more useful than Flicker. You have to learn enemies' behaviors and game them into taking action the way you want, of course; Chains remain the ditch option for eliminating monsters from turn progression.
Re: The Artifact,
.
Re: "Blorf",
.
Re: The Artifact,
we need to know if Aidios's gifts are basically magic or if they have a science behind them you could hack in the right circumstances. The Aureole is an over-protective miracle engine that naturally lead to Liber Ark centering around leisure, which spiraled out of control and became drug-like addiction, destroying the citizens emotionally. It's a pseudo-sentient opium transmitter which also happens to harness any Orbal energy around it, and (most importantly) controls Aidios's element of space, being able to wrap itself into new dimensions. I'd say a few hints are given, and obviously Falcom's got more games to go before explaining the full history of Zemuria and Aidios
Re: "Blorf",
just fight Gilbert every time (including the Jenis hidden quest) and don't lose. You're not fit to be a Bracer if Dalmore's former steward can beat you
Also
there are six more god damned Sept-Terrions. The fact that the Aureole was so god damned powerful makes me wonder what the hell the others do.
Elaugaufein
Member
Nightengale
Member
there a good story summary somewhere?
I played this quite a bit when it was released but got fatigued on it just after finishing chapter 7 and stopped playing for a while
about time I finished it but i've probably forgotten quite a few things stopping for like three weeks almost 50 hours in the way I did
I played this quite a bit when it was released but got fatigued on it just after finishing chapter 7 and stopped playing for a while
about time I finished it but i've probably forgotten quite a few things stopping for like three weeks almost 50 hours in the way I did
Meant 'more'.
BassForever
Member
If you were buying the liberl news along the way you should be able to simply read those for a recap of the main plot.
Augemitbutter
Member
i didn't test this, but it always felt like you lost less turn points if you chose to move.
i understand this is another cpu walks forward to hit you with a flash kick street fighter 2 situation.
yes, line arts are very situational, but they're balanced. compare that to those op cookies. i bet you could win the game just with cookies.
BassForever
Member
The game even knows this giving you an op food item right before one of the harder battles for 100% in the game in chapter 6
This is true. Turn delay is reduced if you move w/o any other action.
Dragon1893
Member
Man, the ending of chapter 6...that was great. Kudos to the writers and our friends at CF/XSeed once again.
Estelle never disappoints, her lines and facial expressions are an incredible combo.
Estelle never disappoints, her lines and facial expressions are an incredible combo.
What was that update? It broke my controller, I had to re-configure it (and even then I can't walk anymore: it is stuck in perma-run or perma-walk, no matter how I push the left Joystick).
Edit: Oh crap. It completly blocked the directions. I no longer have the freedom of movement of before, I'm restricted to the N-NE-E-SE-S-SW-W-NW axis!
Edit: Oh crap. It completly blocked the directions. I no longer have the freedom of movement of before, I'm restricted to the N-NE-E-SE-S-SW-W-NW axis!
Sounds like the analog setting might be turned off, essentially forcing you into digital mode. That's the only way the stick could be stuck to 8-directional movement too.
The thing is, it isn't. The Analog box in the option menu is ticked. Everything worked perfectly, and after today's update it suddenly doesn't. I managed to somehow make the analog setting work again (by switching from "XBOX 360 for Windows" to "Wireless controller" - I use a PS4 gamepag with the "DS4 to XInput" software), but now the game considers that the camera is always rotating (the Rotate Left/Rotate Right is always ON now). This is becoming very annoying.
Edition: I didn't know you were a developper Sara. Didn't realize you and the Sara from the Steam forums were the same person. Had I known that, my message here would have been more formal and less complainy. My apologies.
Disabling the Right Stick Camera solved my camera issue, allowing me to resume playing normally. Thank you!
Yes the controls are all gimped now. Hopefully they had enough fixes for everything else to make it worthwhile. Lol.