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The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC |OT| More Olivier Than Ever
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SatelliteOfLove
Member
SC spoilers and hypothesis for beyond that:
Everything in these games seems to revolve around "And Man Grew Proud" and the sheer breakneck technological explosion of a continent going from horseback and steam to clean-burning, anti-gravity/heat/cold/computer/light magitech wonderment.
The switcheroo of "broken puppet playing a good teen boy" for "good teen boy playing a broken puppet", how others come to realize this, the circumstances of the reunion, and Falcom sticking the landing of "true love conquers all" is breathtaking.
I didn't know how they were going to pull that off at the end of FC and for 4 and a half years I couldn't imagine how, and there it was.
I didn't know how they were going to pull that off at the end of FC and for 4 and a half years I couldn't imagine how, and there it was.
afreaknamedpete
Member
Do I really need to fish in this game? I'm okay with the occasional fishing quest but please don't tell me I need to fill out the fish compendium for bracer points.
You really only need to fish for an achievement. There some nice benefits to fishing like some nice accessories and it can be a good source of sepith, but it isn't necessary for BP outside of one quest where you simply need to locate fishing spots.
I really don't think it's all that big of a deal. They've known each other
for only five years. Estelle even says 'oh well, I tried to be a surrogate sister for you for a little while but it didn't work out' (obviously a paraphrase.) If they met when they were like, babies or whatever it would be way weirder.
Also that one quest where you need to fish up a
Pearlglass as part of a set of ingredients
You make it sound like a problem. And no not really Final Fantasy games like say 8 or 9 use their main themes as leitmotifs far more often
Augemitbutter
Member
it's not a problem. i just prefer more variety. i don't need to listen to the same leitmotif every 2nd track
it's not a problem. i just prefer more variety. i don't need to listen to the same leitmotif every 2nd track
Well, it's far more common in the Liberl trilogy. Falcom goes more traditional JDK with their soundtracks afterwards and you'll get tons of unique songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SURHkKSLXXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5qTXDHk-aY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3WXoUZ4R_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LErG7at1_0
Augemitbutter
Member
Ah right, that one slipped my mind.
Augemitbutter
Member
chapter 9
anything special happen if you bring olivier and kloe to fight bleu? i had zane with me to fight walter and that was pretty cool.
ChickenHunter
Member
Theres a few unique lines but nothing too important. Just Zane and Schera get significant changes for their bosses.
Augemitbutter
Member
kk thanks.
BassForever
Member
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
BassForever
Member
skLaFarebear
Member
Chapter 7
I did not realize how gameplay heavy this chapter was gonna be. Still having a ton of fun with it though especially with how Joshua and Estelle are carrying the team. Also the enforcer boss theme is fucking amazing.
ChickenHunter
Member
As well as
Olivier + Mueller
Trails of Cold Steel
I had those two with me and totally missed whatever that was.
Augemitbutter
Member
okay. i will check that out.
ChickenHunter
Member
I imagine that since Cold Steel is in Erebonia and follows some new special class of characters in a Military Acadamey and Olivier is the Prince, he probably will be setting up a lot of what they do from behind the scenes. Likely to try and "shed some light on the things that need it most." Probably whatever that Erebonian ambassador guy is up to. Though I could be wrong. I just figured that Olivier has a lot of unfinished business in Erebonia
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Just curious, anyone in this thread going to be playing Xenoblade X? I wondered if the JRPG crowd that plays this game is the same that is going to be playing X.
I consider TiTs to be the best 2D JRPG of all time, and Xenoblade Chronicles to be the best 3D JRPG. Wondered if anyone else valued the two franchises alike.
I consider TiTs to be the best 2D JRPG of all time, and Xenoblade Chronicles to be the best 3D JRPG. Wondered if anyone else valued the two franchises alike.
Dice//
Banned
I feel you and me would be good friends,... at least as far as VG banter goes
I'm still in chapter 8, so no. They weren't kidding when they said this game was looooooooong. Certainly feels way longer than Xenoblade Chronicles, probably because the side-quests are actually important to the lore, unlike the mostly skippable fetch quests in that game.
BassForever
Member
Best 2D JRPG of all time? Nah that's still Chrono Trigger, though I'd consider Trails FC/SC to be in the top 5 and I'd put them in my top 10 favorite/best games ever. I like XCX not sure if I'd call it the best 3D jrpg but it's also very high up there.
I'll be playing XCX as well, but since I have this on Steam and the Wii U is in my living room, I'll end up playing them at different times and will just be making slow progress in both. Considering how long it took me to get through FC when I was playing <hour per day it will be years before I finish both assuming I keep it up. Though I do have some time off coming up around the holidays so maybe I'll get to blaze though one or the other.
I've always said Suikoden II is my favorite JRPG of all time, but FC has pushed its way up into that list, but I'm not sure it can ever beat it just due to nostalgia on my part. FC & SC are definitely in the conversation though, which is pretty amazing.
I've always said Suikoden II is my favorite JRPG of all time, but FC has pushed its way up into that list, but I'm not sure it can ever beat it just due to nostalgia on my part. FC & SC are definitely in the conversation though, which is pretty amazing.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Trails in the Sky? Best 2D RPG?
But... Trails in the Sky is 3D, unless you are just counting the character sprites/models.
But... Trails in the Sky is 3D, unless you are just counting the character sprites/models.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Nor will it ever!
Cold Steel 1 is...soonish, with Cold Steel 2...not so soonish afterwards!
Beaten Suikoden 2?
No, but I could go back to that again. It lost my interest at some point but I'm not sure why.
Likely Cold Steel is what I need now, though I am a bit wary of modern Falcom given that I haven't liked how the most recent Ys games are compared to the OiF-Origins era. But I'd like to be proven wrong, and SC sets up the basic premise of Erebonia quite nicely.
Suikoden 2 is godlike. It has a lot of the things that make Trails so great. NPCs that change dialog in reaction to events (but not at the same degree as Trails), cities that evolve over the course of the story, and actual character progression for lots of the cast.
The game is really really good.
Augemitbutter
Member
yes, i'll play next week. Xenoblade was alright, but i prefer tits.
try Growlanser Wayfarer of Time.
Say, XSEED got the license for 3rd, right? I wonder if they recorded the lines for that game too upon recording FC, much like they did with SC.
SO GOOD
Oh my god, this is so good. Especially Zero's Inevitable Struggle, which I prefer the original version of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VSDw8VwaNE (wait, this is actually the super arrange version, don't lie to me video title! (the original's still great, though))
SO GOOD
Thought Tom had said they had, yeah, back when TiTs PC was announced. For consistency's sake.
Pellegri Testament
Member
Thought it was when they originally came out with FC on PSP since they probably thought at the time that they would be continuing with it.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah. They did all of it at once when they were recording for the PSP version.
Also why Kloe's speech doesn't match her arts anymore, since they reverted the names back to the original German ones.
What I meant was that they had recorded the lines for all three way back, and said they still had those recordings to use during the PC reveal.
KiLLz4TwinKies
Banned
Have a break in games (just got done with Fallout & Batman) coming up and looking for new vita game to play...
Suikoden II
or
Trails Series (i need to start with the psp version?)
or RPG classic on Vita
Never played either of them. Fan of RPG's with favorites being; Final Fantasy series (particularly VI & X), Persona 4, Grandia II, Star Ocean series
Appreciate the feedback
Suikoden II
or
Trails Series (i need to start with the psp version?)
or RPG classic on Vita
Never played either of them. Fan of RPG's with favorites being; Final Fantasy series (particularly VI & X), Persona 4, Grandia II, Star Ocean series
Appreciate the feedback
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Both Trails games are on PSN and PC. FC is slightly better on PC due to text fixes (disregarding the portable vs resolution/performance tradeoff). SC seems much better on PC since the PSP version seems to have several bugs that will presumably never be patched, quite a few text issues, and the PC version doesn't have "disc" swapping.
Augemitbutter
Member
Suikoden II is the best game ever. Trails FC and SC are great too. if you want to participate here, start with them. yes, they're on PSP.
i never saw a bug in the PSP version. it was a smooth experience and i'm almost finished with the game.
KiLLz4TwinKies
Banned
Thanks! Gonna start with Suikoden II then Trails
Do i need to play the first one before hopping into the second?
Do i need to play the first one before hopping into the second?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The ones I've seen mentioned are very minor, at least. Unreadable text in some quest completion notifications, the 10s digits not appearing in the game timer, a treasure chest that discolored the screen when you open it. Text problems seem work, looks like any line in the game starting with "Oh" gets cut off.
Yes, the second game picks up immediately where the first one leaves off and expects you to be familiar with what happened throughout the first.
Augemitbutter
Member
yes, i had 2 unreadable sidequest completion messages. i think both were in ruan early game.