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The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC |OT| More Olivier Than Ever
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KuwabaraTheMan
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That's around the pace I was on, because I went around talking to everyone at every opportunity.
Yea that's exactly what I do. Every time the NPC dialogue changes I'll run around the whole region talking to everyone to see how there getting on and if there are any hidden quests about.
Thanks!
skLaFarebear
Member
Chapter 7
*Starts the battle vs Renne*
*Uses S-break. Estelle, Joshua and Kevin die in one hit*
Well this is a difficulty spike
Edit: Fuck, I really really really don't want to go back to the ship to grab anti-petrification/deathblow accesories. This kind of shit is the worst.
*Uses S-break. Estelle, Joshua and Kevin die in one hit*
Well this is a difficulty spike
Edit: Fuck, I really really really don't want to go back to the ship to grab anti-petrification/deathblow accesories. This kind of shit is the worst.
LMAO that happened to me except
Agate Kloe Joshua died. And I just let Estelle die and retry. Second time I was like please just not Kloe and she was the only one to die but it was okay.
skLaFarebear
Member
Lucky.
I keep reloading and the two characters that don't have deathblow accessories are dying without fail and the rest are wiping from petrification/damage. I think this might fight might be impossible without the accessories. Might just try spamming my own s-breaks on the other enemies before Renne can get hers out.
Edit:
Yay, finally got one where everyone survived! Based Joshua and his critical buffed 200 CP true sever taking out the entire room.
Edit 2:
OH GOD ANOTHER FIGHT
skLaFarebear
Member
Yeah, I beat it easily. First one was much tougher (at least the first phase anyway)
Katsumi Enami for Zero/Ao. His style can be seen in Ys Seven and Baccano as well.
I actually really like their character design iterations.
Sen no Kiseki's stuff is in-house artists, IIRC.
Nightengale
Member
Fair. I meant that Enami did the character designs - since Zero/Ao are a duology with the same characters - for both games by extension. That's all.
I'm also aware that Enami gets really irritated at how many people attribute art to him that wasn't his work on Kiseki.
AledyHauser
Member
Need help on Chapter 3
I got stuck on the stairs on my way down from Grancel Balcony and I cant even move any further. I can't tell if this is a bug but im literally stuck
I really dont want to start over everything
Can anyone help
I got stuck on the stairs on my way down from Grancel Balcony and I cant even move any further. I can't tell if this is a bug but im literally stuck
I really dont want to start over everything
Can anyone help
max_505
Member
The game regularly autosaves when you enter/exit rooms, so just load the most recent autosave before you got stuck (on the load screen, it's the one before the 1st page of the regular savefiles).
Thank Aidios to that person who implemented the rolling autosave feature.
EDIT: Or wait... are you saying that you get stuck EVEN IF you reload?
AledyHauser
Member
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Dragon1893
Member
Started chapter 8. Chapter 7 ending was epic.
BassForever
Member
Many of those enemy supers are not screen-wide; they're lines, PBAoEs, etc.
Also if your fast enough you can activate Kevin's s craft before they do, dunno if it works on Renne but I know it works on a later/harder fight
Augemitbutter
Member
can you speed up battle animation in the evolution ports?
HA! Really? That's amusing. Guess I should mash harder in my replay.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Falcom just needs to straight up tell us who their current illustrator/character artist is so we can suggest to them via questionnaire to get someone more interesting on the job. This person does a soulless imitation of Enami's art, with less interesting shading, faces that look the same way too often (more than Enami who already suffers), lavish amounts of work spent on backgrounds rather than posing/giving personality to characters, &c. And it's really annoying when people look at this stuff and tag it as Enami's work, though it doesn't happen often at least. Company's still too cagey about not releasing official album track credits for anything JDK's worked on, so this seems to be a recurring problem (and part of their brand, in the West at least, comes from their legendary staff).
That said, I don't think we should go back to You Shiina either. Falcom's been good about getting new artists for years, I just don't want them to fall into a losing streak.
Augemitbutter
Member
they should just hire kazuma kaneko to do all LoH art from now on 
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I doubt Falcom is going to tell you who the character designer is so that you can pester them to fire that person.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
They just put out an online survey/contest to gauge fan reactions to their most recent games. I never said fire the guy they have now, just find someone different (and more unique) and prepare their best possible offer once the current artist leaves. Falcom art staff has fairly common turnover, much in line with how JDK members switch out. Falcom was crediting the character illustrator for their products up until around Ys vs. Sora no Kiseki/Nayuta no Kiseki; I've read that Falcom's since transitioned to having all its graphic artists work on the illustrations, but there's so many of them I have to think someone's co-ordinating and has codified how the new illustration and design style must look.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I mean... if you want to tell Falcom that the character art in their recent games sucks, that's fine, but you don't need to know who the artist is to do that.
Yeah, in the Untold History of Game Developers, you can read about Yuzo Koshiro being confused as to why Falcom never credits him for any of his contributions to Falcom Sound Team JDK.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
True, but it would help, and I don't think it would hurt to know who's behind the brand. Falcom maybe is just really tired of their best talents getting snapped up by more powerful companies, but from what I've seen that doesn't happen as often as employees leaving to work on passion projects and/or freelancing. Minako Iwasaki, one of Falcom's character illustrators and designers from 1993 to the end of the millennium, left to do art alongside ex-Falcom developers at Gruppo1 (they made an overlooked series of Japanese Windows Rogue-likes called Wind Seekers). Both Makoto Shinkai and Atsushi Shirakawa/TENMON had plenty to do at Falcom but resigned apparently to do personal projects (I'm giving Falcom's management benefit of doubt here).
There's evidence that JDK made internal track credit lists for their projects but the company rarely disclosed them; it's only because of Josep/jdkluv/Matron that we have more of an idea (in our fan community) who did which tracks on certain games, particularly Ys IV.
Augemitbutter
Member
nobody knows, eh?
According to this review, holding down the X button speeds up battle animations in FC Evo. I can only assume it's the same in the other Evolution titles.
Shouta
Member
There's really nothing wrong with the current designer doing Falcom's work. Their art could use a bit personal style and maybe work on differentiating faces are really my only complaints. The designs themselves are fine though. Even the Cold Steel school uniforms have quite a bit of personality to them when you actually look at the stuff they're wearing.
Augemitbutter
Member
nooooooooooo! now i really want to play these versions
whywhywhy. it will never happen, but i would gladly replay everything in remake form.thanks for the link.
I don't have a problem with pandering, myself, but Fie's outfit in Sen 2 really made me do a double take. It looks kinda out of nowhere and like it doesn't fit with any of the designs of the rest of the cast. Someone feel free to correct me on if there's a good reason for it besides being figure-making bait.
I really like the art style and character designs of whoever did TitS FC/SC and Ys Origins/Oath.
Cold Steel looks very... generic? To me.
Whoever did Adol's Ys 7 rendition is also great.
Nightengale
Member
Hmm...
It's not a spoiler, but I'll leave it behind spoiler bars anyway.
Yes, there is a reason why her outfit clashes with the rest of the cast.
With that being said,
it doesn't somehow mean the motive was 100% pure to storytelling reasons, even if there's a story reason why her design clashes.
In a way, you could say that Fie's design [subtle hints that can lead to being able to guess the story bit if you played a bit of CS]
echoes not too different from why Schera dresses the way she does.
That would be Katsumi Enami.
The portrait art ingame for FC/SC is an unnamed in-house artist.
Fair. Falcom usually has good justifications for these kinds of things.
Nightengale
Member
I do prefer Enami Katsumi, but I've come around to whoever did the art for Cold Steel.
Besides, that artist imo, does the best-looking rendition of [Trails of CS spoiler]
, so yeah.
Besides, that artist imo, does the best-looking rendition of [Trails of CS spoiler]
Olivert Reise Arnor
Yeah, I actually don't really hate the Cold Steel artist.
I dislike the Celceta artist far more.
Augemitbutter
Member
haccan is the best. saw him make mushihimesama futari first, love at first sight for those crazy colors.
Catching up after barely getting any play time in the last few days, still in Chapter 8:
I went in the order of Bose -> Ruan -> Zeiss -> Grancel and I've just finally entered the Rolent area where I left off last night. As I completed quests, saved a school, restored the hot springs, killed Dimension Bugs and generally made my way through Liberl on foot (again) I picked up Gambler Jacks 12, 13 and 14 but no 11. I assume I'll find that in Rolent, and if so then it would appear I should have visited Rolent first. Hopefully that doesn't mean I missed out on some time-sensitive quest or story bit.
I thought that art style looked familiar.