Not really, but it's still their new benchmark this gen.
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LordOcidax
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In Gaf? Absolutely
Can Crusher
Banned
Just Cause?
Ya.
Twilight Princess
Member
Should I be hyped? I was burned twice before I'm scared. Can I trust nintendo again?
LordOcidax
Member
+Top tier quality, dungeons, puzzles, and a good fighting mechanics also story....
othersteve
Member
This. Game.
That is all.
That is all.
D
Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
According to German Wikipedia, it's highest score was GTAV with 97, Zelda TP, GoWII, RDR and Arkham getting 95.
I can't confirm this, just a quick Wiki check, so yeah.
This is torture.
It's really important for Gaf, since it's not a 60fps game, they need a good justification to even touch this game.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I'm trying to enjoy Yakuza 0 and finish it up before BotW but it's actually hard... all I want to do is play this game lol
The perfect Dark
Banned
Isn't Just Cause just a GTA clone with a grappling hook and Ubisoft quest design? I've played the second game but can't remember it. I've played the third game and it's one of the worst games of the gen, imo.
Murgatroyd
Banned
91 = weekend rental. 94 = eternal hype.
j/k
j/k
omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg
Can Crusher
Banned
I don't get it. Are you going to flip it also and see all the things it doesn't do?
What The Forest Taught Me
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Nitpicker_Red
Member
About what feels "unique" to this Zelda:
I guess one point is the interconnectedness of all the mechanics? It's hard to explain without listing them. But it feels like Link is connected "by the ground" to all its environment.
Let's take Fire: spreads trough grass, which makes hot air column that can be ridden to go up with the glider, or spread to wooden weapons to make them do more damage, or burn enemies, or burn wooden walls, barrels, small trees, small items, and can be produced by explosions, fire arrows, fire staff... Can create a fire by putting flintstone and wood on the floor and hitting it. Fire also serves when you are cold to warm up. Fire places also serves as places to cook, and places you can sit down to pass time (jump to a time in the day).
So this one mechanic is linked to combat, to puzzles, to mobility, and as a safe place.
Multiple uses, interactions with other systems. (What I like in Mario Maker.) And it's like that for most mechanics.
A thing as simple as topology is to take in account for bombs that roll, bombs that don't roll, high ground advantage against enemies, the direction you go when you are shield surfing and if the shield takes damage or not, the steepness that relates to how much stamina you use for climbing, wet walls (during rain) are more difficult to climb (you slip), the amount of damage you get after a hit if you roll down a hill in ragdoll mode (meaning some places are more dangerous to fight on)...
So sure, each mechanic is not new in itself, but they chose the ones that mesh well together.
The fact that you cam climb anything and not just some scripted wallpieces might be new-ish. For me it is the first indication of this interconnectedness. I know it sounds unrelated -"climbing anything means freedom, not that everything is connected!"- but having the option present all the time forces the same rules to be applied at all time, and that is what I mean, cohesion and multi-usage in the world's mechanical rules. Note, you can't climb walls inside Shrines, and most of the times they contain puzzles with a set solution or a mechanic to experiment with, so it's interesting to see that contrast of rules with the rest of the world.
I guess one point is the interconnectedness of all the mechanics? It's hard to explain without listing them. But it feels like Link is connected "by the ground" to all its environment.
Let's take Fire: spreads trough grass, which makes hot air column that can be ridden to go up with the glider, or spread to wooden weapons to make them do more damage, or burn enemies, or burn wooden walls, barrels, small trees, small items, and can be produced by explosions, fire arrows, fire staff... Can create a fire by putting flintstone and wood on the floor and hitting it. Fire also serves when you are cold to warm up. Fire places also serves as places to cook, and places you can sit down to pass time (jump to a time in the day).
So this one mechanic is linked to combat, to puzzles, to mobility, and as a safe place.
Multiple uses, interactions with other systems. (What I like in Mario Maker.) And it's like that for most mechanics.
A thing as simple as topology is to take in account for bombs that roll, bombs that don't roll, high ground advantage against enemies, the direction you go when you are shield surfing and if the shield takes damage or not, the steepness that relates to how much stamina you use for climbing, wet walls (during rain) are more difficult to climb (you slip), the amount of damage you get after a hit if you roll down a hill in ragdoll mode (meaning some places are more dangerous to fight on)...
So sure, each mechanic is not new in itself, but they chose the ones that mesh well together.
The fact that you cam climb anything and not just some scripted wallpieces might be new-ish. For me it is the first indication of this interconnectedness. I know it sounds unrelated -"climbing anything means freedom, not that everything is connected!"- but having the option present all the time forces the same rules to be applied at all time, and that is what I mean, cohesion and multi-usage in the world's mechanical rules. Note, you can't climb walls inside Shrines, and most of the times they contain puzzles with a set solution or a mechanic to experiment with, so it's interesting to see that contrast of rules with the rest of the world.
Pyroblazer
Member
True they gave GTA 5 a 97, missed that review. Probably that high because GTA 4 was already very high on 94 or something and overrated by everyone. They gave some more games a 94 at least from what I know, TP is one of them. But don't know the exact numbers.
But like I said before they have changed their systen a lot this gen, before they gave out 90+ for fun which they realized because they got a lot of shit for it, it's very difficult to get a high score now, so comparisons with last gen titles are a bit difficult. This gen nothing comes close to Zelda's score.
92 was the best score this gen from Witcher 3, Uncharted 4 and also MGS5, which are alongside Bloodborne also the best games on Metacritic this generation.
J
Jpop
Unconfirmed Member
Since you are so enlightened about the game. Tell us what it doesn't do?
It's just so the text is legible.
I listened to some of Dan Ryckert's impression on the Giant Beastcast, and it sounds like this is more kind of focused around the combat than it is about the puzzles? Just saying, he seemed like entered his first dungeon
. Are other people saying stuff like this?
Seems very different for Zelda, but in a super exciting way
after twenty hours
Seems very different for Zelda, but in a super exciting way
I don't get it.
BOTW is perhaps great, in my opinion, precisely because it's undoing the extensive damage that OOT caused to the Zelda series. It's ironic to say it's the best thing since then.
People will discuss hours the metascores even if it doesn't has any sort of importance.
I'm baffled by the fact that debates about movies are (historically) based on long texts with a mix strong opinions, enthusiastic analysis and lyrical sentences (critique/review) ; but when it comes to video games even the most hardcore players are only talking about scores, benchmarks, comparisons, rankings and when it's not about that in review threads it's about the most insignificant technical aspects. There's no depth here. There a few good critiques (Killscreen.com in English, I know 2 to 3 websites in French) but they never are discussed with the same engagement as it is about knowing whether Zelda deserves 93 or 95, or what is the best hyperbole you can find in a review.
it seems like traversing the world is a puzzle in and of itself
Diprosalic
Banned
does he like it?
The perfect Dark
Banned
Some reviewer from Destructoid said that there are lots of (challenging) puzzles.
Can't find the quote though.
DecoReturns
Member
D
Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
He loves it, he also is gonna write the review of which he already said that it's gonna be quite something.
He only took so long to get there because he was having fun being lost in the world and getting sidetracked.
Diprosalic
Banned
cool. thank you.
Thats a really... "unique" position to have though.
CrazyHorse
Junior Member
Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/will-the-lege...wilds-release-affect-horizon-zero-dawns-sales
The problem here is that people forget how good Zelda games are and give other game 9s when they don't compare.
Evil's Bane
Member
I mean, this game looks pretty different.
I like TP and SS but admittedly if we were getting another game in that mold I wouldn't be nearly as excited
Can Crusher
Banned
Well you can't jump from an airplane on to the top of another and hook them together etc
Or are you implying this game does everything other games do?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The purpose of the towers.....
Nothing can escape that Ubisoft influence. >_>
Robin64
Member
"extensive damage"? If you say so.
The Legend of Zelda was the original open world game. It didn't have a linear structure, it didn't guide you by the nose, it didn't rob you of every discovery. Largely it was the 3D era games that introduced this. BOTW is a return to original form.
It's fun this time!
Aaronrules380
Member
we knew this for a long time though?
AquaWateria
Member
Good thing it doesn't have shitty Ubisoft markers.
Cucurbitacée
Member
The big difference is that it only reveals the landscape of the area, it's up to you to put POI on the map (if you want).
We're not going to do this, this is a happy zone. But make no mistake, you're opinion is wrong.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Think of it this way. It's the difference between being lower than Skyward Sword. Or being higher than Skyward Sword.
We've known this for a long time. The towers only show you the topography of the area so you can identify high or low points in the region, they also serve as a convenient way of scouting the region and choosing where to paraglide to.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
So like the most recent Ubisoft games then?Cucurbitacée;231007776 said:
? No. A lot of times in the past, Zelda games haven't held up for me compared to a lot of games. Polish and charm? Sure. Beyond WW, I haven't been wowed by a 3d Zelda since Oot.
This one I'd believe as it seems to be setting a higher mark taking good, modern things from a lot of games and combining them.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The amount of things they thought about tho...
CrazyHorse
Junior Member
That's also a matter of opinion. I think TP ands MM are better than those other modern games which don't hold my attention - maybe it's my older age? WW is weak for me.
