Jack Videogames
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This might sound weird, but games can have more to offer than graphics.
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The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening review thread
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This might sound weird, but games can have more to offer than graphics.
Ulysses 31
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Ok but do you have some rule that you have to start playing new games the day they release?
I never understand these "I have to finish this single player game that I'm enjoying before this new single player game that I might enjoy comes out" mind set.
And you can already play DX11, the demo is pretty long(easily 5-10 hours) and progress carries over to the full game.
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Shaqazooloo
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I like playing games at launch, if I wait too long I might not buy it at all, I want it while it's still fresh in my mind.Ok but do you have some rule that you have to start playing new games the day they release?
I never understand these "I have to finish this single player games before this new single player game comes out" mind set.
Thanks for the tip, didn't know that the demo was the opening part of the game.And you can already play DX11, the demo is pretty long(easily 5-10 hours) and progress carries over to the full game.
Vawn
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I am.
Outrunner
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Framerate is performance and it does affect the gameplay experience, so it should be accounted for when reviewing a game.
Ulysses 31
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StormCell
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Titles are usually judged based on the merits and context that they're released in. Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass were DS titles, and when you consider the hardware those titles were considered very impressive. If they had released on Wii, I doubt they would have scored that high.
Twilight Princess, otoh, is really good. I didn't remember it very fondly until I replayed it on the Wii U, though. It was a good game after Wind Waker, which is also really good.
Of course, I really enjoyed Skyward Sword on my one playthrough. Attempts to play through it again have all failed....
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Jack Videogames
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Not all games need silky smooth 60fps to play well. Some are perfectly good experiences with less. I wouldn't have enjoyed Dragon Quest Builders 2 more with 60fps; I would have enjoyed Astral Chain more with them.
And maybe the scores already account for this. A game can be better than average, even great, with technical failings.
Outrunner
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No one is saying that the game needs to be 60 fps. Framerate drops are distracting and make the gameplay experience worse. Link's Awakening has several moments with unstable framerate. No one is saying that it makes it a bad game.
Jack Videogames
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And since it is, even despite the fps drops it should deserve a great score. I don't think an 88 should be surprising even if the fps is unstable.
Shifty
Member
Those are some high scores, damn. I was expecting it to be high, but not quite that high.
My copy arrived today, but the release snuck up on me- I thought it was next week, so the game is gonna be sitting in the switch for a few more days while I polish off Control.
Really looking forward to digging into it though. Link's Awakening DX was my first 2D Zelda, and spent a heck of a lot of time in my Game Boy Color, so this is going to be a nostalgia bomb. I hope my memory of the trading quest holds up.
My copy arrived today, but the release snuck up on me- I thought it was next week, so the game is gonna be sitting in the switch for a few more days while I polish off Control.
Really looking forward to digging into it though. Link's Awakening DX was my first 2D Zelda, and spent a heck of a lot of time in my Game Boy Color, so this is going to be a nostalgia bomb. I hope my memory of the trading quest holds up.
Outrunner
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Well I don't know, I think it's a good game but looking at the context I do think it is winning extra points for nostalgia.
StormCell
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BotW says hello.
Tygeezy
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Games that are native 1080 p look good on my 4k. Although the upscaler is very good on samsungs. It depends how far away you sit and how big your tv is. Mine is 75 inch and I sit 10 feet away. So 1080 p still looks good. Not many switch games run at 1080 p though so they can look very soft. My tv has a sharpening option that I use for non native games that really helps though too. 900p is doable with some sharpening being applied.
AdmiralMikey
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And it was bad then too. Just because Nintendo made past mistakes when it comes to the framerate of their game doesn't make it OK for them to do it now, especially on a title that looks so much simpler.
epicnemesis
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So is this coming out midnight EST or PST?
Bonfires Down
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Across Link's Awakening, Astral Chain and Luigi's Mansion the Switch is starting to look pretty tempting. Not tempting enough for me to drop 400€ though.
BlackTron
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I'm very lukewarm on the art style, and would hope that in 2019 that they could remake a gen 1 Game Boy title with a decent framerate. TBH that's kind of pathetic. OoT and LA are my favorite Zelda's and I don't like Grezzo's influence on either one. Too bad Nintendo didn't handle this in-house.
I love Link's Awakening but I think I'm ok with the GBC version that's been planted firmly in my GBA SP's cart slot for about 15 years. I'll pick this up for $30-40 down the line when the opportunity arises.
I love Link's Awakening but I think I'm ok with the GBC version that's been planted firmly in my GBA SP's cart slot for about 15 years. I'll pick this up for $30-40 down the line when the opportunity arises.
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Weilthain
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yea a little but it's mainly about being anal about it. Its snobbery tbh. yea i said it.
Outrunner
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Honey, you can be anal about whatever you like, I honestly don't care.
Weilthain
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if you don't like this game as much as I do, we can't be friends I'm just going to say that upfront.
MMaRsu
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BoTw is running on underpowered hardware. Its pretty amazing it even runs on wiiu.
I wouldnt compare such a game with this kind of game, besides them both being named zelda.
StormCell
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It's arguably the GOAT. They still haven't ironed out all the performance issues, but I sure am glad they didn't delay it another year to try to fix all of it.
StormCell
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Just because a game doesn't have nearly as much content doesn't mean it can't be taxing the system and managing to pull off some technical feats that the hardware probably shouldn't be able to do, or something like that.
Maybe it's like you said and they're just not doing something right in UE4, OR maybe they're attempting to do too much for such a simple game. Visually, there's quite a lot going on with the lighting and depth of field blur. They could have probably made a sightly uglier game that runs at a smooth 60 fps.
Ulysses 31
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How powerful can hardware the size of switch be?
Pimpbaa
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Yeah, this is pretty much why I'm passing on this too. Also being Canadian, this is way too much for such a short adventure game.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Some of the excuses by fans of the framerate issue is remarkable to say the least lol Now it's "oh tht doesn't matter nor should anyone care" Nintendo you definitely got them 
StormCell
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Some of the excuses by fans of the framerate issue is remarkable to say the least lol Now it's "oh tht doesn't matter nor should anyone care" Nintendo you definitely got them
Frankly, I suspect a lot of their games are being made to run on upgraded hardware. All of their games except a few are going to run at better resolution and framerate as soon they release something with more memory and faster CPU.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Things like this don't ruin my gaming experience but I'm cognizant of the fact tht for others it does and games definitely should be docked points for those types of issues. Eitber way I'm planning on picking this up as I've actually never played the original.
KingdomHeartsFan
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I had this pre-ordered but I canceled it, can't justify paying full price for a remake of a GB game that runs poorly. I'll pick it up later at a discounted price, I'm in no rush.
flibbertyjibbert
Banned
I feel like having the shield as auto-equipped takes out a lot of challenge. any single enemy can be beaten by holding R and pressing A
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Where do you usually get Nintendo first party games at a discount?
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
I'll wait for the framerate patch.
Or I'll just wait. My childhood memories of Link's Awakening on that green-and-black Game Boy screen can remain unsullied.
Or I'll just wait. My childhood memories of Link's Awakening on that green-and-black Game Boy screen can remain unsullied.
KingdomHeartsFan
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Well there's a few scenarios I see happening. Either it gets a Nintendo selects release, it gets an actual sale (which happened for SSB, Xenoblade, and Mario Kart 8) or if none of those happen I'll get in 3 or more years down the line on ebay. Wind Waker HD has been around $30 CAD on ebay for a while now which is probably the closest comparison to this.
Kazza
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Ah, I'm getting my Zeldas mixed up, I meant to say Skyward Sword, that's the one that even a lot of Zelda fans feel a little iffy about. It still got 93......
SMH at the 10s from IGN, Eurogamer, Edge...
#Phonepunk#
Banned
i think midnight EST. that's what it was for Mario Maker.
i mean i really honestly do not care. i play games that drop frames all the time. my friend has a PS4 and we play PUBG and Fallout 76 and both drop frames left and right. plus Nintendo is generally good about patching performance support. if someone cares, that is fine. that is their right. but just as well, it's my right to not care at all.
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Teletraan1
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Cant even get a gameboy game running at 60fps. Shame.
Shifty1897
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I know right like remember when Shadow of the Colossus came out on the PS2 and it ran at 20fps and people treated it like the second coming of Christ?
That was clearly Nintendo fanboys at work.
mcjmetroid
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As a ZELDA fan this is true which is why I was saying I just don't trust Zelda reviewsAh, I'm getting my Zeldas mixed up, I meant to say Skyward Sword, that's the one that even a lot of Zelda fans feel a little iffy about. It still got 93......
SMH at the 10s from IGN, Eurogamer, Edge...
It's not just Zelda, Rockstar games as well.
If Red Dead 2 is a perfect 10 then I don't know where to start.
Kazza
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Is there a Zelda youtuber you trust? For Sonic games I generally trust a guy called SomeCallMeJohnny, as he is a fan, but a grounded one, so won't go all fanboyish or start shitting on it for no reason. Sometimes it's better if you get to know an individual youtuber, although that usually means waiting until a few days after release to get a review.
TheSadRanger
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Ah, I'm getting my Zeldas mixed up, I meant to say Skyward Sword, that's the one that even a lot of Zelda fans feel a little iffy about. It still got 93......
SMH at the 10s from IGN, Eurogamer, Edge...
Eh, Skyward Sword is often viewed as the Yin to Breath of the Wilds Yang.
Skyward Sword: Plentiful dungeons that are uniquely awesome and exceptional boss fight design encounters, shitty overworld exploration
BoTW: Awesome overworld exploration, very few dungeons that are shitty and all have a similar look. Straightforward, uninspired boss fights that all look similar as well and just aren't up to the series standard.
What SS is good at, BoTW kinda sucks at and vice versa.
cartman414
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Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds are in the 90s on Metacritic.
88 is too low.
88 is too low.
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#Phonepunk#
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so jelly of people who are playing now. i think there are 2 hours to go.
me rn
me rn