I fought him for the first time yesterday, it was a pretty easy fight. No problem with the controls or anything like anyone here mentioned.
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |OT| Home of Punkin' Chunkin' Champion 2011
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Do clear and broad swings, don't waggle, if you want to move the sword without slashing move it slowly.
Do you mean you feel like you have to swing it erratically to connect with an enemy that is blocking? If so, you should try doing a shield parry when the enemy attacks.
BertramCooper
Banned
Okay, so perhaps I'm just rusty, but the
I'm not saying the game is incredibly hard or anything, but I've never encountered this much difficulty this early in a 3D Zelda.
Eldin Volcano pre-dungeon stuff was legitimately tough, especially for so early in the game.
I'm not saying the game is incredibly hard or anything, but I've never encountered this much difficulty this early in a 3D Zelda.
Doesn't that weaken the shield?
He was kicking my ass into the next Zelda game yesterday. Took a day off, played some Skyrim, recalculated myself and beat the ever loving shit out of him.
There is a definite learning curve to this game. I think that's what my problem was\is. I've got to throw out the 25 years of Zelda that I've built up and relearn some things.
No. You don't lose shield durability if you do a perfect shield parry (doing it right as the enemy is about to connect to you), which is what causes enemies to be stunned in the first place. So if you get good at it, you'll never lose durability.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Only if you screw up the parry, I think.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
AaaaaaAaaaaaarggghhhhh.
The
second form of the Imprisoned
AaaaaArgggh!
The shield bash doesn't.
DrForester
Kills Photobucket
Made up a handy guide for the first boss and the people who were rage quitting over it.
[late boss spoiler]
I usually jump down one step, run to the steam burst closer to his head to get back up, and hurry the fuck up back to him. If you don't run out of stamina, you have enough time to do it.
Crash Station
Member
I spent way too long exploring Skyloft and the area around it, so I'm just getting to the first dungeon now. Seriously loving the game.
I beat it without my shield...
Me too, but he's a lot easier with the shield. In fact, a lot of enemies are. The best advice is to not ignore your shield at all because you're just making it harder for yourself, especially against the larger enemies.
2nd form is the one with the hand? Use Goose's bomb if available (when its trying to climb, aim at those hands), time your run between the legs too anticipate shockwave, use air burst to climb and intercept (I rarely use it unless for intercepting when he's in snake mode or going to his head to drive the stake in)
edit: agree on the shield being important. makes some enemies/bosses easier to beat.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Fi's implimentation is a little janky. I take back what I said earlier about her ruining puzzles. The
generator
I do agree that they should've fixed her implimentation for example if you've failed your 4th or 5th time at a puzzle, you keep dying quite a lot in one area or you're spending an obnoxious amount of time in one section. Then she can pop up and help me because as you said her hints aren't helpful most of the time but she will gladly force herself in a situation and solve a puzzle for you before you get the chance to try it out. However, I still do think people are blowing things way out of proportion for something that wouldn't be as criticized as heavily in other games.
For example, Super Mario Galaxy had a lot of minor flaws: stars I hated, stupid waggle minigames, collectathon aspects, forced story segments, empty and boring hub world, extremely basic and dummy proof level design for the first 60 stars, etc. I never saw that many people and complain and rage about all of these aspects nearly as much. I'd say right now I've got a similar number of minor complaints as I did in SMG. Again, I'm only halfway past the 3rd dungeon.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
People are having issues with the first boss? Huh. Best him on my first try both in the E3 demo (in which I was massively uncoordinated) and the final game.
I started doing some side missions after the first dungeon, couldn't figure out the
thing and so I went and wrapped up Mario 3D Land as a break. Back into it and I'm still loving the game.
I will echo the "Fi needs to shut the everliving hell up" sentiments though.
I started doing some side missions after the first dungeon, couldn't figure out the
"girl lost in graveyard"
I will echo the "Fi needs to shut the everliving hell up" sentiments though.
JzeroT1437
Member
I picked the game up yesterday but didn't get to sit down and play it until this afternoon--had to hunt down a wii motion + sensor as I've not needed one yet.
I've only made it to the Sealed Grounds, but overall, the controls are tight. They're what I was expecting when I picked up Twilight Princess a few years ago, so I can't complain--I think it's kind of funny that people are frustrated that the wii controller handles nearly like a 1:1 representation of the sword in the game. I'm glad to see Waggle gone.
Anyway, the only frustrating part so far has been the
at the very beginning of the game. I realize the Skyloft is supposed to act as a hub that you return to occasionally, and the game is called "SKYWARD" sword, but the flying controls are too janked and difficult to use in situations where you have to chase something down.
Overall, I'm okay with Fi. I haven't gotten that far in the game, but it doesn't seem like you HAVE to listen to her--it's optional.
I've only made it to the Sealed Grounds, but overall, the controls are tight. They're what I was expecting when I picked up Twilight Princess a few years ago, so I can't complain--I think it's kind of funny that people are frustrated that the wii controller handles nearly like a 1:1 representation of the sword in the game. I'm glad to see Waggle gone.
Anyway, the only frustrating part so far has been the
flying chase tournament
Overall, I'm okay with Fi. I haven't gotten that far in the game, but it doesn't seem like you HAVE to listen to her--it's optional.
noted zeldaphile oblivion sends a message from beyond the grave.
he is in the process of playing skyward sword as we speak. and will provide the most definitive review when he returns from his exile....
he also will like to give a shout out to all his zelda homies* anihawk, beelzebozo, viciouskillersquirrel, and any others he may have forgotten.
*his words....
he is in the process of playing skyward sword as we speak. and will provide the most definitive review when he returns from his exile....
he also will like to give a shout out to all his zelda homies* anihawk, beelzebozo, viciouskillersquirrel, and any others he may have forgotten.
*his words....
Just did the first Temple. I swear, this is not the kind of game you put down for a day or two then jump back in. I was rusty as hell after not playing since Friday.
I really enjoyed it, even though it was basic Zelda. Ghirahim is such a badass.
I'm loving how this is going so far.
I really enjoyed it, even though it was basic Zelda. Ghirahim is such a badass.
Tongue wagging was hilarious. I also really loved it when Fi was doing her water skating routine, how graceful and elegant! Hahaha.
I'm loving how this is going so far.
Just buy the metal shield.
The guy who was sick came in early and so the boss said I can go home tonight.
This means an early start to Zelda week
Relatives are using the main TV, and my brother is cleaning bamboo leaves but once he's done with that it's ALL ZELDA ALL FUCKING NIGHT. So excited.
Regarding Skyward Swords quirks, I think most of the design decisions are not a result of diminishing talent but just some bad decision making. The talent is still there full force and the game is still veryp olished. It just has some odd design choices. The motion controls are about as good as current technology allows. Motion sensing was never a perfect technology and even cellphones have troubles sometimes registering it. Kinect and Sony Move really don't do a much better job of it even with added tech. It just isn't 100% perfected yet.
What I applaud Nintendo for is making use of the technology in the entire game and as a fully featured part of a hardcore gaming experience (despite the handholding).
I really can't think of anything in the game so far that smacks of a lack of TALENT, just a lack of foresight. Despite that, this game has charmed me already BIG TIME and I havent even experienced its dungeons.
This means an early start to Zelda week
Relatives are using the main TV, and my brother is cleaning bamboo leaves but once he's done with that it's ALL ZELDA ALL FUCKING NIGHT. So excited.
Regarding Skyward Swords quirks, I think most of the design decisions are not a result of diminishing talent but just some bad decision making. The talent is still there full force and the game is still veryp olished. It just has some odd design choices. The motion controls are about as good as current technology allows. Motion sensing was never a perfect technology and even cellphones have troubles sometimes registering it. Kinect and Sony Move really don't do a much better job of it even with added tech. It just isn't 100% perfected yet.
What I applaud Nintendo for is making use of the technology in the entire game and as a fully featured part of a hardcore gaming experience (despite the handholding).
I really can't think of anything in the game so far that smacks of a lack of TALENT, just a lack of foresight. Despite that, this game has charmed me already BIG TIME and I havent even experienced its dungeons.
You don't lose durability if you parry properly.
I've found the shield to be a complete life saver against some enemies, and I actually enjoy parrying their attacks and then going in for the kill
I've found the shield to be a complete life saver against some enemies, and I actually enjoy parrying their attacks and then going in for the kill
And once you get the shield that
repairs itself over time
Lord_Byron28
Member
You could just get the iron shield which doesn't burn up but is susceptible to electricity.
I mostly agree with your impressions. I think you'll probably understand more where people are coming from a little bit later with Fi. I still think they are blowing things out of proportion with it but there are some aspects that do get a bit more annoying later in the game. I personally have maybe a 15% fail rate with the controls. However, it only really happens with the Bobolkins(IDK how to spell it) where occasionally I'll have my sword to the left hand side and then switch to the right hand side and do a slash from right to left and the game will interpret it as me doing a slash from left to right instead. I've also had a few odd things with the menu where I've clearly, there could be no mistake, that I'm selecting the right option for when the dialogue branches or it asks me if I want to continue or quit and I hit A and last second it freaks out and selects the opposite choice. I've moved, pointed and angle my controller all the way to the right and then last second it will occasionally jump to the left option instead.
I also think you'd be surprised with the RPG-lite elements that are implemented in this game. I'd say it's the most RPG-ish Zelda since ALttP.
No, you just can't. Some islands you can sleep until night and explore then, but you're never able to fly at night, no.
Cheesemeister
Member
Lord_Byron28
Member
You can miss items in the sense that if you don't do a sidequest you might not get a bottle or if you choose not to upgrade your equipment. However, from impressions and what I've experienced there aren't major missable items.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
Such a shame. Looking out at the dark sky and imagining flying through it... man.
Lol i barely use my shield and i just beated the 2nd dungeon. For Ghirahim, i just stayed close to him, slashed his little red orbs before he could launch them and attacked him everytime he was about to charge me, which cancel it. Was much easier that way than trying to keep my distance.
As far as I know, nothing is missable.
About the sidequests, some of them
involve choices, which can affect what happens but your reward stays the same.
What you don't do can still be done later, though.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
During normal gameplay mode, I can at least prepare stuff like stamina potion, upgraded Sacred Bow, and bombs to help me gain the odds a bit when dealing damage to its humongous toes. But
boss rush mode
Is the
ultimate shield
Slurpy2k20
Member
Wow, never thought of this. That would look sublime. Definitely a missed opportunity.
Don't fuck up in 2016, Nintendo!
Slurpy2k20
Member
What the hell is 'the most definitive review'? So he'll provide us his most definitive opinion? Incredible.
[Late game spoilers]
Beating
boss rush
played partially through it, specifically the first four fights to get a piece of heart, and the Imprisoned 2 fight gave me no problems. I used Groose's bombs to paralyze him, take out one foot at a time (so that you don't get that annoying red energy from the toeless foot whenever he takes a step), and tried not to waste the other Groose bombs (ie. I had one ready when the Imprisoned turned into that annoying snake form). I think I lost two or three hearts out of twenty there.
Yeah, I was really hoping later in the game you'd be allowed to do it, especially considering there's one particular island with no bed that supposedly has something to do at night. Turns out there's just another way to get to it. Such a missed opportunity indeed, I was glad you were able to skip forward in time after hanging around on Hyrule Field for ages waiting for night in TP for Poe hunting (or hanging around waiting until day so I could donate to brudda), but I wasn't really happy with what they did with the day/night cycle here.
General late game spoilers (not for you, just anyone else who considers highlighting this)
Not sure because I got it, but there's a decent chance it might be fairly useful against the final boss. I was shield bashing constantly there and it could possibly really wear the shield down. I got really lucky and the game didn't pick that second Imprisoned boss before I got the shield though, it would've been the last one but who needs 2000 rupees? Can you not just do that boss first? So long as you can do it on one health bar hopefully you'll get a boss with hearts like Scaldera soon after to recover.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
...Huh...?
Toe-less
every step the fucker took resulted in shockwaves
Sooooo, GameSpot pulled a G4 (or Morgan Webb, rather) and called Skyward Sword too cutesy.
Also apparently Tom McShea said his Skyward Sword score wouldn't change even if the control were better. (He thinks controls are only means to an end and don't affect his score, which I completely disagree with, but that's another matter.)
EDIT: Correction, he didn't say Skyward Sword was too cutesy, but rather the whole series. (And it's not Tom who made that comment.)
Also apparently Tom McShea said his Skyward Sword score wouldn't change even if the control were better. (He thinks controls are only means to an end and don't affect his score, which I completely disagree with, but that's another matter.)
EDIT: Correction, he didn't say Skyward Sword was too cutesy, but rather the whole series. (And it's not Tom who made that comment.)
No, the
toeless steps
shockwaves
EDIT: Also, added spoiler tags just in case.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
No, thehave notoeless stepsshockwaves
EDIT: Also, added spoiler tags just in case.
*Smacks head*
Really now???? Geez can't believe I missed that O__o
PhoenixSFT
Member
Finally got to the first dungeon (taking it slow, exploring, etc.), and though many people say everything improves after the first dungeon, I'm really enjoying it. I love how they immediately throw classic Zelda conventions out the window with the first switch of the dungeon (the
). I almost seriously considered consulting Fi. Plus, even regular enemy fights are tough in this game.
eyeball that you have to circle your sword around to confuse it