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[Mrbob]

Wewt I see it is a 5-3 game now!

Lets go Cubs!

 

[Matrix]

All right it is gametime! Too bad I can't watch it! Zambrano against whoever the heck the White Sox called up to get beat down!!!

Here is your daily Houston Astros Trivia challenge:

How many runs will the Astros score tonight?


A)1
B)0
C)2
D) Score a run? They'll be lucky to register one hit!

Get your answer in now! Winners will be revealed later tonight!

Thanx for typing this up

3 runs for the stros so far.

 

[Miguel]

BERKMAN!!!!!!!!

7-7

 

[Matrix]

I heart Berkman!!!!!!

 

[Eminem]

BAM. Sox win with their minor league starter =P


I get to go to the rubber match tomorrow. hot.

 

[Matrix]

Is Mr.Bob a jinx? maybe he should predict things more often for us

 

[Mrbob]

LOL.

Enjoy your consolation in scoring more than two runs!

Seven runs is a nice total for a game. But it isn't as nice when you give up eight!

 

[Matrix]

Damn cold hearted baby bear fan

 

[Matrix]

Nice work Dotel,he blew the save but still got the win giving up 4 runs..roofles

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Well Dotel had a huge 8th inning where he worked out of the Mecir-created 1 out bases loaded jam, then blew up in the 9th but nailed the Giants in the 10th.

All in all, I say I liked what I saw in the 8th and 10th, but the ninth was just bizzare. Oh well, we got the W.

 

[Matrix]

Thats been the problem with Dotel all year,one minute he looks amazing and the next he's lit up in a matter of seconds.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Well I'm much less worried about Dotel now as I am about Hudson and Harden both being injured, though they both seem to be minor injuries

 

[Eminem]

time for a sweep

aw.

 

[Joe]

dammmmmn....jose...you so nasty.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

and braves people have started scouting the yanks prospects for a possible trade for russ ortiz.

that should take all of two seconds. Yankees don't have any fuckin' prospects.

 

[Joe]

through 4 innings contreras has 8 strikeouts, striking out the side twice, 1 hit and 1 walk.

 

[Joe]

what the hell? contreras' index finger curled up and he couldnt straighten it out, he had to leave the game.

 

[NLB2]

damn. 123 first. Loaiza looks good today.

 

[Joe]

contreras: 6ip, 2h, 0r, 10k.

jose finally pitching like he's supposed too. thank you jose's family.

 

[NLB2]

Awesome. Maddox's crappy first is only two runs and Sosa quickly got one of those runs back. I love that ugy.

 

[NLB2]

Fuck, Hollandsworth hits a ball off of his leg. I hope he's ok.

 

[Desperado]

w00t, our defense is really coming thru in this 1-0 game...Beltran with the AWESOME catch to steal a HR and now the throw by Chavez. Roy's really on today.

 

[Matrix]

WOOT STROS WIN!

ROY-O WAS THE MAN FINALLY AND BELTRAN GEEZ THAT WAS A SPORTSCENTER PLAY

And Lidge > Dotel as closer....did I not call that shit

 

[Desperado]

Bigg with the great catch to end a great game...1-0 at Arlington? Crazy.

 

[Miguel]

GO LIDGE

 

[Lathentar]

GO Cubs!

 

[Matrix]

Cubs looked good.

Btw Chi Sox just got Freddy Garcia..its been a pretty nice day for M&M

 

[Neutron Night]

Freddy Garcia to the Sox! More pitching to go with the major's best offense. Took 2 of 3 from the Cubs. Now it's time to stop fucking around and get to the top of the division where we were 2 weeks ago.

 

[Matrix]

Make him a stro for life Mclane

 

[Eminem]

Cubs looked good.

Btw Chi Sox just got Freddy Garcia..its been a pretty nice day for M&M

OH HELL YES. I cannot tell you how stoked I was/am after hearing that.

Freddy Garcia to the Sox! More pitching to go with the major's best offense. Took 2 of 3 from the Cubs. Now it's time to stop fucking around and get to the top of the division where we were 2 weeks ago.

Holy shit, another Sox fan
These three games with the Twins will be fun to watch...


nice sweep =p BAM. Took two outta three from you scubs. Ramirez had two errors today...man we were giving him shit. My seats were right off the third base line, 16 rows up. Awesome atmosphere, awesome game. When Timo hit that two run bomb, we knew it was over. I did want to see Shingo though =(


Buehrle, Loaiza, Garland, Garcia, Schoeneweis(when he comes bac) and our monster, MONSTER offense....looking good.

fuck, I am gonna miss Olivo though =( That guy was quick, and he has a freaking cannon behind home plate.

 

[Eminem]

Let's take a look at this offense that now has another top pitcher to support it...

MLB rankings:

Runs scored: first
average: first
HRs: first
RBIs: first
OBP: third
slugging %: first


bam. Garcia is gonna start Wednesday. hot shit.

 

[Cloudy]

The Mets bullpen is just as bad as the Yankees (although Contreras was good today) lol

 

[Mrbob]

Damn. Glad I went to play paintball today instead of watching the game!

Revenge will be ours in Wrigley this coming weekend!

 

[Eminem]

hahaha

Mark is gonna make your team look like fools. Too bad you guys don't get a dose of Freddy.

 

[Joe]

The Mets bullpen is just as bad as the Yankees (although Contreras was good today) lol

uhm the yanks bullpen is great.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

The Mets bullpen is just as bad as the Yankees (although Contreras was good today) lol

Now I know why you have that tag.
If the Yanks are up entering the 7th inning the game is closed.
Quantrill has been Ok (good by most teams standards), Gordon has been amazing, and Rivera has been even better with an ERA under 1.

 

[Neutron Night]

Holy shit, another Sox fan

I thought I was the only one....

Fellow White Sox fan, I salute you! This is the year. We can't blow this division for the 4th year in a row.

 

[Eminem]

CHICAGO -- Carlos Lee was walking back to the clubhouse during batting practice Sunday morning when one of the White Sox administrators asked the left fielder what happened to his 'Cubs killer' status.

Lee entered the weekend with a career .339 average against the Cubs, eight home runs and 30 RBIs. But he was hitless in his first two games against the North Siders at U.S. Cellular Field.

"That's not me anymore," Lee said with a smile. "I gave it all to [Paul] Konerko."

hahahahha. Man the Sox always own the Cubs.

 

[Eminem]

I thought I was the only one....

Fellow White Sox fan, I salute you! This is the year. We can't blow this division for the 4th year in a row.

Shit, when Maggs comes back we'll be as good as any team in the league. We have the best offense in baseball, period. Our bullpen is good enough, though I HATE Mike Jackson. At least there's no Koch to ruin it.

There are some rumors that we were gonna send Maggs to Atlanta for Ortiz and Andruw Jones. That I wouldn't mind, as we seem sufficient enough without Ordonez in there.

 

[Kettch]

Johan Santana has finally gotten back to last years form, so it's looking to be a good race between the White Sox and Twins this year.

 

[Eminem]

I'm glad the Twins are minus Rogers, Guardado and Hawkins this year. That would have made for one tough team.

 

[Meier]

PICK YOUR CLOSER

Gagne or Mariano? What a question. We started out trying to poll hitters on this topic. Bad idea. Because it quickly became clear, three players into the survey, that hitters would rather have periodontic surgery than face either one of them. Ever.

Phillies quote machine Doug Glanville summed up the feelings of hitters everywhere, saying: "That's like comparing whether you'd like to be swallowed whole by an anaconda or thrown into a pit with black widow spiders. It just depends on where your allergies lie."

So if the hitters weren't going to help us, we went to Plan B -- and asked nine scouts. The results might amaze you, considering that Rivera is the greatest October closer of all time and isn't exactly falling apart (leading the league with 27 saves, and a 0.96 ERA). But Gagne won in a landslide, collecting eight of nine votes.

Among the reasons: "Rivera's cutter is legendary, but Gagne has three pitches he makes the best hitters in baseball look silly with." ... "If you'd asked me five years ago, I'd have taken Mariano, but today, it's Gagne. More weapons." ... "Bugs Bunny stuff." ... "He has a 94-97 mph fastball with good command, a 70-74 mph downer curve ball with huge speed change from his fastball and then the 84-87 mph nasty change that dives like the best split in the league. Fifteen hits all year. Three walks since May 1. Pitches with no runners on. And it all adds up to no chance."

The panel acknowledged that Rivera has carved a fabulous career out of throwing one pitch -- and the hitters still haven't figured out how to hit it. And the lone scout voting for Rivera said that even though Gagne is younger, he would bet on Rivera to pitch longer "because of the looseness of his arm." But it's hard to argue with 81 saves in a row. In fact, it's just about impossible.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=1826380

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

Rivera has an ERA under .93, Gagne's is 1.7
Rivera has been unbeatable for 7 years, Gagne only for 2.
Against the Yankees Gagne didn't look great. Giambi homered off him (if it wasn't for an error by Matsui the previous inning, his streak would have been over), and he got 3 called strikes (only faced 4 batters) that according to ESPN's k-zone (and even without it's help) were so further off the plate than I had ever seen a called strike, and he had 3 of them.

When Gagne comes out in the 9th (even though the streak has been incredible), you don't feel like the game is over, there is still a chance that somethign can happen.
With Rivera you assume that the game is over, and are very shocked when it isn't.

 

[Joe]

one big spot and the guy blew it.

oh and QUANGORMO OWNS ALL!

 

[Ninja Scooter]

R
When Gagne comes out in the 9th (even though the streak has been incredible), you don't feel like the game is over, there is still a chance that somethign can happen.

he's got like 80 straight saves! WTF are you talking about?

 

[Eminem]

When Gagne comes out in the 9th (even though the streak has been incredible), you don't feel like the game is over, there is still a chance that somethign can happen.
With Rivera you assume that the game is over, and are very shocked when it isn't.

Yeah, what in the fuck? are you crazy?

 

[Joe]

its only because of the streak that everyones on gagne's ass. by this logic is dimaggio the best hitter ever?

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

i dont care that gane has more "weapons" rivera is a master at closing the game. when he coems in, it's over. end of story. not taking anything away from gagne but......

 

[Eminem]

its only because of the streak that everyones on gagne's ass. by this logic is dimaggio the best hitter ever?

I don't think anyone has called Gagne the best closer ever. But right now, I'm taking Gagne over Rivera.
All-time? Rivera is a no contest. Right now? Gagne.

 

[Meier]

i dont care that gane has more "weapons" rivera is a master at closing the game. when he coems in, it's over. end of story. not taking anything away from gagne but......

From 2002-2004, let's compare their respective stats, shall we?

Rivera is 6-6 with 96 saves, 11 blown saves, 134 K's. He's thrown 150.1 innings and has given up 125 hits while walking 34.
Gagne is 8-4 with 125 saves, 4 blown saves (all coming in 2002), and 294 K's. He's thrown 196.2 innings and has given up 109 hits while walking 45. That's 46.1 innings pitched more than Rivera and yet he's allowed 4 less runners.

Uhh.. and it's not over when Gagne comes in? You Yankees fans are insane.