The N-Word Controversy: Comedian Tim Allen Questions Why He Can't Say N*****

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Kind of unrelated but all that Paula Deen controversy was because she said n-word in 1986 and thats what she admitted?

Lmao pretty damn stupid.
 
Kind of unrelated but all that Paula Deen controversy was because she said n-word in 1986 and thats what she admitted?

Lmao pretty damn stupid.

No it was because she discriminated against her black employees and want them to act like they were on the plantation and she was their master. Did you actually read the lawsuit?
 
There's a difference in using the word in context of shocking people to illicit a reaction (like a comedian does) and using the word to designate people as a lesser class of human (like Paula Deen supposedly did at one time).
 
Kind of unrelated but all that Paula Deen controversy was because she said n-word in 1986 and thats what she admitted?

Lmao pretty damn stupid.

Right? Like the people critizing her for using it 17 years ago have lived a life of such gracious character.
 
I cringe when just about anyone says that's word. So many other words you can use in it's place. Brosef is one of at least a dozen.

We should all be saying brosef I feel.
 
Kind of unrelated but all that Paula Deen controversy was because she said n-word in 1986 and thats what she admitted?

Lmao pretty damn stupid.

If you're truly interested you should read up on it. There was much more to it than that.

When you describe how you want caterers to dress as little niggers, you're doing it wrong.....
 
Who was that comedian who said whenever you see or hear the N-Word you automatically think 'nigger' in your head anyway and not actually the 'N-Word'?

'Cause I get that and I can kind of see where Allen is coming from, but saying the word over and over doesn't take the power away. At all
 
I think more comics should just nut up and pull a Louis C.K.

Say it if you want and explain why. It never made sense to me how someone chocolate toned calling me a nigger is ok yet I'm supposed to be all up-in-arms if some other ethnic group does. I think it's a stupid, disgusting word and that this plan to "take the power away from it" is silly at best ... I only every use it out of anger and never liked being referred to as one. It's one of the many strange and backwards things in our community.

If people REALLY want to take the power away from it then maybe they shouldn't pick and choose who can say it.

Here's the thing, I've been around black people my entire life, black people in the South and here in my native Chicago, and I honestly can't recall being called a nigger by one. I hate the word, and it wouldn't matter the skin color of the person who lobbed it at me.

Whenever this topic springs up I struggle with conflicting feelings. One, frustration because no one seems to acknowledge the very real difference between nigger and nigga. And two, slight embarrassment, because on the surface it's such a silly distinction that any argument over it would seem ridiculous. So I usually just opt to shut up and watch while people go back and forth about how black folk shouldn't say "nigger" either while quietly thinking to myself, "but I don't..."
 
Double standards suck. Women call each other "bitch" all the time, but if a man says it, there's hell to pay. Black people kill each other every day, but if a Hispanic guy in Florida does it, there's outrage. The US government is constantly doing shady shit to control other countries and even its own citizens through intimidation, violence, or fear. But if someone else does it in this country or another, they are terrorists.

As a white dude with lots of black friends, I've been "given permission" to use the word "nigger" around them because, I was told, "You're one of us." I turned it around on them and said, "How about I treat you like white people then and forbid you all from saying it?" To which nobody would ever agree.

I won't touch this. But I want to.
 
Who was that comedian who said whenever you see or hear the N-Word you automatically think 'nigger' in your head anyway and not actually the 'N-Word'?

'Cause I get that and I can kind of see where Allen is coming from, but saying the word over and over doesn't take the power away. At all

wasn't that Louis CK?
 
Maybe he doesn't know the rest of the bad shit Paula Dean and other racist folk do that makes the word such a taboo in the first place?
 
Oh for fucks sake it's just a fucking word
Repeat after me, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.. still does something to you? keep repeating it. The word doesn't harm, racsim does.
 
So you don't know the real reason people are upset either huh?

Yes. We need to be mad at what someone said almost 2 decades ago if we're going to have a serious discussion about race relations in America now.
 
Here's the thing, I've been around black people my entire life, black people in the South and here in my native Chicago, and I honestly can't recall being called a nigger by one. I hate the word, and it wouldn't matter the skin color of the person who lobbed it at me.

Whenever this topic springs up I struggle with conflicting feelings. One, frustration because no one seems to acknowledge the very real difference between nigger and nigga. And two, slight embarrassment, because on the surface it's such a silly distinction that any argument over it would seem ridiculous. So I usually just opt to shut up and watch while people go back and forth about how black folk shouldn't say "nigger" either while quietly thinking to myself, "but I don't..."

I feel you my nigga.
 
Oh for fucks sake it's just a fucking word
Repeat after me, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.. still does something to you? keep repeating it. The word doesn't harm, racsim does.
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Use the word or don't use it at all.

But we have dozens of threads about whether its acceptable or not. A lot of people find it an interesting thing to talk about, but don't feel comfortable using the word itself (like me, right now) for fear of accidental offense or reprisal. In that case, a substitute is needed.
 
Same guy who has defended wearing Fedora's. Post should be taken with great skepticism.

Fedoras, man.

My dad bought me a book called "The Art of Manliness" and 2 pages in it was giving advice on buying dress hats. I said "This is some fedora neckbeard shit" and never opened it again. This is what the internet has done to me... I am a sheep.
 
quoting myself because fuck effort

why the fuck are some white people so hung up on being able to use "nigger?"

oh no

a word that isn't socially acceptable for you to say

and in return all you get is like every other possible advantage

goddamn

so fuckin sick of this shit
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Oh for fucks sake it's just a fucking word
Repeat after me, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.. still does something to you? keep repeating it. The word doesn't harm, racsim does.
So why were you too scared to use the -er version?
 
Yes. We need to be mad at what someone said almost 2 decades ago if we're going to have a serious discussion about race relations in America now.
Just look up the controversy. No one cares she called the robber a nigger. People care she wanted her black employees to be slaves and for her to be their master in a plantation themed wedding.
 
I really wish people would stop self censoring the word 'nigger'.

If you have good cause to say then fucking say it!

Censoring yourself just gives the word more power.
 
Oh for fucks sake it's just a fucking word
Repeat after me, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.. still does something to you? keep repeating it. The word doesn't harm, racsim does.
they hate us cause our dicks is bigga?
 
quoting myself because fuck effort

So why were you too scared to use the -er version?

Repeat after me: nigger, nigger nigger nigger nigger, nigger nigger nigger nigger, nigger nigger nigger. BAM, the scare is gone.
If you're black and someone says nigger to you in derogatory fashion you have the right to falcon punch him in the face, but that applies to every derogatory word.. and race.

"Why can't straight people say the f-word? I have gay friends."
Same logic applies.
 
But we have dozens of threads about whether its acceptable or not. A lot of people find it an interesting thing to talk about, but don't feel comfortable using the word itself (like me, right now) for fear of accidental offense or reprisal. In that case, a substitute is needed.
There shouldn't be a discussion about it if we are not mature enough to use the word we are discussing.
 
I won't touch this. But I want to.
You did "touch it" by quoting it. Is there a problem with something I said? Serious question.

Same guy who has defended wearing Fedora's. Post should be taken with great skepticism.
Actually, I defended people's desire to wear whatever they want without assholes talking smack about them for no reason. It was a circle jerk thread full of wanna-be fashion critics bashing guys they deemed to be ugly or something.
 
Kind of unrelated but all that Paula Deen controversy was because she said n-word in 1986 and thats what she admitted?

Lmao pretty damn stupid.

No, unfortunately talking about the "n-word" controversy is ratings gold for cable news.
 
I think more comics should just nut up and pull a Louis C.K.

Say it if you want and explain why. It never made sense to me how someone chocolate toned calling me a nigger is ok yet I'm supposed to be all up-in-arms if some other ethnic group does. I think it's a stupid, disgusting word and that this plan to "take the power away from it" is silly at best ... I only every use it out of anger and never liked being referred to as one. It's one of the many strange and backwards things in our community.

If people REALLY want to take the power away from it then maybe they shouldn't pick and choose who can say it.

When I was an older teen there was a fad of white kids using the word nigger to refer to anything they thought was bad or stupid or fucked up. So if someone told them something or did something they didn't like, they were a 'nigger'. Or if door was stuck or a box was hard to open, the door was 'being a nigger', a car that wouldn't start was 'being a nigger'. Some of you may have encountered it. Some of you probably did it.

It was a display of sheltered ignorance and entitlement and disdain that I didn't see often. A personal freedom to use that word to describe everything negative in the world, and they didn't understand the origin or the irony. They certainly don't give a damn about the true misery. I wish I could impart it onto you so you could understand. But words fail.
 
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