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[soulja224466]

Martz knows mora well enough by now. We've become a lot more effective against the blitz since curtis and mcdonald have stepped up. Did you see that 30 yard swing pass to mcdonald last week? that was beautiful. plus if we ram steven jackson down their throat, play action will give extra time to pass.

Mora is a cocky little bastard, and he talked a little trash after the week2 loss. I'm sure martz takes it personally, he'll have something for him.

 

[Eminem]

You have been picking against the Steelers for the last 5 weeks and you have been dead wrong every single time. Injured? We win. Behind? We come back and win. Take out our starters and play our scrubs against a team that has to win? We STILL dominate.

what in the bloody hell are you talking about? are you retarded?
i haven't made ANY picks in any NFL thread besides this play-off one. I never picked regular season games here. But I somehow picked against the Steelers? :lol :lol whatever you wanna imagine dude

I've been consistant in saying they won't get to the superbowl. that is a fact, and i stand by it. but i dunno where you imagined I've been "picking against them the last 5 weeks" :lol
I think you're the one who is "dead wrong" there chief

You can sleep on us all year long, just remember to eat those words once we are in the Superbowl against some joke NFC team.

And you remember that entire post, because when they fall short I will quote the living hell out of it =)

 

[Eminem]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=brain/randymoss

:lol the lexus one is the best

 

[Miguel]

:lol

So which Atlanta writer voted for Vick in the MVP balloting? :lol

 

[bionic77]

And you remember that entire post, because when they fall short I will quote the living hell out of it =)

I think Konex believes the Steelers are overrated and he also believes the Colts will get to the Superbowl. That pretty much guarantees some sort of embarassing loss to the Pats this Sunday. The only thing I am afraid of is that Konex might jump on the Steelers bandwagon after we handle the Jets, that could be disastrous (for the Steelers and Konex's short term health).

Also, I could be wrong, but I was pretty sure you picked the Steelers to lose a few times in the last couple weeks like quite a few of the "experts". I am just too lazy to check the logs and confirm it (and I will gladly take it back if I am wrong).

 

[Eminem]

fuck...well, that about does it for the colts. manning is gonna have a favre-esque 6 int game this sunday.
thanks, konex. thanks a lot.

and yeah, i don't think i ever picked against the steelers, aside from my normal bashing of them
i never picked regular season games here, and i don't remember specifically saying the steelers would lose. but i, also, am too lazy to look it up for sure =)


if we have a steeler/colt AFC title game, i think we should make an avatar bet


and i just heard on ESPN the long range forecast for Foxboro on Sunday says no precipitation is even possible. I'm sure they'll end up playing in a foot of snow with sleet coming down :lol
stupid meteorologists

 

[bionic77]

fuck...well, that about does it for the colts. manning is gonna have a favre-esque 6 int game this sunday.
thanks, konex. thanks a lot.

and yeah, i don't think i ever picked against the steelers, aside from my normal bashing of them
i never picked regular season games here, and i don't remember specifically saying the steelers would lose. but i, also, am too lazy to look it up for sure =)


if we have a steeler/colt AFC title game, i think we should make an avatar bet

If they meet and the Steelers lose I will gladly sport a Jordan avatar. If Pitt wins you get to sport a lovely pic of the Messiah for a few months.

I don't know why we are having this conversation though, Konex has already decided Peyton's fate for this Saturday. Maybe next year Peyton when Konex has jumped off the bandwagon.....

 

[Eminem]

Done and done.


and the current spreads on the games:

Pittsburgh by 9 over the Jets
Atlanta by 7 over the Rams
Philly by 9.5 over the Vikings
Pats by 2 over the Colts


If I was a betting man, and I am, I would take the Colts and Vikes to cover. I started with $20 in week 1, and now am at $144.79


The sad thing? If I hadn't lost any bets all year and just kept my winnings, I'd have Total Winnings: $1813.39

=(
Damn that website for keeping track of that. Makes me all depressed.

 

[bionic77]

It is just sinking in that I might have a avatar of that bastard Jordan if Pittsburgh loses......

Don't let me down Big Ben......

 

[Matlock]

At least you'd be supporting a good player, man.

 

[Eminem]

:lol :lol nice buckwheat-Moss avatar

 

[bionic77]

At least you'd be supporting a good player, man.

You are talking about Eminem right?

 

[Matlock]

Jordan is your lord, bionic. Rise up and realize it!

 

[bionic77]

Jordan is your lord, bionic. Rise up and realize it!

If Jordan was the Lord, then I prefer the Antichrist.

In reality, neither is a deity. There are only two sports stars in the past one hundred years that have reached that status.

and

 

[firex]

If they meet and the Steelers lose I will gladly sport a Jordan avatar. If Pitt wins you get to sport a lovely pic of the Messiah for a few months.

I don't know why we are having this conversation though, Konex has already decided Peyton's fate for this Saturday. Maybe next year Peyton when Konex has jumped off the bandwagon.....

I'm beginning to think the Konex principle ONLY works on basketball. he predicted the Vikings to beat the Packers and they won rather convincingly.

also, there are truly a few players so godlike they can defy the Konex principle and succeed against what is clearly a stronger curse than every other sports curse combined. surely Peyton is one of those.

 

[bionic77]

also, there are truly a few players so godlike they can defy the Konex principle and succeed against what is clearly a stronger curse than every other sports curse combined. surely Peyton is one of those.

The Konex principle is greater then any one man. And the more Konex likes someone the stronger its power. Unforunately for Konex, Peyton is Konex's favorite football player.

 

[firex]

but he said he's on the Eagles bandwagon! and look what happened to TO!

 

[bionic77]

but he said he's on the Eagles bandwagon! and look what happened to TO!

Exactly my point! Just pray it doesn't happen to Peyton too......

There is simply no power greater then Konex's ability to pick the wrong team.

 

[firex]

but his curse just decimated the offense of his biggest bandwagon team. that says to me his curse has already struck and the colts love isn't strong enough within Konex to destroy Peyton.

 

[Ristamar]

If Jordan was the Lord, then I prefer the Antichrist.

:/

 

[DarienA]

The league plans to fine moss $5,000? That's a light tap on the wrist, not even a slap. Fined... for doing a moon dance... hilarious.

 

[firex]

I guess it was one of those "gotta do something to keep up a good public image" fines.

 

[tmdorsey]

Martz knows mora well enough by now. We've become a lot more effective against the blitz since curtis and mcdonald have stepped up. Did you see that 30 yard swing pass to mcdonald last week? that was beautiful. plus if we ram steven jackson down their throat, play action will give extra time to pass.
.

FMT, has more confidence in our secondary than I do, I think they are are pretty bad, hopefully they will step it up in this big game. I will be very surprised if the Rams are able to "ram" steven jackson down our throat. We have held better RBs like Tomlinson and Alexander to under 100 yards rushing.

I fully expect Martz to come out throwing down the field and try to get up on us quick. I hope Mora and the guys are ready.

 

[Slo]

Wow what a class act that ESPN is, not shwoing the mooning motion. I mean they didn't show that Pistons/Pacers brawl from all angles for a good 24 hours straight.

No kidding, it was more like 2 solid weeks of nothing but the same footage over and over.

 

[Kung Foo Kid]

Fucking hell. I can't believe they're probably going to fine Moss for pretending to moon.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...lug=ap-vikings-moss-mooning&prov=ap&type=lgns

Not only that, the poll results at Yahoo show that 59% of people think his actions were inappropriate. Insane.

http://post.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quizresults.php

Yah it really is sad, that fact that most people are ill informed that ever year that the Vikings bus leaves Green Bay, some of the Green Bay fans moon the Viking bus. In that respect it is justified. Interesting none of the sports channels don't mention that.

 

[Incognito]

Ok, SOMEONE HAS TO SAY IT:

THIS IS A PRODUCT OF GEORGE W. BUSH'S RELIGIOUS RIGHT AMERICA AND THE FACT THAT HE ANNOINTED COLIN POWELL'S SON TO BE HEAD OF THE FCC.

ITS A FUCKING MOON DANCE. WHAT HAS THIS COUNTRY BECOME?????

And for all the commentators and their faux outrage, eat shit and die, you "moral", upstanding indivduals. Especially that cocaine abusing, wife beating, Micheal Ivrin.

 

[lilraylewis]

Kicker Says "Pats Ripe for the Picking"

"I think they're not as good as at the beginning of the year, not as good as last year," said Vanderjagt when asked about the Patriots pedigree on Sunday evening. "And I think they are beatable. We have to play well. There's no question about that. But I think we're going to come back [to Indianapolis] Sunday night, headed to the AFC title game. I think they're ripe for the picking."

gd idiot kicker.

 

[Ristamar]

Yah it really is sad, that fact that most people are ill informed that ever year that the Vikings bus leaves Green Bay, some of the Green Bay fans moon the Viking bus. In that respect it is justified. Interesting none of the sports channels don't mention that.

I heard about that yesterday on ESPN (when they mentioned Dungy's comments). That easily bumps the incident from "harmless" to "appropriately amusing" in my eyes.

The way Joe Buck flipped when Moss performed the celebration (I didn't initially see the mooning, I only heard the reaction), I had thought Moss actually exposed his ass. When I saw the clip an hour or so later, and I saw he merely pantomimed the act, I was wondering what the fuck the fuss was all about.

 

[bishoptl]

:lol @ Vanderjagt popping off
:lol @ ESPN using the term "hindsight"
:lol @ Matlock's avatar
:lol @ bionic's fear of Jordan
:lol @ anyone daring to compare Ali to Roethifleigbkejrurger

GAF Sports Threads: Come For The Pics, Stay For The Giggles

 

[bionic77]

:lol @ bionic's fear of Jordan

Man that will suck if that becomes my avatar.

Getting back to real football news, Cowher has a tough decision to make in who to start as running back. I think he should start with Staley and see how he does, but replace him after a quarter if it looks like he can't carry the load.

 

[Spectral Glider]

If Joe "my lethargic voice is more suited to the doldrums of baseball" Buck doesn't cry like a sissy over that, then nobody cares and it would probably only be talked about like the talk of TO's copying of Ray Ray. A fake moon is nowhere near as bad as Plummer whipping a bird to his own fans.

 

[bob_arctor]

Getting back to real football news, Cowher has a tough decision to make in who to start as running back. I think he should start with Staley and see how he does, but replace him after a quarter if it looks like he can't carry the load.

That's funny, Edwards is facing almost the same kind of dilemma. There's no question Martin starts, but word has it that he wants Lamont Jordan to see plenty of action as well (if you noticed the game against the Chargers, Jordan actually was used in the 1st series of the game, which didn't happen all year--and in OT, it was all about Lamont. Plus, I think that heated exchange between Edwards and the running backs coach on the sideline had to do with Jordan's implementation).

If you remember, Jordan had that big run against the Steelers earlier this year (which would have been a real momentum swing had it not been called back on a horrible holding call against Becht). Jordan's a playmaker, plus there's also rumors of the Jets using both of 'em at the same time just to throw a little wrinkle in the gameplan.

 

[Archaix]

Cowher has to start Staley, he's too valuable to pass protection.

The Steelers offensive line is still rather shitty, the combination of Staley's blocking (the reason he has like 5 fucking catches on the year) and Roethlisberger's...not being Tommy Maddox help it look a lot better in pass plays.

Bettis gets a good amount of yards, but he still only averages 3 per in general.

 

[Ristamar]

The Steelers offensive line is still rather shitty, the combination of Staley's blocking (the reason he has like 5 fucking catches on the year) and Roethlisberger's...not being Tommy Maddox help it look a lot better in pass plays.

???

Last year the offensive line was shitty (injured/out of position). This year, it's fairly strong. When the team is 2nd in rushing yards per game, 5th in rushing TD's, and 1st in TOP (if I'm not mistaken), how exactly do they have a shitty O-line?

Granted, the yards per carry isn't stellar (4.0), but it's certainly not horrid, and many of the sacks that were given involved Roethlisberger holding the ball way too long.

 

[Archaix]

???

Last year the offensive line was shitty (injured/out of position). This year, it's fairly strong. When the team is 2nd in rushing yards per game, 5th in rushing TD's, and 1st in TOP (if I'm not mistaken), how exactly do they have a shitty O-line?

Granted, the yards per carry isn't stellar (4.0), but it's certainly not horrid, and many of the sacks that were given involved Roethlisberger holding the ball way too long.

The line is absolutely miserable when it comes to pass protection. They aren't horrible in blocking for the run, but the team simply runs more than anybody else, that's why they were near the league lead.

(edit: About the average not being so bad, it's 20th in the league. That's rather poor.)

Marvel Smith is still a bad left tackle for pass blocking, the most important role of a left tackle, and Oliver Ross I'd rate among the worst at the starting right tackle spot in the league(again, when it comes to pass protection, false starts, and holding penalties). The interior of the line is solid, but the tackles are weak at best.

Roethlisberger held on to the ball too long because he was getting raped from both sides and tried to get out of the way. He should have thrown some away, but he tried to make plays.

 

[Ristamar]

I'd agree, the pass blocking isn't spectacular, but simply saying the O-line is shitty is a bit harsh, IMO. *shrug*

 

[Eminem]

The Konex principle is greater then any one man.

:lol :lol :lol

And for the Steelers, despite who starts, I see Bettis getting more yards than Staley.


oh, and the liquored up kicker should keep his goddamn mouth shut. maybe if he would have made that FG in week 1 both team's seasons woulda been a little different. idiot kicker.

 

[Ristamar]

(edit: About the average not being so bad, it's 20th in the league. That's rather poor.)

It's not great, but it's also not that abnormal. 3 of the the top 10 teams in rushing attempts in 2003 averaged 4 or less per carry (Miami, Dallas, Carolina).

 

[tmdorsey]

The line is absolutely miserable when it comes to pass protection.

That's actually our line's problem too, good at run blocking, horrible at pass protection.

 

[Archaix]

:lol :lol :lol

And for the Steelers, despite who starts, I see Bettis getting more yards than Staley.


oh, and the liquored up kicker should keep his goddamn mouth shut. maybe if he would have made that FG in week 1 both team's seasons woulda been a little different. idiot kicker.

Maybe if Mr. G...O...D there would have seen the blitzing backer and called for a better play instead of standing there saying "Oh my, that gentleman runs swiftly towards me!" the kick would have been easier to make.

 

[Eminem]

i'm loving Simms' book so far. definitely worth any football fan's time.
Parcells comes off as even more of a badass...

Many times numbers come down to what your team believes in. When I played for Parcells, there were years when we believed in running the football, and when we threw it, we were looking for big plays. Bill wanted yards.

I'll never forget one day in practice when we had a play-action pass called, and I had two deep routes that required high-effort throws. I looked, didn't like my chances of completing them, so I threw into the flat for a 3 yard gain to the back I had faked the handoff to. Bill wasn't happy.

"Throw it down the field!" he yelled.
"I thought the coverage was too tight," I said.
Then in a very sarcastic tone he said "Well, what's the matter Simms? Are we worried about our completion percentage and quarterback rating? Is that why we're trying to get a completion to the back?"

It wasn't long before sarcasm turned to anger.

"I don't need no quarterback worried about his stats," Bill growled. "I need big plays! We design them; this is what they're for. Don't be selfish worrying about your stats. Throw it down the field when we call these plays!"

:lol :lol

 

[Eminem]

Maybe if Mr. G...O...D there would have seen the blitzing backer and called for a better play instead of standing there saying "Oh my, that gentleman runs swiftly towards me!" the kick would have been easier to make.

It's not my fault the Patriots have a pact with the devil. God was looking to make a play, and wasn't worried about battling satan incarnate. Alas.

 

[bionic77]

Cowher has to start Staley, he's too valuable to pass protection.

The Steelers offensive line is still rather shitty, the combination of Staley's blocking (the reason he has like 5 fucking catches on the year) and Roethlisberger's...not being Tommy Maddox help it look a lot better in pass plays.

Bettis gets a good amount of yards, but he still only averages 3 per in general.

I think saying the line is shitty is going a little too far. Considering how it is our "shitty" offensive line that has dominated in a lot of 4th quarters in closing out teams I don't think you can call them that. How many Steelers games have we seen where they run the ball 10 times in a row and eat up 9+ minutes of clock in the 4th quarter?

I agree that at times our pass protection has collapsed, but that is partly from some bad play calling as well. I mean there were games where we were just way too predictable on offense. Big Ben has also definitely improved a lot at getting the ball out. There was a 3 game stretch where he was holding onto the ball for like 5-6 seconds and looking a lot like Bledsoe. He still gets sacked even now, but I will take a sack any day over forcing a bad throw into coverage. It wouldn't be a bad idea for Ben to run up the middle a few times to keep the defense honest either, but he is always thinking pass (unlike "running" quarterbacks).

I still think we should start Staley because both guys can pick up those tough yards and get 3-4 on every carry, but Duce (if he is healthy) has breakaway speed to turn any run into a huge one. When Bettis gets those blocks he is still slow enough to bring him down after 15 yards, whereas Staley might break it for 50.

We are still in a great position, always better to have too many good players then not enough.

 

[Spectral Glider]

Bettis is averaging 3.8 this year, Staley 4.3. If Staley is 100%, then I'd give him the start and the bulk of the carries. As it stands now though, with him being a slight question mark, I start the Bus and see how he goes and then work in Staley. But Haynes and Parker are also pretty good off the bench, both averaging more than either Staley or Bettis. But that's mostly due to long draws in limited action. Still, it's a good situation for the team to be in actually.

 

[bionic77]

Bettis is averaging 3.8 this year, Staley 4.3. If Staley is 100%, then I'd give him the start and the bulk of the carries. As it stands now though, with him being a slight question mark, I start the Bus and see how he goes and then work in Staley. But Haynes and Parker are also pretty good off the bench, both averaging more than either Staley or Bettis. But that's mostly due to long draws in limited action. Still, it's a good situation for the team to be in actually.

Exactly my point. It isn't like either guy is a fumbler or garbage. We have 2 great backs and 2 really solid backups.

I really smell blowout on this game too. If the Pats were healthy I would have said the same thing for them, but as it stands I have no idea what will happen in that game. I like the odds of Em having a Ben Roethlisberger avatar come Monday though.

 

[soulja224466]

If the patriots win this sunday, the steelers are in big trouble next week.

 

[Ristamar]

Meh. At this point, I'd rather see the Steelers face the Pats. They're just as beat up now as they were when the two faced off earlier in the year.

 

[bionic77]

If the patriots win this sunday, the steelers are in big trouble next week.

Seriously, for being 15-1 the Steelers sure as hell don't get any respect.

The way people talk abou the Steelers we are the underdogs against everyone. :lol

 

[soulja224466]

It's not that nobody has respect for pittsburg. But if bellichick finds a way to beat peyton manning, with that secondary, then he's not gonna be stopped.

I hate the patsies just as much as anybody. But they do know how to beat people, and they'll employ any tactics to do it, legal or not.

 

[bionic77]

It's not that nobody has respect for pittsburg. But if bellichick finds a way to beat peyton manning, with that secondary, then he's not gonna be stopped.

I hate the patsies just as much as anybody. But they do know how to beat people, and they'll employ any tactics to do it, legal or not.

I agree that Tom Brady is pure evil and the Pats are a tough team for anyone to beat, but one huge advantage Pittsburgh will have that Indy won't have is that we already beat the crap out of them in the regular season. Half of Bellichick's abilities comes from his reputation and the fear that gives to qbs. We shouldn't have that fear and would be more confident of beating them then anyone else.

If anything, I think the Pats would be the ones having some doubts coming into Pittsburgh.