What? There's like 3 dozen games out for it. Is that tons?
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The Nintendo Switch has become the system people love to love
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What? There's like 3 dozen games out for it. Is that tons?
Colonel Mustard
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Because it's the preferred way for some to play games?
I could go downstairs right now and play Bayonetta 1 and 2, Pokken Tournament, Color Color Splash or Smash Brothers...but I'd rather play them on the Switch. I love JRPGs, so I could go buy Persona 5 and play it on the PS3 if I really wanted...but due to my lifestyle I'd likely dump 30 minutes in and quit like I did with TMS#FE.
Games are better for me when I don't need to dedicate hours of time in front of a TV. I'm not a 15 year old on summer break, I don't have time for that sort of thing.
Where did i suggested this entire thread is salty? Also, a negative comment doesn't make it salty, but it's easy to identify the ones full of disdain.
Anyway, we're going off-topic, let's just end it here.
Totally anecdotal of course, but after being solely an xbox fanboy for generations I grabbed one of these for my kids and it seduced me after a few hours.
Zelda in the living room - while kids play and watch tv .. something snapped. I realized I could play games.. real. games. without having to sneak away to my gaming den.
My mind went ablaze with the options if Ninty and 3rd parties get their shit together.
I would have no problem choosing multi plats on this. time and time again
Zelda in the living room - while kids play and watch tv .. something snapped. I realized I could play games.. real. games. without having to sneak away to my gaming den.
My mind went ablaze with the options if Ninty and 3rd parties get their shit together.
I would have no problem choosing multi plats on this. time and time again
Haha, is this sarcasm?
I have a PS4 I really enjoy but I would like to get Zelda and Ori and The Blind Forest.
IlGialloMondadori
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Skittzo0413
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Because the hardware actually brings a unique proposition to games that other hardware does not? I have a Switch and PC and will buy any multiplat that comes to the Switch on the Switch rather than the PC, because it's just so much better and easier to play games on.
I'll have bought 10 games within the first 3 months of the console being on sale. I can honestly say I've never bought close to that many games this early in a console's lifetime. Anecdotal of course, but I suspect there are a lot of others like me.
This means you don't have Snipperclips, which is probably the best local multiplayer game on the system yet (besides MK8D). Get Snipperclips, it's so much fun to play with friends when you're out and about.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
It is for sure, but I have to say I really enjoy the Switch. I'm a Nintendo fan and I've never hated any of their systems but something about the Switch just feels right in a way the Wii U never did. I love the hybrid nature for when I travel, even though I play it docked 90% of the time. I like the fact that it uses carts, The way I can wake it up and get into a game very quickly and just as quickly put it back to sleep. I also appreciate that Nintendo has so far avoided the horrible post-launch software droughts that have plagued past systems. I have purchased 3 cart-based games and also 4 downloadable titles, all of which are games that are either exclusive or do not suffer in their Switch incarnations. It's never going to replace any hardcore gamer's PC/PS4/X1 but that's been true for Nintendo's systems a long time, including the Wii. But I think it could be a casual user's only console, or a great secondary system for the hardcore gamer.
Anecdotally I've got a friend who is primarily a PC gamer who recently purchased a Switch. The last console he purchased was the Wii. It may not mean anything but I think it's a good sign.
The key to making the honeymoon period last is a steady stream of software. If Nintendo can keep it up through the end of the year, the Switch marriage will be strong and last for years to come.
Just imagine, by the end of the year this will no longer be true. Xenoblade 2, Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey, and ARMS will all be exclusive to this hardware.
But I do agree that the form factor of the hardware is a major selling point even for traditional games. Previous "unique" Nintendo hardware didn't have that going - it was a major selling point only for games that took advantage of the hardware (ie motion controls or touch screen controls). But with Switch, every single game (except for that one rhythm game) takes full advantage of the unique form factor of the hardware automatically. It's pretty nifty that a hardware advancement can give a such fresh feeling to old games.
This weekend I played some local multiplayer Puyo Puyo Tetris with a friend at a booth in a diner. I could have never really done that before all on one system.
A Serious Man
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I own a PS4, X1 and PC and purchased a Switch soon after launch to see what all the buzz was about. After around 80 hours of playing BotW something finally dawned on me; I was bored with with Zelda. I haven't turned my Switch on since.
I don't get how you missed the correlation of the GameCube to a Nintendo Vita, it's pointing out how making a more powerful console doesn't guarantee success. Even the Gameboy showed that against its competitors.
I do know what Nintendo's handheld sales are like, Nintendo handhelds are on a decline now due to Smartphones. It's irrelevant how they were years ago because the environment has changed and Nintendo has to adapt.
Nintendo decided to make games for Smartphones because they couldn't figure out how to make a new handheld that would surpass the 3DS in HW sales and not leave investors pissy about not making mobile games.
So they decided to make mobile games and released the Switch, why else haven't we heard about a 3DS successor? Because they couldn't figure out how to make it successful.
I never said anything about their mobile games replacing handhelds, just that Nintendo haven't been able to make a handheld that can do better sales than the 3DS with the environment that it is in.
I consider the Switch Pro controller to be the best of the bunch, I'd like to use it with almost every game out there. With exception of The Last of Us and games like that. Those games thrive on the better PS4 hardware and I want them to be those great graphical experiences. And of course the portability factor. I don't want to play Persona 5 on TV all the time. I could only finish Persona 4 because it was on the Vita. Tokyo Mirage Sessions on the Wii U I stopped playing after 20h or something.
PooBone
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LOL, okay. Your definition of insane seems insane. "Tons" of software does not mean there's much worth purchasing. Especially when I already own and play Zelda on another system, and have access to Mario Kart 8 as well... the two best rated titles on the platform
EDIT: I should also add that I own an Xbox One and PS4 as well. What announced exclusives are even coming out for this thing in the future? I feel it's likely I'll skip this gen, like I wish I had with the Wii.
TheGreyHulk
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Brought my switch over to my friends so my daughter can play it but then i showed them mk8 and broke off the controls and put the kick stand on and they were instantly amazed at it.
Nintendo nailed it with the concept
Nintendo nailed it with the concept
Before considering the Switch a good system, i want to see how Virtual Console is going to be handled, if eshop prices will ne more competitive compare dto what Microsoft and Sony do, and the evolution of third party as a whole. Two motnhs is still a bit early to praise or doom the system.
Just wanted to add that I called it when I said that this console was brilliant. The only thing that's lacking is some power, but that can come in the next gen.
For me, I personally knew I would want this based on the following:
1) My experience with PlayStation portable - I was actually very close to buying a Vita because I absolutely loved the convenience of playing the PSP everywhere with it's 3 hour long battery life (lol). My cousins owned one and I would just casually play it all the time when I visited them. Vita was an improvement on that, and it had remote play, which is a gaming changing feature. I use this on my thin windows tablet when traveling.
2) I skipped the Nitendo Wii U - so I pretty much get to play a superior version of all the games I wanted on the Wii U, except it's on a much better executed console.
3) USB C and expandable storage. I have Samsung flagship phone and tablet so I'm pretty much winning here
PC gaming is going to be taking a break for a long time. There are too many great PS4 exclusives that I've been playing and once I pick up a Switch again, that will probably be played heavily.
For me, I personally knew I would want this based on the following:
1) My experience with PlayStation portable - I was actually very close to buying a Vita because I absolutely loved the convenience of playing the PSP everywhere with it's 3 hour long battery life (lol). My cousins owned one and I would just casually play it all the time when I visited them. Vita was an improvement on that, and it had remote play, which is a gaming changing feature. I use this on my thin windows tablet when traveling.
2) I skipped the Nitendo Wii U - so I pretty much get to play a superior version of all the games I wanted on the Wii U, except it's on a much better executed console.
3) USB C and expandable storage. I have Samsung flagship phone and tablet so I'm pretty much winning here
PC gaming is going to be taking a break for a long time. There are too many great PS4 exclusives that I've been playing and once I pick up a Switch again, that will probably be played heavily.
mindatlarge
Member
No, you're not alone. I've always preferred home consoles over portable ones and like you, I enjoy how quick and snappy it is getting into a game. The option to then take it portable is icing on the cake.
I'd pay it attention but it has a huge battle in front of it:
Nintendo's flagship console vs. Sony's "as well as" unit.
True, the thing is, technology wise we are finally at a stage where a handheld console like the Switch with about 1,5+ times PS3 power is possible. The system is capable of 900p for most of its games on the big screen and some even 1080p@60fps(Mario Kart 8) and we're very early in the systems life circle.
I can't wait to see what the Switch will offer in the near future, I think Mario Odyssey will be a benchmark on things to come and that's already releasing in roughly half a year, perhaps along with Xenoblade X2. That said I think the technologie is not yet there were I'd like it to be, the Tegra is powerful but still a bit lacking, I guess the Switch II will satisfy 90% of the gamers, the rest won't be satisfied by the PS5 either.
Yeah it sucks how Zelda only provided you with 80 hours of fun. /s
Principate
Saint Titanfall
The switch is the 3DS successor. Just because you you can plug it into a tv through a dock does it not stop it from being so. Why do you think it was announced alongside the mobile plans. Investors wanted Nintendo to leave hardware fullstop. Nintendo really, really didn't want to do that so made a half measure. They released mobile games to appease investors and to work as advertisements for their games. Super Mario go has nothing to do with making money on mobile (that should be blatantly obvious). It's a advert to push mobile gamers to their devices. They explicitly stated this. Some of their games are more aggressive in their pricing strategy (e.g fire emblem). Some less.
Pokémon Go drove a massive increase in sales for all their handheld Pokémon games. Seeing this they were confident in moving forward. This is literally their strategy as they themselves have stated it.
Super Mario Go was released alongside Super Mario /maker 3DS. fire emblem heroes with Fire emblem echoes. They've stated this is their plan. They'll be an animal cross mobile game to go along with the next animal cross instalment.
Spyder_Monkey
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It's literally impossible for a Vita 2 to succeed for the same reasons the first Vita couldn't succeed.
Jawbreaker
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To be frank, I can't relate to the fanaticism I've seen from some people regarding the Switch. That being said, I also understand that I'm not a huge fan of handheld systems and prefer to play games where they're most technically proficient a sentiment that may not exist in other people.
It's nice to see Nintendo succeed because it makes for a healthier industry.
It's nice to see Nintendo succeed because it makes for a healthier industry.
The real test is whether people will still want to play on the Switch once RDR2, Destiny 2, GTA6 etc hit the shelves.
Also people are assuming that playing on games during breaks is something everybody will continuously want to do. That's the kind of warped reality that these businesses have to surround themselves in.
The Switch reveal trailer still looks ridiculous because concepts like guys choosing to play on a Switch between basketball, man at airport creeping out a woman with it, and of course Karen missing the entire point of the fucking drinking party aren't feasible views on society's natural choice of using such a device.
But props to the German ad for using it on the loo.
J
Jpop
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Why are you in a thread arguing about a console that you aren't even going to get?
Why do you need someone to tell you what exclusives the Switch has coming, everyone has google?
You might want to dock it either way, it's more powerful than you'd think on the TV. I was fearing it wouldn't satisfy me and that I would also only play it as a handheld, but after playing 100 hours of BotW on my 50" TV with only 2m of viewing distance I was very pleased by the look of it. Sure there are popups but they fade away when you have that awesome "Nintendo" artstyle backing the whole game up.
Nobody is calling the Switch a 3DS successor, they keep calling it "what the Wii U should have been."
You seem to have missed the announcement earlier in the year where Kimishima decided that mobile games would be a new stream of revenue for Nintendo, so it is no longer just for advertising Nintendo games.
Yes, Pokémon Go drove sales for their other Pokémon games and the hardware it was on, I know that. How does that guarantee a Nintendo Vita would have done better than 3DS?
OrbitalBeard
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butman
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Thread title is advertorial too.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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It's a great console with good games that is a pleasure to hold and play. I'm in love.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
By the vita 2 they mean it has a bunch of evangelists that want to play every console game portably before they prefer the form factor.
Liliana Eileen
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Nintendo is back, baby
Buggy Loop
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I've said this in a couple of threads but..
Switch's concept only works because it has become the ONLY (let's not kid ourselves, 3DS will drop like a brick with how successful switch is) platform from the manufacturer. Hybrids only make sense when there are no other platforms eating away support from the main studios.
Would Sony fans be OK with no more big powerful boxes and have hybrids? Meh, i seriously doubt that. Nintendo got us used to not break the graphical barriers since a while now, it's totally different expectations between the platform companies.
A Vita 2 with tier B studios, and main studios focusing on PS4 pro & PS5 eventually, is inevitably bound to fail.
Would Switch be as much of a success if everyone knew there was a new upcoming more powerful console from them coming up and that the libraries would not be compatible? I seriously doubt it would be. Switch is a promise of consolidating handheld/console games from Nintendo.
sigh, people who like systems other than than the big two are always fanatics, while others are just core gamers.
If you think about it, I am also convinced the Switch will be the real 3DS successor, however... Nintendo didn't seem to be that convinced in the first place. Just look at their shipment numbers, they shipped enough systems for a WiiU-Successor but by far not enough for a real 3DS successor, they had to double production within the systems launch week to at least satisfy demand to some part.
It's a bit sad to see it this way, as it shows that Nintendo had lost faith into their fans with the WiiU, it's understandable though, the WiiU bombed big time and cost Nintendo dearly, they produced lots of systems that just wasted away in storage facilities and store shelfs. Sales wise I fully expect the Switch to sell at least the amount the 3DS did, probably much more and perhaps in reach of the Wii or even NDS. Only time will tell and we'll see if Nintendo puts all their effort into this one plattform, if they do, I don't have any reason to not expect the system to do very very well.
so not only is it too early to say Nintendo's Switch is successful (which is fair), it's also too early to even say we enjoy it....
Could happen, but considering Vita's failure, honestly I don't see this happening. Still too early for a portable PS4.
Whatever, Nintendo has always been the king of portables. Sony couldn't get Nintendo out of the throne, tablets and smartphones haven't either. And with the hybrid concept, Nintendo is the king once again.
family_guy
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Still. I imagine some people bought the Switch who haven't owned a Nintendo console for the better part of a decade or longer. When you think about it, the two flagship releases for Switch are games that exist on Wii U, and we're getting a sequel to Splatoon, which was also on Wii U. Outside of Zelda which was released simultaneously, these games weren't enough to get them to buy a Wii U but now they are good enough to get a Switch? I think the hype is part of the reason that's getting people to jump in right now. It has the hype the Wii U didn't have even though the games are largely the same right now.
The Greek Freak
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Replace mk8d with puyo puyo tetris I'm in the same boat.
I'd kill for something else to play on this that I actually liked.
I have less than zero interest in arms and near zero for splatoon so it might be wait until the fall for me.
Minsc
Gold Member
Yeah, the potential Vita 2 or whatever (hopefully they give it a new name), would be in a awkward situation because nearly every game released on it would be the inferior version next to the PS4 (doubly so for Pro) release.
Nintendo doesn't have to worry about this, and every game they release is the only version, no better version exists to consider buying instead. And even if Sony choose to release Vita 2 only games, so there's no superior version, there'd just be a split market, another aspect they can't match with the Switch (one device, plays all the games).
It's a small point, but definitely shows a degree of "all-in" that Sony could never have with a Vita 2. Their high-end console market is too large, and that audience by in large isn't interested in a weaker hybrid or portable console that can't play stuff at beyond 1080p and 60fps and would feel like a step backwards.
Liliana Eileen
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Calm down, warrior. Why do you care so much since you don't own one? Your post history is absurd.
This post also makes no sense. If people love their Switch, OF COURSE they will care if they're being left out of games coming to other systems.
Switch is a fantastic system and deserves a fitting library including 3rd parties, too. There is nothing wrong with saying that.