AdmiralViscen
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The Offical "The Departed" Thread (Reviews/Anticipation/Reactions)!
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yeah. i liked it quite a bit as i said. i didn't really mind the end because that was how this movie was set up over IA, but from hearing people talk, i thought we were going to get saddled with something like the mainland Chinese ending of IA.
speaking of, i wonder how the mainlanders felt about IA3...
speaking of, i wonder how the mainlanders felt about IA3...
SCULLIBUNDO
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I can't believe you're from Japan! Who are you again?
Scullibundo said:
Not in that sense. In the sense of "Oh, you think you're such hot shit 'cuz you live in Japan, you always mention it."
I don't, really. :/
Really looking forward to seeing this movie...but I'll have to wait for the DVD, I guess.
Solo, did you see No Direction Home? I hear it's supposed to be great, but I dunno if it would have an effect on me seeing as how I don't like Bob Dylan all that much.
Ichirou_Oogami said:
So will you get The Departed theatrically at all? And if so, will it be in Japanese? Or are you stuck waiting 4 months or so for the DVD?
EDIT: no I havent, Oogami. I am seriously lacking in seeing Scorsese's documentaries. In fact, I dont think Ive seen a single one of them
Ive seen almost all his features, but no docs yet.Solo said:So will you get The Departed theatrically at all? And if so, will it be in Japanese? Or are you stuck waiting 4 months or so for the DVD?
It has DiCaprio in it, and he has a lot of fangirls here, so we MIGHT get it (Japan got The Aviator...dunno about Gangs of New York). But if we do get it, it'll be four months from now...if not, I'll just have to wait for the DVDs.
Usually only the big blockbuster type US movies come out here - Pirates of the Caribbean, X-Men 3, Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift, Superman Returns, etc. Probably the only way to see dramas and such is to go to arthouse theaters in Tokyo.
Solo said:So will you get The Departed theatrically at all? And if so, will it be in Japanese? Or are you stuck waiting 4 months or so for the DVD?
EDIT: no I havent, Oogami. I am seriously lacking in seeing Scorsese's documentaries. In fact, I dont think Ive seen a single one of them
Dude, you must watch A Personal Journey Through American Movies. It's like a miniature film school, Scorsese-style. He guides you through the early years of cinema, and he does it in such a remarkable way - he has a really infectious enthusiasm about all these old movies, you can't help but be caught up in it. And the best thing about this (and his other movie documentary about Italian films) is that they were made for guys like us, people in their twenties who are really diehard film fans - he made them so that young people would get into the history of film and watch all these old movies that might otherwise fade into obscurity.
Well, you are a good salesman, Oogami, as you have just sold me on it. I will seek this out! But I agree about his love of cinema being infectious. Several different films I own he appears on the DVD for (Vertigo comes to mind instantly), and you can tell the man lives and breathes film, is extremely knowledgable, and just loves it.
Solo said:
That's why I love Scorsese. No other filmmaker I know of loves film as much as he does. The guy could talk about a documentary on the slow growth of peat moss and make it sound exciting.
He better win an Oscar for The Departed. What other living American filmmaker has crafted as many classic, important films as Scorsese?!
I also saw several of the movies he talked about in that documentary, because he recommended them. Amazing gems that I otherwise would've completely missed out on...
Infernal affairs shits all over this.
The level of emotion that is displayed in IA characters completelly destroys this movie.
This is simply IA in hollywood, obviouslly you gotta make them **** the same women, or there would be no "love triangle", so you had to make Di caprio **** her, because apparently Hollywood has this really big problem where either they **** eachother or they don't care about eachother.
There's no emotion in this movie, i didn't care for any of the characters, it doesn't have the touch, and neither does it have the "tense" moments that exist in IA, not to mention a shitty score.
Great acting thought.
The level of emotion that is displayed in IA characters completelly destroys this movie.
This is simply IA in hollywood, obviouslly you gotta make them **** the same women, or there would be no "love triangle", so you had to make Di caprio **** her, because apparently Hollywood has this really big problem where either they **** eachother or they don't care about eachother.
There's no emotion in this movie, i didn't care for any of the characters, it doesn't have the touch, and neither does it have the "tense" moments that exist in IA, not to mention a shitty score.
Great acting thought.
After watching both IA and TD, I'm gonna have to say TD is a better film. I don't know what you guys were talking about the whole emotion felt in IA, but the characters were so "calm" in that film, even during some of the most intense moments.
The Departed, to me, showed a much better level of emotion that these characters should experience in given situation, and made the film much more intense for me.
The Departed, to me, showed a much better level of emotion that these characters should experience in given situation, and made the film much more intense for me.
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Pellham said:
That's not how you spell Wellington. Or were you saying LOTR has shit CG compared to what Hollywood can pump out?
PleoMax said:
Subjective, obviously, but I cannot agree with that opinion in any way, shape or form.
PleoMax said:
The acting is better in TD, as is the writing, and the characters are all more fleshed out than IA's.
PleoMax said:
Actually, the Hollywood way would be to have Billy and Colin find out about eachother and Madolyn, or have some baby mama drama. Scorsese sidestepped those cliches nicely.
PleoMax said:
Again, taste is obviously subjective, but I dont think IA was better than TD in any way except for perhaps the Lau/Damon character's arc in IA. This film was brimming with emotion, I definately cared for several of the characters (based on the reaction of audiences to Leo's demise, so did most of them too). Anyways, different stokes I guess. Personally, this makes my short list of remakes that best the original.
PleoMax said:
Well at least we can agree on a single point.
Templar Wizard
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i just saw it and i liked it and it bored me for several reasons.
American casting beats chinese original. Im sure they all saw the original and had a point of reference ie: tone it down and 'add a level'.
Plus they had an expanded script. I liked the 'additional' scenes. Monahan could have watched the movie stoned a few times and could easily come up with 'arms and legs'.
But.
And this is what got me, why why why why why why lift entire direlogue from IA??? prime example: 'if they ignore you, they are a cop!', yes, i know they said it to billy like in IA, but it was a nasty lift.
As was most of the same location setting.
Come on Marty, you are better than scene for scene.
With what was left in from the original, I was quite surprised what was left out: the little techniques. The morse code, the mental sprinting of Lau's character when he is in the zone. some interesting detective work would have been nice, not Deus Ex Machina CSI, but some smart segments. Both guys were supposed to be smart, I would like to have seen it
All in all, its a good movie. But I didnt expect 'City on Fire' from Marty S.
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nice mix of G3 Irish, but crime crime crime, WHERE THE **** WAS LEARY ASSHOLE?
American casting beats chinese original. Im sure they all saw the original and had a point of reference ie: tone it down and 'add a level'.
Plus they had an expanded script. I liked the 'additional' scenes. Monahan could have watched the movie stoned a few times and could easily come up with 'arms and legs'.
But.
And this is what got me, why why why why why why lift entire direlogue from IA??? prime example: 'if they ignore you, they are a cop!', yes, i know they said it to billy like in IA, but it was a nasty lift.
As was most of the same location setting.
Come on Marty, you are better than scene for scene.
With what was left in from the original, I was quite surprised what was left out: the little techniques. The morse code, the mental sprinting of Lau's character when he is in the zone. some interesting detective work would have been nice, not Deus Ex Machina CSI, but some smart segments. Both guys were supposed to be smart, I would like to have seen it
All in all, its a good movie. But I didnt expect 'City on Fire' from Marty S.
Coda:
nice mix of G3 Irish, but crime crime crime, WHERE THE **** WAS LEARY ASSHOLE?
AdmiralViscen
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PleoMax said:
1. Scorsese isn't "Hollywood."
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There was no love triangle, they shared a woman to reduce the length of the flick. It did not devolve into a typical Hollywood love triangle.
4. lol shitty score LOL
Although I could agree that Gimme Shelter was overused. It'd be okay if there was some kind of musical symbolism to the reuses of it (and which parts of it were used), but if there was I didn't pick up on it. Anyone have anything to say about that?
I don't have the energy to discuss the other aspects of the movie right now (short version: I think it was better than his last two movies, but nowhere near his best). But Howard Shore's score (which dominates the second half) sounded like leftover bits that didn't make the cut for Cronenberg movies. Post-LOTR the only score I've liked from him is "A History of Violence."
And isn't this the third Scorsese movie that "Gimme Shelter" has appeared in?
And isn't this the third Scorsese movie that "Gimme Shelter" has appeared in?
I really really loved the whole morse code thing from IA -
Leonardo never should have gotten to **** the doctor, who should have played a smaller role. I sort of liked how he never told her his situation in TD - but I wish it had been more apparent how badly he needed someone to tell. TD was also much less focused on Leo's potential complete loss of identity, and seemed more concerned with the revenge/justice aspect.
In other words, Americanized. Still really great, though. Also a good Dropkick Murphys song!
Finally saw this. It's really good, but nowhere near Scorsese's best. It just doesn't get under your skin like Taxi Driver or Mean Streets or Goodfellas or hell, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore.
Anyway, it's a masterfully made crime movie, but it's way too pulpy to be considered one of his best. The acting was great. Leo in particular was excellent. And that elevator scene was just shocking.
Anyway, it's a masterfully made crime movie, but it's way too pulpy to be considered one of his best. The acting was great. Leo in particular was excellent. And that elevator scene was just shocking.
I'm from Hong Kong (as are my friends), and everyone that I've spoken to has commented that some of the characters have lost their depth. In particular, the Eastern sense of brotherhood, the lack of a "Wong Sir", and the original's confused morality makes it, in their minds, inferior.
I still have not seen this yet, but those are interesting comments...
I still have not seen this yet, but those are interesting comments...
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Solo said:
Me too. It sends a shiver down my spine.
Cornballer
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I finally saw this last night. I thought it was a great movie with a few minor flaws. I didn't like
- just seemed to on the nose. Otherwise, very well acted and the ending was shocking even though I've seen Infernal Affairs before.
the shot of the rat in the closing scene
I caught it yesterday and generally enjoyed it. It does some things better than IA and some worse.
The Departed had a few moments where it just blew surprises.
The Departed had a few moments where it just blew surprises.
Namely, not having Martin Sheen's fall from the building be without warning, like in the original. Instead we hear the glass break, we see him fall, then we see him hit the ground by DiCaprio. Should have just been that last bit so it'd be as shocking to us as it was to DiCaprio.
Likewise, the final meeting between Nicholson and Damon was too set up. I loved in the original how the movie follows the bad guys during that whole sequence, and we track the boss as he scrambles through the parking garage until finally making that call and hearing the ring echo throughout. That was a chilling moment when you realize the two were together. In The Departed, we knew Damon was there and also, having Nicholson be wounded prevented a mad attempted escape. It was obvious what was coming.
The other one was I didn't care for how both sides acknowledged their moles at different times and so slowly. The original kicked ass at getting that revelation out by forcing both sides to acknowledge it the same night.
Likewise, the final meeting between Nicholson and Damon was too set up. I loved in the original how the movie follows the bad guys during that whole sequence, and we track the boss as he scrambles through the parking garage until finally making that call and hearing the ring echo throughout. That was a chilling moment when you realize the two were together. In The Departed, we knew Damon was there and also, having Nicholson be wounded prevented a mad attempted escape. It was obvious what was coming.
The other one was I didn't care for how both sides acknowledged their moles at different times and so slowly. The original kicked ass at getting that revelation out by forcing both sides to acknowledge it the same night.
I'd have to agree. I think it was odd that she became involved in two very different men. Maybe if Damon's character had at some point sought redemption like in the original, but instead he was a rat, through and through. That's probably my major complaint of the film. It would have been more fun if at some point in the film he turned himself around, and the audience would have to deal with reconciling his previous actions with his new goals.Andy Lau said:
And if the ending with Damon's death remained, it would have thrown the audience for another loop in examining how they feel about the characters and their actions from the earlier 2.5 hours.
Gearharaden
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Great movie, but it suffers from the Scorsese flu, the multiple ending one.
I thought it was going to end around right after
little did I know I was in for another hour, but what an hour it was. All the
was so awesome. There was alot of people laughing in the theater, and rightly so since the last 15-20 minutes was so great, I was cracking up the whole time.
I thought it was going to end around right after
Nicholson took the bullets
headshotting
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