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Gearharaden said:
Yeah, they're just gonna wrap it up without any closure for the main characters *rolleyes*
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Yeah, they're just gonna wrap it up without any closure for the main characters *rolleyes*
Ok, this film has the best drops Ive seen in ages. It will be Marty's highest grossing film when all is said and done.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2006&wknd=42&p=.htm
A mere 29% drop from Week 1 to Week 2, and an even smaller 28% drop from Week 2 to Week 3. Extremely impressive.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2006&wknd=42&p=.htm
A mere 29% drop from Week 1 to Week 2, and an even smaller 28% drop from Week 2 to Week 3. Extremely impressive.
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Solo said:
Did you not see it coming the first time?
MaverickX9
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I pretty much thought it was guaranteed when he stepped on the elevator (elevators = death traps). I was shocked when it wasn't Anthony Anderson that shot him, though.
I have to catch the original movie sometime.
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tt_deeb said:
Using Movie Logic 101, I think we can safely deduce.
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Solo said:
Yeah, I thought all the headshots in the movie were pretty big in "wow" factor
Very well done
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Joe Molotov said:
Movie Logic 101 calls for the baby to become a central plotline.
I finaly got out to see this. It delivered on all my expectations. I have seen IA and loved it too. I'm prefer the original ending but I can see why he changed it. If he had left it like IA and just had Matt Damon get away with it. It would have been forever compared to Goodfellas. The whole he was rat but in the end he walk away would have just been to close to Goodfellas. I bet Marty thought you know what I've done this before lets just give them one more headshot. I kind of hope he dosent get an Oscar for it. He is by far my fav director and I like that he just dosent fit in.
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AdmiralViscen said:
I bet they intended to do something else with that, but ended up cutting it since the movie was already getting kinda long. It seemed like a plot thread that was going to go somewhere, but then it just didn't.
Dice
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Ok I saw it and thought it was great as did many people but...
As for common things brought up here...
When dude told Costigan how he gave him the wrong address but Costigan still found them and goes "Tell me why I didn't say anything" Uhh... why didn't he? Was he supposed to be another cop? A different FBI informant? I'm confused.
As for common things brought up here...
They both got it on with Madolyn so she wouldn't have certainty about the baby's father, making it easier to do what she had to do at the end. She was obviously a passionate and compassionate person who saw the world according to rules and principles, social boundries and whatnot and used them to keep her passion in check and order in her life.
Costigan crossed some of these boundries and the bold honesty of it overloaded her passionate side, turned her on so she went along with crossing her principles and got busy with him, though she dropped him after because of her principles. However, that allowed trust and feeling a bit emotionally indebted to him to care to do what he asked.
When she learned about Sullivan that was big time since obviously Sullivan didn't give a crap about the kind of rules and principles she did. Not only were they were polar opposites but he was playign her just like everyone else and she didn't want to deal with him but held back from doing anything because they might have made a baby together.
However, after Costigan was killed she would have opened the envelope and known it was Sullivan's fault. It probably did have a way to contact Dignam since Queenan was dead and with Costigan also dead nobody else would be left to know who Costigan even was (opposed to the way Sullivan painted him) to nail Sullivan. She had the uncertainty of who the baby's father was to allow herself to hand him over to Dignam's justice, she probably even game him the house key.
Costigan crossed some of these boundries and the bold honesty of it overloaded her passionate side, turned her on so she went along with crossing her principles and got busy with him, though she dropped him after because of her principles. However, that allowed trust and feeling a bit emotionally indebted to him to care to do what he asked.
When she learned about Sullivan that was big time since obviously Sullivan didn't give a crap about the kind of rules and principles she did. Not only were they were polar opposites but he was playign her just like everyone else and she didn't want to deal with him but held back from doing anything because they might have made a baby together.
However, after Costigan was killed she would have opened the envelope and known it was Sullivan's fault. It probably did have a way to contact Dignam since Queenan was dead and with Costigan also dead nobody else would be left to know who Costigan even was (opposed to the way Sullivan painted him) to nail Sullivan. She had the uncertainty of who the baby's father was to allow herself to hand him over to Dignam's justice, she probably even game him the house key.
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Joe Molotov said:
Nah.
I can't hide my enthusiasm: GOD FREAKING DAMN WHAT AN AWESOME MOVIE
I hope that doesn't deter the handful of elitist film buffs from taking my opinion seriously.
I should say first that I haven't seen Internal Affairs. Thank goodness. It's obvious that doing so really dampens the experience. It removes many of the surprises and people are naturally, then, always in a comparison state of mind. That is no way to enjoy a movie.
In fact, after seeing the amazing reviews I decided to not even watch the trailer (had seen it long before, but forgotten practically everything) and went in 100% virgin. I can safely say that I came several times. The ending gave me multiple orgasms.
The acting was very, very good. I'm generally pretty critical of acting, but I thought Matt Damon (who I normally don't like) was great, Mark Whalberg was great, DiCaprio was excellent (generally a fan), and Nicholson was larger-than-life awesome. Alec Baldwin was hilarious, too. The supporting cast was strong - no complaints.
Very funny, too. The scene in the theatre had me laughing so hard.
How can you not love the ending?
AWESOME MOVIE. 10/10. Recommended.
I hope that doesn't deter the handful of elitist film buffs from taking my opinion seriously.
I should say first that I haven't seen Internal Affairs. Thank goodness. It's obvious that doing so really dampens the experience. It removes many of the surprises and people are naturally, then, always in a comparison state of mind. That is no way to enjoy a movie.
In fact, after seeing the amazing reviews I decided to not even watch the trailer (had seen it long before, but forgotten practically everything) and went in 100% virgin. I can safely say that I came several times. The ending gave me multiple orgasms.
The acting was very, very good. I'm generally pretty critical of acting, but I thought Matt Damon (who I normally don't like) was great, Mark Whalberg was great, DiCaprio was excellent (generally a fan), and Nicholson was larger-than-life awesome. Alec Baldwin was hilarious, too. The supporting cast was strong - no complaints.
Very funny, too. The scene in the theatre had me laughing so hard.
How can you not love the ending?
They managed to kill all off all but two of characters that you see twice or more and have you BUY IT COMPLETELY. At least I did. It all fit very neatly and rather than scoff I instead dropped my jaw. For a good minute or two. I have to say I never saw Costigan being killed. I didn't see a successful arrest, either, but I definitely did not expect him to die. Seeing him there, dead in the elevator, gave me a moment of surrealness. People then continue to die and all I can think is, in terms of critical thinking, those deaths were the natural consequences of everything preceding. That is a great feeling when you can be so shocked by successive twists and not for one moment feel doubt.
I actually like that there is no moral or even much purpose to the ending. No one wins. The surviving characters do not survive for any particular reason. It's just a very well crafted crime thriller. The best I've ever seen. The ending is only hollywood in that it has a lot of 'action', but maybe succeeds in being much more anti-hollywood since Costigan was killed.
The 'baby storyline' adds an interesting accessory to the movie. In fact it may allow me to believe that Costigan in some sense 'won' (thinking about it now, Madolyn was probably going to tell Costigan that she was pregnant with his child, no?) and that Sullivan may have been gay (suggested at other times?) or, more believably, just inept given his complete inauthenticity. At any rate I don't think I would have wanted those relationships to work any other way. That is how I enjoyed the film; it worked for me. I suppose it is the same for those burnt on the changes from IA.
I actually like that there is no moral or even much purpose to the ending. No one wins. The surviving characters do not survive for any particular reason. It's just a very well crafted crime thriller. The best I've ever seen. The ending is only hollywood in that it has a lot of 'action', but maybe succeeds in being much more anti-hollywood since Costigan was killed.
The 'baby storyline' adds an interesting accessory to the movie. In fact it may allow me to believe that Costigan in some sense 'won' (thinking about it now, Madolyn was probably going to tell Costigan that she was pregnant with his child, no?) and that Sullivan may have been gay (suggested at other times?) or, more believably, just inept given his complete inauthenticity. At any rate I don't think I would have wanted those relationships to work any other way. That is how I enjoyed the film; it worked for me. I suppose it is the same for those burnt on the changes from IA.
AWESOME MOVIE. 10/10. Recommended.
Socreges said:I hope that doesn't deter the handful of elitist film buffs from taking my opinion seriously.
Why would it? This is a Scorsese film that has been extremely well received, by both elitists and the casual moviegoing public. Also, this thread is overwhelmingly positive, save for the odd person who liked IA better. You need only look at the Tomatometer, the incredible box office stability, or the film's meteoric rise on (the admittedly flawed and useless, but nevertheless) IMDb 250 to see that.
Personally, this the best film of the year to me (unless The Fountain or Children of Men outdo it).
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effzee said:
All the info on Sullivan being a rat, which probably also ordered Madolyn to contact Dignam to show him the papers and kill Sullivan in case Costigan didn't.
I said the exact same thing a week ago, but its holding true, so I will say it again. The Departed has the most amazing legs I have seen in a long time, and possibly the best I can ever remember seeing for a fall release movie. It dropped a mere 29% in it's second weekend, and 29% again in it's third weekend, and now it has dropped an amazing 26% in it's fourth weekend. It's also held onto #2 spot for the past 3 weeks despite several high profile new releases. It's satisfying to see Marty get some box office success recently.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2006&wknd=43&p=.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2006&wknd=43&p=.htm
CajoleJuice
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I was looking at the movie times for the local large theater near me this weekend (was thinking of seeing The Prestige) and The Departed is still getting a shitload of times. The only movie that had more showings was Saw II. The word of mouth is driving this movie. Everybody loves it.
Fashionably late to the party!
The Departed opened this week where I live, and I just got back from the theater a couple of hours.
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What a totally badass film, superior to IA in every way. I like how it was so different from IA, the feel and tone of the film is nothing like in IA...I pretty much forgot this was a remake. The way some characters god expanded and changed was just great. Maybe Scorsese was telling the truth when he said he never saw the original. Almost everyone was amazing in the film, especially DiCaprio and Nicholson(who delivered a ****ing unforgettable performance and so deserves another Oscar for it).
Oh and I loved TD's ending, liked it a lot better than either of IA's.
Scorsese FTW, the original just can't compare to this masterpiece. Movie of the year, easily.
The Departed opened this week where I live, and I just got back from the theater a couple of hours.
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What a totally badass film, superior to IA in every way. I like how it was so different from IA, the feel and tone of the film is nothing like in IA...I pretty much forgot this was a remake.
The way some characters god expanded and changed was just great. Maybe Scorsese was telling the truth when he said he never saw the original. Almost everyone was amazing in the film, especially DiCaprio and Nicholson(who delivered a ****ing unforgettable performance and so deserves another Oscar for it).Oh and I loved TD's ending, liked it a lot better than either of IA's.
I always thought IA's original ending was too "happy"(on the whole the film was a little preachy maybe), and the alternate one well was just plain crap. Matt Damon got what he deserved. And just like solo, Leo's death was shocking, despite seeing IA...heh!
Scorsese FTW, the original just can't compare to this masterpiece. Movie of the year, easily.
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Funny thing, I just got around to seeing Infernal Affairs (via Netflix) the other night. Overall, I'd say the ending is a lot more meaningful and better done. I'm not going back through the thread again, but I think somebody mentioned that
All that said, The Departed was still incredible (and much better), though.
Andy Lau's character having to live with what he's done is poignant, and I'd say a worse fate then just being killed off like Damon's character. In fact, it didn't seem like Damon even had much remorse for what he did, whereas Lau's pain made the ending. The whole 8th circle of hell thing, too.
All that said, The Departed was still incredible (and much better), though.
Sorry to drag an old thread out, but was trying to find some answers to the ending, heh. Just got around to seeing this film, and damn it better win some oscars. I thought Casino Royale was my favorite film of the year, not anymore!
I caught myself with my mouth wide open about three times that movie. First time that has happened in a while, last time that much was probably The Usual Suspects.
I caught myself with my mouth wide open about three times that movie. First time that has happened in a while, last time that much was probably The Usual Suspects.
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I saw this movie a few weeks ago and thought it was horrible compared to the original. I don't think I've ever been disappointed as much as I was when I walked out of this bizarrely miscast, over developed and artificially elongated, charisma-less excuse for a remake...
A ****ing romantic subplot that added absolutely NOTHING to the grand scheme of things in the movie? Wow...just wow...
See Infernal Affairs for a lesson in great film making.
A ****ing romantic subplot that added absolutely NOTHING to the grand scheme of things in the movie? Wow...just wow...
See Infernal Affairs for a lesson in great film making.
DigDugDirkDiggler said:
Maybe it wasn't meant to be a remake of the same film you wanted to see. As far as the romantic subplot, it gave the film's characters time to break out of the plot-action-plot structure and allowed for some character development. Dicaprio was especially good in his scenes - making the the end really hit hard. As far as the rest of your complaints, charisma-less, over developed, etc.. I don't share em or understand them.
lolololDigDugDirkDiggler said:
check out this AMAZING scene from infernal affairs:
SPOILER ALERT
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A46iAF30mXY
now that's great film making right there. black and white flashbacks, super cheesy "touching" emotional soap opera music, lol slowmotion, fantastic acting (especially from the dying guys lol)
Infernal Affairs is actually supposed to be one of the better Hong Kong movies in recent years with quintessentially the industry's two most renowned actors and it still sucks. But then again, Liu Dehua never could act and Liang Chaowei is overrated. The rest of the industry reeks of women who slept their way into productions and poser expatriates that would have never even gotten an audition in the West.Munin said:
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I realize I am in a tiny, tiny minority, but I thought The Departed was terrible. It is one of, no, it's the worst movie Scorsese has ever made. I think there's probably a four-hour version of the movie that might be pretty good, but as released, this was inexcusable dreck. The sloppy editing, the ham-handed symbolism, the go-nowhere subplots, a horrible actress, the terrible ad-libbed dialogue, nonsensical shifts in style, ridiculous plot devices, Nicholson's scattershot (if brilliant) acting, etc. I'm embarrassed that Scorsese will win an Oscar for this. I hate consolation awards, anyway. Give the acting award to Jeremy Irons for Dead Ringers, you pussies, don't wait around for Reversal of Fortune!
I haven't seen Infernal Affairs, and I know alot of people think that the original is better, but I've seen The Departed about 2 weeks ago, and I thought it was a very GOOD movie. The acting, the cast, the build-up, the twists, the ending.
This movie is really good, for a Hollywood movie. Go see it now!
This movie is really good, for a Hollywood movie. Go see it now!
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Kung Fu Jedi
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I saw the movie for the first time over the weekend, and enjoyed it quite a bit, but wasn't blown away by it like I thought I would be. I think Scorcese has made better films, as there was just something odd about the editing that I can't put my finger on, but sort of threw me off.
Still, good film, and I recommend it, just not sure why it's getting all the hype.
Still, good film, and I recommend it, just not sure why it's getting all the hype.
Cornballer said:
Awesome. Loved Baldwin in this, and especially that scene. I liked him more than Wahlberg in this.
KFJ: Im not sure what you find off about the editing. What I mean is, it was done by Scorsese's lifelong editor, Thelma Schoonmaker, so it should feel like "a Martin Scorsese film" in that sense.
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