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[Alidar]

Talk about putting a "spin" on something. :lol

I was joking. Well, mostly anyway. Still, it's very odd that the 360 achievements were the same as the PS3 in-game awards for the most part, then they patch trophy support with far easier requirements than the same game on another platform and the goals in the game itself?

I understand they're trying to make the game "more accessible" (the bike pack was so easy I finished it on the first day and haven't felt much of an urge to go back to it since), but it's weird and a little disappointing how simple some of the recent tasks added to the game are. I just don't get it. It's not like the in-game awards were all that hard or unbalanced in the first place...

 

[AlphaTwo00]

I was joking. Well, mostly anyway. Still, it's very odd that the 360 achievements were the same as the PS3 in-game awards for the most part, then they patch trophy support with far easier requirements than the same game on another platform and the goals in the game itself?

I understand they're trying to make the game "more accessible" (the bike pack was so easy I finished it on the first day and haven't felt much of an urge to go back to it since), but it's weird and a little disappointing how simple some of the recent tasks added to the game are. I just don't get it. It's not like the in-game awards were all that hard or unbalanced in the first place...

Well, the PS3's in game always had more, and slightly lower ones. MS does have that hard 50 achievement cap back then, and I think Criterion has always wanted to hand out more, at the lower levels of the game to encourage more play.

 

[burgerdog]

Has anybody else gotten the 4th bike yet? I hate not being able to choose a female driver for it

 

[AlphaTwo00]

Has anybody else gotten the 4th bike yet? I hate not being able to choose a female driver for it

Yes. I'm sure a lot us have. Yeah, it sucks, however, it does have the flags, which has been the hotly contested thing for the Criterion leaderboards.

GO GO TEAM CANADA.

 

[Darkpen]

It should be released Thursday, in line with the PSN version of the game.

oh, that's cool. Makes me wish I held back on my purchase

Its so much easier to just pick the game from the games list, than popping in the disc.

 

[Alidar]

Well, the PS3's in game always had more, and slightly lower ones. MS does have that hard 50 achievement cap back then, and I think Criterion has always wanted to hand out more, at the lower levels of the game to encourage more play.

Yeah, they had more due to not including any online awards. However, not all of them were easier ones - the 40x stunt multiplier is arguably the most difficult award in the game, and winning a marked man with the WTR isn't exactly a simple task either. The thing is that it just seems a little TOO skewed to the lower levels, as the requirements are greatly lower in some cases (such as needing 10 super jumps instead of all 50).

 

[Darkpen]

Yes. I'm sure a lot us have. Yeah, it sucks, however, it does have the flags, which has been the hotly contested thing for the Criterion leaderboards.

GO GO TEAM CANADA.

They really need to have flags for most major countries

 

[AndyD]

Yeah, they had more due to not including any online awards. However, not all of them were easier ones - the 40x stunt multiplier is arguably the most difficult award in the game, and winning a marked man with the WTR isn't exactly a simple task either. The thing is that it just seems a little TOO skewed to the lower levels, as the requirements are greatly lower in some cases (such as needing 10 super jumps instead of all 50).

The thing is they can track how many people have done what out of the player base. So if they feel that say 50% of players ought to get every trophy, then that tells you that the other 50% have played even less than the current trophy requirements.

I am sure if they requires 102%, then only a couple hundred people would ever get the platinum trophy. Much like Warhawk where general requires some 1000 hours of game time, whereas something like Uncharted can be done in a week. Right now Warhawk has a couple hundred generals out of at least a hundred thousand players... a .002 Platinum trophy rate. I think a rate of 15-25% is reasonable for any game.

They have to have a sense of consistency and award, without making the game a chore. And I don't mean not playing the game, because an A license will require a good bit of time. But without a retry option... a lot of people get disenchanted when they bring it down to the last few road rules or races and stop playing.

On a side note, how do I change the time of day in a SP game? Is it even possible, or do I have to sit around until night time?

 

[Volcynika]

The thing is they can track how many people have done what out of the player base. So if they feel that say 50% of players ought to get every trophy, then that tells you that the other 50% have played even less than the current trophy requirements.

I am sure if they requires 102%, then only a couple hundred people would ever get the platinum trophy. Much like Warhawk where general requires some 1000 hours of game time, whereas something like Uncharted can be done in a week. Right now Warhawk has a couple hundred generals out of at least a hundred thousand players... a .002 Platinum trophy rate. I think a rate of 15-25% is reasonable for any game.

They have to have a sense of consistency and award, without making the game a chore. And I don't mean not playing the game, because an A license will require a good bit of time. But without a retry option... a lot of people get disenchanted when they bring it down to the last few road rules or races and stop playing.

On a side note, how do I change the time of day in a SP game? Is it even possible, or do I have to sit around until night time?

Go through the menus on single player offline, one of the choices is Time Of Day.

 

[Anton668]

PS3 Trophy list from http://www.ps3trophies.org/game/burnout-paradise/trophies/:

List goes here

That has got to be the lamest list ever. I thought trophies were awarded for skill. Drive through a repair shop? Smash 3 billboards? Hell, they might as well give you one for successfully loading the game up.

 

[Roxas]

Mostly the same as the in game achievments.

64/64 for me

 

[AlphaTwo00]

They really need to have flags for most major countries

It's a cap carried from their leaderboard setup. For the longest time, Canada wasn't even up there.

They did a tournament, and eventually, the top 10? scoring country teams got leaderboard rep.

 

[Stormwatch]

For anyone having trouble with a corrupted download I was able to fix it by playing the game for a couple minutes (after getting the error message) and then turned the system off and on and it worked again.

 

[EktorPR]

Has anybody else gotten the 4th bike yet? I hate not being able to choose a female driver for it

How many times I have to say that YES, you CAN choose a female driver for it! (unless you're playing the 360 version and there's a difference there)

 

[jax (old)]

Hell, they might as well give you one for successfully loading the game up.

yes please.

 

[Angst]

Any word yet if the PSN version will be up in EU this thursday as well?

 

[h3ro]

Any word yet if the PSN version will be up in EU this thursday as well?

No reason it shouldn't be... With Criterion being based in Europe, I think they would have specified if it would be releasing at different times in the different regions...

Also, got my 101% in the bikes last night...

 

[Anton668]

How many times I have to say that YES, you CAN choose a female driver for it! (unless you're playing the 360 version and there's a difference there)

Care to elaborate on how to get a female driver on the GP Competition?

 

[BuRT!]

Bought the game today on 360. Do people still actively play online? heh, gamertag is 'el burto' if anyone care to add me!

 

[Jedeye Sniv]

The online for this game is surprisingly great actually, was busy all the way up to the bikes patch, now it's really kicking.

 

[Steroyd]

Also, got my 101% in the bikes last night...

One hundred and one percent?

 

[Mar]

How many times I have to say that YES, you CAN choose a female driver for it! (unless you're playing the 360 version and there's a difference there)

You can't on the 360 version. Unless there's some super secret hidden menu somewhere.

That's fucking weird.

 

[Canti]

Got 101% on PS3 version with bikes, I can't select female rider on the GP either.

 

[Anton668]

One hundred and one percent?

yup.

Then you finish all the online challenges and get 102% (unofficially)

 

[AlphaTwo00]

Bought the game today on 360. Do people still actively play online? heh, gamertag is 'el burto' if anyone care to add me!

Online is still very active, however, it seems to be much harder to get good rooms where people actually want to do races or challenges.

 

[Volcynika]

100% the bikes, but now I have to do all that other stuff to get 101%! Woo!

 

[chriskun]

if anyone needs anybody to finish challenges with the bikes or cars send me an invite, gt is dukeofrock. I'm on right now.

 

[Volcynika]

Ah. I promised myself I'd finish and get a Burnout license before midnight tonight (US Central Time) and I did it! Now that I see I have to do a huuuuuuuge amount of stuff for the Elite, I hope to finish it by.........2009. :lol

 

[guggnichso]

Trophy Patch online in EU, 35MB

 

[Android18a]

Are the trophies retrospective, or will I have to do all that stuff again? Considering the billboards stay smashed, and yellow barriers disappear, I'm assuming they'll be retrospective...

 

[guggnichso]

They SAID trophies would be retroactive, but they aren't.

They fucking aren't. That or I have a bug or something.

EDIT: They most definitely are not retroactive. Buddys from my List have the game nearly 100% completed and didn't get anything too.

Fucking criterion lying to us, now I can delete my save and start from the beginning.

 

[Sean]

You can't on the 360 version. Unless there's some super secret hidden menu somewhere.

That's fucking weird.

You can... it's right on the vehicle selection screen, when you choose a bike there's an option for male or female driver (above the color customization options).

 

[borsdy]

Aw fuck, they aren't retroactive? gg :[

 

[guggnichso]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008...urnout-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-77737

Here a reminder of what they said when they announced trophies:

"* Trophies will be retroactive, so, if you’ve achieved something today, the day the update arrives (not Cagney, we want to emphasise) that will be reflected in your Trophies."

(

 

[riazor69]

Trophies are not going to be retroactive. See post below:

http://www.criteriongames.com/article.php?artID=350

"Burnout Paradise saves are locked to your profile. We had hoped to use this to retroactively award trophies, but we discovered during testing that this is not possible. You will therefore require a fresh game-save to receive trophies in Burnout Paradise. If you're familiar with PS3 trophies already, you'll recognise that this works in the same way as all other games that have added trophy support post-release."


Pity.

 

[Anton668]

Trophies are not going to be retroactive. See post below:

http://www.criteriongames.com/article.php?artID=350

"Burnout Paradise saves are locked to your profile. We had hoped to use this to retroactively award trophies, but we discovered during testing that this is not possible. You will therefore require a fresh game-save to receive trophies in Burnout Paradise. If you're familiar with PS3 trophies already, you'll recognise that this works in the same way as all other games that have added trophy support post-release."

not fucking funny criterion!

 

[rainking187]

Suck balls Criterion. I started playing the game again because they said repeatedly trophies would be retroactive. Now I've got to delete all my stuff and start over? They obviously knew this wasn't going to work some time before the update went live, thanks for the warning.

 

[maxax]

I put fucking 80 hours into this game to get everything, now I have to do it again? It wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't promise retroactivity from the start.

 

[rainking187]

If you think about it maybe that's why the trophies are so ridiculously easy.

 

[Anton668]

It wouldnt have been so bad if they would have told us beforehand! Not after release.

WTF?!?!?!

 

[neorej]

OK, no Burnout-trophies for me then. Fuck this, I'm not doing my entire career all over again just for trophies, just like I didn't go through Uncharted all over again just for trophies.

 

[Mar]

You can... it's right on the vehicle selection screen, when you choose a bike there's an option for male or female driver (above the color customization options).

Not for the last bike you unlock.

I think this is where the confusion comes up. People read this and think everyone's talking about any of the first three bikes. So once again. The very last bike you unlock, at 100%, has no female rider.

 

[TTP]

WTF. A fresh save file to get trophies? FUCK THAT

 

[Canti]

Gah @ the patch. Could use my existing save file to get some trophies (the bronze things like repair your car, drive 500 yards on wrong side of road), but without retroactivity I can't reachieve some of the goals to get trophies! I mean, if I was on 99% on bikes and then reached 100% today, pretty sure it'd give you the trophy... but if you already have 100% before the patch? Screwed. That goes for about 2/3rds of the games trophies ~_~ Doubt I'll restart.

 

[TTP]

Gah @ the patch. Could use my existing save file to get some trophies (the bronze things like repair your car, drive 500 yards on wrong side of road), but without retroactivity I can't reachieve some of the goals to get trophies! I mean, if I was on 99% on bikes and then reached 100% today, pretty sure it'd give you the trophy... but if you already have 100% before the patch? Screwed. That goes for about 2/3rds of the games trophies ~_~ Doubt I'll restart.

Well, look at the trophies list. They dont mirror all the in game awards one. For example, there is no Elite license trophy. Only Burnout (Gold). So you better copy your save somewhere, do the trophy thing, and put it back.

PS: My kid just unlocked a couple of trophies :lol I'll let him play for a while

 

[slaughterking]

Uhg, so the 80 hours I put into the game are worth nothing? Well, except for the huge fun I had with the game. :0

 

[Cardon]

This news is an absolute punch to the gut to me but at least I have Wipeout HD to turn my frown upside down.

 

[Always-honest]

Trophies are not going to be retroactive. See post below:

http://www.criteriongames.com/article.php?artID=350

"Burnout Paradise saves are locked to your profile. We had hoped to use this to retroactively award trophies, but we discovered during testing that this is not possible. You will therefore require a fresh game-save to receive trophies in Burnout Paradise. If you're familiar with PS3 trophies already, you'll recognise that this works in the same way as all other games that have added trophy support post-release."


Pity.

i will not start a fresh game. fuck that

 

[Wurm]

Bullshit! Also their excuse that "all other" Trophies are like that is a lie. The Mainichi Issho trophies checked you save after viewing one News Item, and awarded the rest of the trophies you'd retroactively earned.

Would have been a simple case of having the trophies match the 'Awards' list, then maybe one easy extra one to trigger the game searching your awards list to them.

Fucking disappointed with Criterion over this.

 

[Lince]

You will therefore require a fresh game-save to receive trophies in Burnout Paradise

I bought the game this morning and played for a while (just before the trophies patch went live) and then rebooted when I knew of the update, since then I've achieved some trophies so I'm not sure of the fresh game-save thing.