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[Lucius86]

What about:

The Official Formula 1 2011 Thread of Vettel Fingering the Competition

Approve.

 

[mclaren777]

Mercedes-Benz World @ Brooklands

 

[Chris R]

Damn that looks cool. They should use a thinner wire though so it looks like it is hovering.

 

[navanman]

What about:

The Official Formula 1 2011 Thread of Vettel Fingering the Competition

We have a winner!

 

[Goldrusher]

lolbernie

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They should install sprinklers at the Hungaroring. Set them on a random timer. This tracks needs it badly.

They should use it on all tracks...the best way to make F1 interesting again.

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maybe the FIA should order 3 wet races a year, turns the sprinkler systems on at random intervals, it makes for great racing.

:lol That would be awesome :lol

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:lol
They should add random sprinklers to F1 tracks, water makes everything much more exciting!
 

i hope they change the rules to require sprinklers on all tracks.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Bernie/the FIA needs to mandate a minimum of 5 (or 25% as of next year) of races to be wet. If the weather doesn't do the trick, install sprinkler systems.

 

[Leunam]

lmao

But in my defense, I wasn't part of GAF or even into F1 back then. I stand by my opinion that adding sprinklers is far too artificial. Doesn't help that Pirelli showed some support for Bernie on this one.

 

[Ark]

Bernie isn't really serious about adding sprinkler systems, he's just getting his dose of crazy media fix.

Although adding a few sprinklers at one corner on a track would sure spice things up .

Croatian F1 track plan looks alot like Austin:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/03/04/f1-track-plan-croatia-lot-austin/

But it's a Tilke track, so it'll probably suck. At least the Silverstone guys did a good job imo.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

I would probably have to quit watching F1 if they artificially added rain. Thankfully it will never happen.

 

[DrM]

Croatian F1 track plan looks alot like Austin:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/03/04/f1-track-plan-croatia-lot-austin/

But it's a Tilke track, so it'll probably suck. At least the Silverstone guys did a good job imo.

Looking good, but getting funds for construction in this times is another story.

 

[Lucius86]

-snip-

Someone has a good memory!

 

[Articate]

Bernie isn't really serious about adding sprinkler systems, he's just getting his dose of crazy media fix.

Although adding a few sprinklers at one corner on a track would sure spice things up .

Croatian F1 track plan looks alot like Austin:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/03/04/f1-track-plan-croatia-lot-austin/

But it's a Tilke track, so it'll probably suck. At least the Silverstone guys did a good job imo.

Can we replace Tilke? Algorithmical approaches to make fun circuits never work. Stop with the ridiculous straights and the square corners.

 

[WorriedCitizen]

Looks like he recycled the Austin track for this one.

 

[Shaneus]

Bernie isn't really serious about adding sprinkler systems, he's just getting his dose of crazy media fix.

Although adding a few sprinklers at one corner on a track would sure spice things up .

Croatian F1 track plan looks alot like Austin:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/03/04/f1-track-plan-croatia-lot-austin/

But it's a Tilke track, so it'll probably suck. At least the Silverstone guys did a good job imo.

I'm not a track expert or anything, but I'll be fucked if that doesn't look as boring as half the other tracks created in the last 4-5 years. Nothing sets that apart. At all.

Ugh.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

That was beautiful, Goldrusher.

 

[Stop It]

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I have been nothing if not consistent, and I agree with Bernie, install sprinker systems, and have random computer generated rain showers. Tradionalists bitch all the time (See, Cricket, Snooker, Football etc) so you can't please them all, but I will say this:

Rain makes the racing more exciting, if the rain doesn't come to F1, then let the power of the short one make it rain.

 

[S. L.]

I have been nothing if not consistent, and I agree with Bernie, install sprinker systems, and have random computer generated rain showers. Tradionalists bitch all the time (See, Cricket, Snooker, Football etc) so you can't please them all, but I will say this:

Rain makes the racing more exciting, if the rain doesn't come to F1, then let the power of the short one make it rain.

yes and no,
the main difference during rain is how the tyres behave. (a lot) less grip and less penalty for not driving on the ideal line.
pirelli just has to emulate that with their tyres, no need for actual sprinklers

 

[Articate]

yes and no,
the main difference during rain is how the tyres behave. (a lot) less grip and less penalty for not driving on the ideal line.
pirelli just has to emulate that with their tyres, no need for actual sprinklers

Yup. These new tyres are INCREDIBLY soft. They have insane grip but deteriorate. It's by no means impossible to make tyres that fall apart as quickly but have 30% of the grip. This is, as seen around the internet, one of the biggest arguments on how to make racing more fun. And I agree.

 

[Lucius86]

Yup. These new tyres are INCREDIBLY soft. They have insane grip but deteriorate. It's by no means impossible to make tyres that fall apart as quickly but have 30% of the grip. This is, as seen around the internet, one of the biggest arguments on how to make racing more fun. And I agree.

This is what I am looking forward to most. Tyres that actually degrade. 2-3 pit stops per race will make races a heck of a lot more exciting in theory.

 

[Seanspeed]

I'm not a track expert or anything, but I'll be fucked if that doesn't look as boring as half the other tracks created in the last 4-5 years. Nothing sets that apart. At all.

Ugh.

While I agree there's nothing spectacularly innovative about it, and it does look VERY much like the Austin track layout, its still got a lot going on with it. Instead of just looking at the layout as a whole and making a quick judgement, you've gotta dissect it and imagine driving it. Follow along with your cursor as you read if it helps.

So you're going down the pit straight and have to come into a fairly hard braking, 90 degree left. Does seem a bit boring so far.

Decent length straight follows and suddenly you're into a quick left/right 'S' section. There's probably a bit of braking involved going into here given the radius of the corner and the arrival speed, but probably not much. The second part of the 'S' will likely be near-full throttle(if not fully) so you'll be carrying a good amount of speed out into the next section. Much better at this point.

The track veers right slightly before a quick left-hander and then to a quick constant-radius right. The next part looks tricky, as you'll have to thread your way through a left/right section with quick changes in direction.

You'll likely take the next two left-handers flat-out, but the third one you'll be arriving at with good speed and considering you're about to hit a braking zone, you're likely to see a bit of braking going on here. Either way, its gonna be a quick corner that rewards a bit of ball-z-ness.

Tight left-hand corner leads onto the long back straight. Hard-braking zone at the end is probably the only realistic overtaking spot on the track. Into a tight left, and then onto a triple-apex right hander that looks like a bit of fun. Not as quick as Turkey's Turn 8, but multiple-apex corners are usually always good stuff. Coming out of the last apex, there's a quick blast to a fast left-hander with possibly nothing more than a lift needed here.

And then a small straight that leads into the last corner, another 90 degree left, taking you onto the pit straight.

I mean, really apart from the first and last corners, it looks like a solid and fun track to drive. And despite it being very similar to Austin's layout on first glance, it could still feel very different to drive, especially since we dont know the topography of the track.

And one other overlooked positive of it - NO CHICANES. I think that deserves mentioning.

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

So you're going down the pit straight and have to come into a fairly hard braking, 90 degree left. Does seem a bit boring so far.

From the placement of the gravel traps, I'd say it's a clockwise circuit.

 

[Seanspeed]

From the placement of the gravel traps, I'd say it's a clockwise circuit.

D'oh! The similarities to the Austin layout getting to me, I guess! lol

 

[Articate]

Korea, India, Croatia, Austin, Abu Dhabi. All tracks look the same. They all have that look of Silence from F-Zero on the SNES. You know:

 

[AndyD]

My biggest complaint with these tracks is that unlike old school classics that take a fantastic location and build a track around that location, the geographical features, the hills, the curves, modern abominations are designed in a lab on a computer, then they go out and reshape the landscape to accommodate a cookie cutter design.

Not every track needs a mile long straight, several 90 degree turns and a series of of hairpins. Make them make sense in the environment and they would be far more attractive in my opinion.

 

[Zaphod]

Ferrari F150° Italia

Never doubt the ability of an F1 team to interpret the rules in their favor.

Ferrari grudgingly obliged FoMoCo, and changed the car's name to the Ferrari F150th Italia. Ford liked that, and declared the matter settled. Ferrari, however wasn't done. Still galled that they had to change the name of the racer in the first place, they decided to make one final change to get it just the way they want it.

Now, Ferrari's 2011 Formula 1 effort will be called the Ferrari F150° Italia. The added symbol is the Italian equivalent of the English "th" suffix, and Ferrari added it to give the name more Italian flair. Maranello announced the move in a biting, sarcastic news release saying, "...Therefore the name will now read as the Ferrari 150° Italia, which should make it clear even to the thickest of people that the name of the car is a tribute to the anniversary of the unification of our country.

 

[Diablohead]

Looking forward to the new season.

Last year a bunch of you were doing/playing some formula 1 table game with the race results, what was it? i'm interested for this year.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Korea, India, Croatia, Austin, Abu Dhabi. All tracks look the same. They all have that look of Silence from F-Zero on the SNES. You know:

Turbos, jumps, mines... looks like something Bernie would approve of for sure. Needs more sprinklers, though.

 

[Dead Man]

What about:

The Official Formula 1 2011 Thread of Vettel Fingering the Competition

Winner.

 

[modulaire]

They should add random sprinklers to F1 tracks, water makes everything much more exciting!

)

I get where he's coming from though. With rain the tracks would be clean, and the drivers would be able to use more parts of the track and not just drive behind each other on a narrow clean line.

 

[Diablohead]

Oh yeah I should say that I stuck some betting money on McLaren the other day, reading this thread now I dread what I have done lol.

 

[Psychotext]

On a related note, Circuit Paul Ricard has sprinklers built into it, and also uses a few other experimental technologies.

http://www.circuitpaulricard.com/details-p-156.html

 

[Orgun]

Nicked from rllmuk

 

[S. L.]

looks like something to measure the wing flex

 

[Cereal KiIIer]

 

[navanman]

looks like something to measure the wing flex

Correct. The current speculation by those in the know is that they are manually flexing the wing using the hydraulic lines. They can then measure the results and build a flex wing to those specs.

According to the rules, this is only allowed during off-season testing. RBR used the same setup last year.

 

[Wes]

This year I'll be more prepared for the fantasy league...

 

[Deadman]

Perez's fastest time in testing today would have put him 5th on the grid last year.

Thats assuming the car is up to weight restrictions, it was obviously a glory run so maybe they ran it too light.

 

[S. L.]

Perez's fastest time in testing today would have put him 5th on the grid last year.

Thats assuming the car is up to weight restrictions, it was obviously a glory run so maybe they ran it too light.

time doesn't count. he cut the chicane

 

[Deadman]

time doesn't count. he cut the chicane

fail

 

[Articate]

Oh. Mercedes is running Saturday instead. Yay.

 

[Lucius86]

I liked the BBC live feed on practice today, I think it summarized a lot of people's views on the sprinkler system old Bernie wants to introduce....

Jon Webb in Tunbridge Wells via text: "Here's another idea for Bernie: how about sections of the track crossing over one another? Worked wonders on my Scalextric* track."
* other electronic car racing games are available

mwhitcombe on Twitter: "'Force India have been told by Paul di Resta that it is raining at Turn One.' Confirmed: Bernie's down there with a watering can."

Matt via text: "Bernie's missed a trick. He could get the public to text in votes as to when (or if) it should rain! If you're reading this Bernie, I want a cut... "

Rachie_D_18 on Twitter: "Maybe they should race in bin lorries, seems to be all the rage."

Erik in Edinburgh via text: "Road works section that appears overnight between qualifying and the race with nobody working on the road works and an average speed camera."

Jonathan in Belfast via text: "I think the idea of racing bin lorries would be a load of rubbish and fake rain would only put a damper on F1 as a whole.

Lewis, very bored at work in Birmingham, via text: "Apparently Bernie wants to use an ice cream van as the safety car. Would come in handy in some of the hotter countries."

Mark from Titchfield via text: "I think the drivers should be presented with a different Top Gear challenge each race before the parade lap."

jambohazell on Twitter: "New idea for Bernie Ecclestone - when a buzzer is pressed randomly during race all drivers must swap positions with their team-mate."

Roger Spencelayh on Twitter: "Another idea for Bernie - Night race at Sepang, and the lights go off at random intervals."

jameswrees on Twitter: "Yet another idea for Bernie: Racing with variable speed limits depending on volume of traffic - a la the M40."

Matt, London via text: "Bernie could go the whole hog and allow teams the full range of Mario Kart weapons, like three spinning heat seeking red turtle shells, mushrooms to make the cars faster or lightning bolts that make the front-running cars half size."

 

[AndyD]

I liked the BBC live feed on practice today, I think it summarized a lot of people's views on the sprinkler system old Bernie wants to introduce....

IS there a good list of twitter accounts to follow? I follow webber, but that's it.

 

[Lucius86]

Not that I have found, but I follow the official Force India, Lotus and McLaren tweets, heikki, Webber, Jenson Button (although all he ever talks about is his training), Martin Brundle and Jake Humphrey. I want to find more myself.

 

[Articate]

jambohazell on Twitter: "New idea for Bernie Ecclestone - when a buzzer is pressed randomly during race all drivers must swap positions with their team-mate."

Haha.
CHANGE PLACES

 

[Leunam]

I follow Nico Rosberg also. Last thing he tweeted about was some photoshoot in Monaco (haha) but he also had stuff like his custom bike for training and some really cool pictures of him and Keke doing rallies in the snow.

 

[AndyD]

Can you guys post the tags you follow?

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Bernie with a watering can is a beautiful mental image.

 

[S. L.]

i did my math and my f1racemanager team for the first race is standing unless there are some big surprises in the Australian practice sessions


(super secret of course, but i doubt i will be the only one with this setup)

 

[AndyD]

i did my math and my f1racemanager team for the first race is standing unless there are some big surprises in the Australian practice sessions


(super secret of course, but i doubt i will be the only one with this setup)

I did a setup as well but I am waiting for the end of the practices to see if I change anything. But I am not shy about saying what it is. I picked Force India and Total gas with two lowly drivers.

I also assume many others will be on a similar or identical setup. The interesting thing will be to see how many races I hold off for before starting to move my team around. Last year I mistakenly made too many changes and lost a lot in comission that way.

 

[navanman]

Pic of the RBR front flexy wing.

Their pace so far is scary, I'm expecting a McLaren 99 style domination in Melbourne.

 

[Templar Wizard]

will we see a typical webber brain stroke in Melbourne this year? or could he actually win his home gp? (without Demo Derbying)