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The Official Left 4 Dead Thread

Red Scarlet

Red Scarlet

Member
No way man, Crash Course was superawesome. You missed a great game.


When it DOES come up, and Botolf and the others play it w/ me, I plan on recording it for lol's later on.
 
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Volcynika

Member
I'm gonna explain this so eeeeeeeeeeeveryone can understand. (First I don't care about the 360 version)

Poster asks on Monday when it's coming
I say '2morrow' (Tuesday) at 11:59PM PST (the time part was a joke)
THATS THE END OF TUESDAY WHICH IS RIGHT BEFORE WEDNESDAY LAST POSSIBLE TIME VALVE CAN DO IT BASED ON THEIR TIMEZONE
I'll fight you all!
 
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MrDaravon

Member
Nabs said:
@majornelson: Crash Course was priced incorrectly. Should be 560MSP. So hold off until you see that price before you purchase

(sorry for the twitter quote)
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Ugh, I just woke up and was still so asleep I didn't even notice I paid 800 for it -_-. I saw Shake Appeal was already on it as well, so I wonder what his excuse was :lol . Annoyed, but I wonder what they'll do (if anything) for people who bought it at 800, since I'm sure there's a chunk of people who probably honestly don't know any better.
 
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Shake Appeal

Member
SailorDaravon said:
Ugh, I just woke up and was still so asleep I didn't even notice I paid 800 for it -_-. I saw Shake Appeal was already on it as well, so I wonder what his excuse was :lol . Annoyed, but I wonder what they'll do (if anything) for people who bought it at 800, since I'm sure there's a chunk of people who probably honestly don't know any better.
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My excuse is I'm a baller..

Also, I had 1700 points, so no matter what the price, it was going to eat below the sweet spot of 1200 for a big XBLA game.
 
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Shake Appeal

Member
Anyway, played it, it's good. Short, of course, because it's not a full campaign, but both the maps that are there are of a decent length. Still a lot of blocked off rooftops for hunter pounces, but in general there are more infected ladders than ever before, and it really does seem they've designed it for versus play.

Missed out on the 25 point pounce achievement, though. I got a 24. >_<
 
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MrDaravon

Member
Oh my fucking GOD, has anyone else played this with bots Campaign? The AI is FUCKED. I just tied on motherfucking NORMAL because the AI never did anything to help me at all, and they kept completely running off around corners and bailing on me. I had a witch on me, no other enemies of any type anywhere, and they completed bailed, then I just died on the finale because they completely bailed on me again, were literally doing absolutely nothing to help me and then run off. When I went down they would come back, pick me up, then completely run off again. This whole time I'm next to the generator I need to be re-starting, so it's not like I'm off in the middle of nowhere, and even if I was that's never mattered before. I am so fucking pissed off right now, I just wanted to check out the levels casually on normal to see what they looked like before I ran some errands.
 
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Volcynika

Member
SailorDaravon said:
Oh my fucking GOD, has anyone else played this with bots Campaign? The AI is FUCKED. I just tied on motherfucking NORMAL because the AI never did anything to help me at all, and they kept completely running off around corners and bailing on me. I had a witch on me, no other enemies of any type anywhere, and they completed bailed, then I just died on the finale because they completely bailed on me again, were literally doing absolutely nothing to help me and then run off. When I went down they would come back, pick me up, then completely run off again. This whole time I'm next to the generator I need to be re-starting, so it's not like I'm off in the middle of nowhere, and even if I was that's never mattered before. I am so fucking pissed off right now, I just wanted to check out the levels casually on normal to see what they looked like before I ran some errands.
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Sounds like you were....left 4 dead.

/caruso
 
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Majora

Member
SailorDaravon said:
Oh my fucking GOD, has anyone else played this with bots Campaign? The AI is FUCKED. I just tied on motherfucking NORMAL because the AI never did anything to help me at all, and they kept completely running off around corners and bailing on me. I had a witch on me, no other enemies of any type anywhere, and they completed bailed, then I just died on the finale because they completely bailed on me again, were literally doing absolutely nothing to help me and then run off. When I went down they would come back, pick me up, then completely run off again. This whole time I'm next to the generator I need to be re-starting, so it's not like I'm off in the middle of nowhere, and even if I was that's never mattered before. I am so fucking pissed off right now, I just wanted to check out the levels casually on normal to see what they looked like before I ran some errands.
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Valve are just trying to make it more like playing with real people :p
 
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Blizzard

Banned
Shake Appeal said:
Anyway, played it, it's good. Short, of course, because it's not a full campaign, but both the maps that are there are of a decent length. Still a lot of blocked off rooftops for hunter pounces, but in general there are more infected ladders than ever before, and it really does seem they've designed it for versus play.

Missed out on the 25 point pounce achievement, though. I got a 24. >_<
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WHYYYYY do they do this. It's hard enough to follow survivors on roofs and get 25-damage pounces as is, without them blocking the roof off with invisible walls so you fall and get shot. I guess it's all so they don't have to worry about long sight distances or something?
 
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Majora

Member
Yeah just played Crash Course in campaign. Decent sized levels, nothing terribly exciting in there but it's always good to play more Left 4 Dead on maps you don't know like the back of your hand. Not tried it in versus yet which is where the bread and butter will be but I think it should stack up fairly well because the areas are quite open, not the frustrating-for-the-infected type corridors of NM4 or DA4 for instance.

It'll be L4D2 that really shakes things up with improved cresendo events, new infected, more tangibly different locales etc, but this is a welcome stopgap.
 
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VGChampion

Member
Blizzard said:
WHYYYYY do they do this. It's hard enough to follow survivors on roofs and get 25-damage pounces as is, without them blocking the roof off with invisible walls so you fall and get shot. I guess it's all so they don't have to worry about long sight distances or something?
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This bothers me as well. It would be so nice to jump from building to building on Death Toll. If they are afraid of cheap 25 hit pounces being an issue, they should redesign the level a little differently. Maybe put an overhang or something. I just wanna be free. :lol
 
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MidnightRider

Banned
I downloaded it before I came into work. God I can't wait to get out of here and play the hell out of it.

I hadn't really played the versus mode very much though. :(
 
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MidnightRider

Banned
SailorDaravon said:
Oh my fucking GOD, has anyone else played this with bots Campaign? The AI is FUCKED. I just tied on motherfucking NORMAL because the AI never did anything to help me at all, and they kept completely running off around corners and bailing on me. I had a witch on me, no other enemies of any type anywhere, and they completed bailed, then I just died on the finale because they completely bailed on me again, were literally doing absolutely nothing to help me and then run off. When I went down they would come back, pick me up, then completely run off again. This whole time I'm next to the generator I need to be re-starting, so it's not like I'm off in the middle of nowhere, and even if I was that's never mattered before. I am so fucking pissed off right now, I just wanted to check out the levels casually on normal to see what they looked like before I ran some errands.
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Shoot them at the start. You don't need them anyway! :lol
 
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Shake Appeal

Member
VGChampion said:
This bothers me as well. It would be so nice to jump from building to building on Death Toll. If they are afraid of cheap 25 hit pounces being an issue, they should redesign the level a little differently. Maybe put an overhang or something. I just wanna be free. :lol
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I believe it's more to do with the way the Source engine works. I read a complicated explanation of it once, about what can be in view at any given time, but I'm damned if I could find it now.
 
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CultureClearance

Banned
VGChampion said:
This bothers me as well. It would be so nice to jump from building to building on Death Toll. If they are afraid of cheap 25 hit pounces being an issue, they should redesign the level a little differently. Maybe put an overhang or something. I just wanna be free. :lol
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Opening up those places would involve them actually spending significant time on editing the maps for versus mode...and that's not gonna happen when they have their hands full. That's why the 2 "new" versus maps came out with the same problem all over the place while the initial 2 maps didn't.

And I wouldn't keep your hopes up for l4d2 maps not having the same issue. I foresee less 3-dimensionality in the maps in order to push out those 5 campaigns in 1 year while working on everything else in order for the game to be released in time. Also, you might notice that the 3 new infected aren't really as height-dependent as the hunter or smoker. Most of them appear to be designed to get "in yo face." Less reliance on pouncing and smoking = less need for height. But you never know. Miracles can happen.
 
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MidnightRider

Banned
SailorDaravon said:
I'm also still annoyed that Nothing Special is the last achievement I'm missing, and I doubt I'll ever get it -_-
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Wow I have a lot I need. LOTS.

don't even remember. let me go take a look.

I am sure I need help on a few of them.
 
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MidnightRider

Banned
Here are the ones I don't have and of course I still need all the ones from Crash Course as I haven't played it yet :(


Wipefest
Your team incapacitates three Survivors within five seconds in the Crash Course campaign.

Untouchables
No Survivors take damage after contacting the rescue vehicle.

Do Not Disturb
Sneak past all Witches in a campaign without disturbing one.

Man vs Tank
Single-handedly kill a Tank.

Safety First
Play an entire campaign with no Survivors taking friendly fire damage.

Unbreakable
Finish a campaign without ever being healed.

Red Mist
Kill 1000 Infected with a mounted machine gun.

Zombie Genocidest
Kill 53,595 Infected.

Zombicidal Maniac
Survive any campaign on Expert.

What Are You Trying to Prove?
Survive all campaigns on Expert.

Nothing Special
Survive a campaign with no Survivors taking damage from Special Infected.

Stomach Upset
All Survivors complete a campaign without being vomited on.

Chain Smoker
Constrict two Survivors in one life as a Smoker.

Barf Bagged
Cover four Survivors with Boomer bile at once.

Double Jump
Pounce two different Survivors in one life as a Hunter.

All 4 Dead
Kill all four Survivors in one life while playing as a Tank.

Dead Wreckening
Dole out 5000 total Survivor damage as a Special Infected.

Lamb 2 Slaughter
As an Infected, incap a Survivor who has entered and left a safe room.
 
McHuj

McHuj

Member
hey guys, i have a question about l4d multiplayer and steam?

how's the matchmaking on steam/joining games, i'm think about picking up l4d2 when it comes out, but of my immediate friends, i'm going to be the only who plays this. do you really need to coordinate matches or are there random games constantly popping up.

how easy is to join/play online games? my only mp experiences have been battlenet for wc3 or limited xbox live. i'll be playing on pc.
 
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Turfster

Member
MidnightRider said:
Man vs Tank
Single-handedly kill a Tank.
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This one's pretty easy if you play with 3 other people you know, you just confirm in advance the others won't shoot it, then shoot the hell out of it/light it on fire, shoot it a few times and run until it dies. It's impossible with bots or random internet people tho ;)

Most of the infected ones aren't all that difficult, just takes some luck and knowing where to position yourself in a map.
 
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Volcynika

Member
Facism said:
how do i get steam to download this?
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If you have it set to auto update, it will get it when it's available. If it's not doing that and you KNOW its up, just either start the application (it'll check for updates and download them first before running the game) or restart Steam.
 
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Turfster

Member
MidnightRider said:
Won't the tank whoop my ass then?
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Always keep moving away from it (linked to this is "don't let anything behind you live that might slow you down while running away from the tank") and make sure you start with decent green health, otherwise it'll catch up to you and make hamburgers out of you :D
 
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MidnightRider

Banned
Turfster said:
Always keep moving away from it (linked to this is "don't let anything behind you live that might slow you down while running away from the tank") and make sure you start with decent green health, otherwise it'll catch up to you and make hamburgers out of you :D
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I will try this when I get home for sure. I am going to see what that x360a website says about the achievement.
 
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Songbird

Prodigal Son
MidnightRider said:
Want to add me?

OBSJiesen

on XBOXlive.

I haven't really played versus very much so I won't be much of a help.
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Thanks for the offer, but I don't have the funds to buy the Xbox version just yet, I'm waiting on the Steam download. Friend listed for sure.
 
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VGChampion

Member
CultureClearance said:
Opening up those places would involve them actually spending significant time on editing the maps for versus mode...and that's not gonna happen when they have their hands full. That's why the 2 "new" versus maps came out with the same problem all over the place while the initial 2 maps didn't.
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Yeah, I understood why Death Toll was the way it is but hearing Crash Course is the same is a little disheartening. I feel with a smaller campaign, they could have done more. This is just based on what I've read though. I don't have L4D on the 360 so I haven't experienced it for myself. I'm sure I'll like it anyway though. Death Toll is one of my favorites even though the town is tough for hunters after the initial church jump. :lol
 
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