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Played with Rorschach (I think it was him since he was using that avatar) and Aznpxdd and some random guy.
Damn we were at the finale for the Dead Air campaign and as we were near the end of the waves a tank shows up when most of us are low on health.
Next thing we know the tank throws a luggage cart at us and 3 of us go down in one attack. Only Rorschach is walking and we get lucky in that the tank ignores him while he helps me back up. Then he goes revives Aznpxdd while I revive the random player.
Somehow we lead the tank far off and I man the minigun to punish his fat ass into submission.
We are barely alive after as we get on the plane.
Damn that was fun.
Damn we were at the finale for the Dead Air campaign and as we were near the end of the waves a tank shows up when most of us are low on health.
Next thing we know the tank throws a luggage cart at us and 3 of us go down in one attack. Only Rorschach is walking and we get lucky in that the tank ignores him while he helps me back up. Then he goes revives Aznpxdd while I revive the random player.
Somehow we lead the tank far off and I man the minigun to punish his fat ass into submission.
We are barely alive after as we get on the plane.
Damn that was fun.
Outtrigger888
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Wow I just changed the 360 versions video setting to computer monitor even though im on a LCD TV, and it looks so much better.
Outtrigger888
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Are No Mercy and Blood Harvest the only campaigns you can play in versus? Or do the other 2 unlock?
aeolist said:
Versus is a different mode of play. Making sure that a level that works for co-op also works for 4v4 probably isn't as easy as you make it seem. They have to make sure the levels work with human-controlled Infected, for one, especially considering there's an AI Director which probably also had to be tweaked for Versus.
Anyone on GAF (PC version) available on the weekend to try to get the What are you trying to prove? achievement?
We have to beat expert on every campaign without dying, I believe you can be incapacitated. I tried on No Mercy, two times with three other players and I couldn't do it. Stopped sometime in part 3 of 5, in the segments after using the lift machine.
We have to beat expert on every campaign without dying, I believe you can be incapacitated. I tried on No Mercy, two times with three other players and I couldn't do it. Stopped sometime in part 3 of 5, in the segments after using the lift machine.
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The possiblilites of a Horde like mode in Source engine maps is mouth-watering good son.Shinz Kicker said:
Versus is too awesome.
While playing as Infected in the first map of blood harvest just outside the spawn point, my team had hunters on either side of the road, hiding in the woods just sitting there and yowling. I'm pretty sure we scared the other team shitless because they kept moving around in circles for the longest time, looking towards the woods with no one person really wanting to move forward. :lol
While playing as Infected in the first map of blood harvest just outside the spawn point, my team had hunters on either side of the road, hiding in the woods just sitting there and yowling. I'm pretty sure we scared the other team shitless because they kept moving around in circles for the longest time, looking towards the woods with no one person really wanting to move forward. :lol
Martial Loh
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That might be so, but don't 360 players tend to stop playing these types of games as soon as the next big title comes out? PC players will be on this for months and months to come!
Depends if L4D hits a certain threshold where people buy it because they're friends are playing it. If they keep playing it, more friends buy it, and it consolidates into a base that results in a healthy community for a long time to come. If the 360 version gets the support that TF2 was promised but never got, then I can see it lasting for a long while.Martial Loh said:
The real question is what this game cost to develop.
Smart developers know how to properly project sales, and how to budget accordingly. According to the Steam stats, we know that at least 35,000 people have bought Left 4 Dead on PC, and that at least 25,000 of them were pre-ordered on Steam. That's over $1million fully going to Valve, but they apparently spent $10million on marketing. Development for sure was cheaper than that, maybe $5million, given that they are building on an existing framework, but still, they probably need to make at least $25million for this to be worth their effort, and for it to fund their burn rate for the next 2 years. That means that the Xbox 360 has to make at least $24million for them, assuming nobody else bought it for the PC.
We know that the publisher+developer get $48 out of the $60 charged for a game. Assuming that Valve gets $25 per Xbox 360 game, they need to sell 1 million copies for this to be adequately profitable. Given the success of the demo on Xbox Live, and the time of year, that is possible, although still questionable due to the competition.
Of course, I expect they will be selling more on PC, both through Steam and retail, but I doubt that the total number will get too much above a few hundred thousand by the final tally a few years from now.
Smart developers know how to properly project sales, and how to budget accordingly. According to the Steam stats, we know that at least 35,000 people have bought Left 4 Dead on PC, and that at least 25,000 of them were pre-ordered on Steam. That's over $1million fully going to Valve, but they apparently spent $10million on marketing. Development for sure was cheaper than that, maybe $5million, given that they are building on an existing framework, but still, they probably need to make at least $25million for this to be worth their effort, and for it to fund their burn rate for the next 2 years. That means that the Xbox 360 has to make at least $24million for them, assuming nobody else bought it for the PC.
We know that the publisher+developer get $48 out of the $60 charged for a game. Assuming that Valve gets $25 per Xbox 360 game, they need to sell 1 million copies for this to be adequately profitable. Given the success of the demo on Xbox Live, and the time of year, that is possible, although still questionable due to the competition.
Of course, I expect they will be selling more on PC, both through Steam and retail, but I doubt that the total number will get too much above a few hundred thousand by the final tally a few years from now.
Fallout-NL
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35000 people bought it on pc? Is that without steam sales?
Fallout-NL said:
That's including Steam sales. At least, if the Steam statistics tracker publicly available is to be trusted.
Well, 35,000 is just the most number of people logged on at the same time playing online. Steam sales make up AT LEAST 25,000 sales (given the number of people online 1 hour after the game came out), and at least 10,000 retail sales.
It's more than likely that the actual sales are more like 100,000+ total on PC at the moment, just that not everyone plays at the same time.
Think about it, if 35,000 people were playing at once at 8pm and that was the peak, but there's 20,000 people playing it at 5am, they likely aren't the same people.
Stitch said:
haha oh i hope this will be a real campaign
I suspect that people who take the time to make fully fleshed 5 map campaigns will be doing movie posters for them. I fully expect a lot of awesome campaigns to be created for this game, mainly because they don't have to worry at all about the zombie spawns, they just have to make the geometry and the Director handles the rest.
Fallout-NL
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Zzoram said:
Kind of disappointing though. Landmarks like this deserve the attention a lot more than the trash that has defiled my user name for instance.
Smoker would be fine if their recharge was about half and you could actually pull people through windows and other obstructions that really shouldn't be blocking. I've never played the boomer where I had enough time for the bile to recharge. It's hope for a hit and then make sure to explode right next to them.Trevor360 said:
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Zzoram said:
Smoker requires patience that isn't worth the effort most of the time, IMHO, very situational class. Seriously, you have to decide if you're going to sit back and be that patient, hoping the stars come into alignment for you to be useful or do you just give it a basic attempt knowing that you'll most likely respawn as a class that can be more immediately effective?
Fallout-NL
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GameGamer said:
Myeah, not to insult you or anything, but I guess it takes a little imagination to understand what can be done with this.
Haven't you tried the demo though?
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As a Tank, I love knocking people off the building in the Finale of No Mercy.
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
I'm gonna buy a headset today, I think. If I find a cheap one, that is.
And yesterday it seemed like all of GAF was busy doing something else, so I hope some of you can play some campaign games today.
And yesterday it seemed like all of GAF was busy doing something else, so I hope some of you can play some campaign games today.
Cosmonaut X
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Woo-Fu said:Hunter can also harass since it has such high mobility, I find it much more enjoyable to play and more effective overall.
But you are correct, every other class does best waiting for a boomer or a tank to spread some chaos around.
TBH, I find the Hunter and Smoker the most satisfying to play as (though I havent had enough time as the Tank to fairly judge that just yet).
One of my favourite moments playing as the Infected was spawning as a Smoker, pulling a straggling Survivor off a rooftop, sliding them along the concrete and against the side of a truck and holding them there as they choked out. I've had great fun as the Hunter as well, and using their pounce to spring from end to end of a room around a Survivor before leaping in and pinning them never gets old.
However, I dread spawning as a Boomer. They're lumbering, awkward and the only way I've found to play effectively is to find a decent spawn spot, camp and hope you get just close enough to vomit or explode all over the Survivors. I've done that usefully one or two times (hiding in the safe room and exploding all over the last Survivor who then promptly gets torn to shreds
) but I find it less satisfying waiting to die over somebody than trying to survive and harass the Survivors.brain_stew
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Facism said:
Its £20 on Amazon.co.uk and mine was shipped this morning, go, go, go.
Dabanton said:Yep just ordered as it's pay day today.
£21.96 including delivery.
Um there's a free delivery option. Its £20 all in.
CrazedArabMan
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65536 said:
Yeah they did, but the demo still works online for the people who have it. Like Me, until I get the real game next friday.
BladedExpert
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Sanjay said:
Ordered! A steal indeed. Would have cost me almost £40 from Steam after tax. See you after the apocalypse in a few days fellas
GameGamer said:
This is the most intense game i've ever played. Sometimes it's even too much
I'm slowly going mad by hearing the tank run, horde music, or zombies groans while i'm not playing :lol
Also, if i play this right before going to sleep, it takes me a lot to close the eyes; that never happened to me. It pumps too much adrenaline, it's insane.
Awesome
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