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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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Augemitbutter
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arstal said:
i agree on everything. no wonder 80% of all players play him.
Corky said:
yea, i gave it a try again, after taking a break from online bouts. nothing has changed.
BotoxAgent
Member
Oichi said:
finished watching these videos. Holy cow, all these japanese players are just so precise and clean when they play and think really fast and make good decisions. God damn. They are all gooood.
And yeah, online sucks! It's hard for me to even walk and block on reaction when there's lag....so me trying to develop/learn my footsies online is becoming pointless. Online is all about the shenanigans.
FindMyFarms
Member
arstal said:
How do you feel about Barlawg then? He's waayy better than Ryu in the frame advantage department, I know because I abuse the shit out of it
The ones I mainly use are :
Far st. jab +5 on block, meaty near st. fierce anywhere from +2 to +4, cr. jab +4, cr. mk + 4
I love cr. mk, do it meaty and if you hit someone trying to wakeup throw, you can do cr. jab -> st. ja -> sweep after it. If it hits them crouching, you can get cr. jab -> cr. mp. And if they're blocking?!? Well I'm +4, something shitty is bound to happen to u :lol
Joekage said:
Ahh, you gotta click on them characters dawg!
black_vegeta
Member
That was some high level play Saqs. IFC Gief is beastly with them crispy links!
That FT10 was online right?
That FT10 was online right?
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Grifter said:
For seismo, bk, ultra mid screen, you have to do a delayed sjc bk. Like, sjc into bk, but don't put the bk in until around the peak of Viper's jump. Otherwise the ultra will whiff.
For FFF, a lot of people get hung up on it because they do it too fast. The input is slower than it looks. When I was learning how to do it, I did it in pieces. Like I'd practice fierce into fierce feint until I could do it without thinking about it. Then I'd add the 2nd fierce. Then I'd add the ex seismo or medium knuckle. And so on.
See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkfYn6MFkkI
Grifter said:
1. She's rhythmic, especially with the FFF. In minimal lag situations it is possible to hit confirm it (or at least choose whether to finish with seismo or BK). But yeah, there's a rhythm to it, and practicing that rhythm will lead to getting it down. The inputs should not be skipped or simplified (at least when I played SF4, I didn't simplify them). You literally have to do each of the inputs, but once you get the hang of fierce punch-->fierce feint, the rest of it is easy. Maybe suggest they do that.
2. When the air BK lands, ultra quickly. When the AA knuckle lands, ultra slowly (let them fall almost to the ground). Fire fast, lightning slow.
Aaaaaaand back to my cave I go!
hikarutilmitt
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XenoRaven said:
Built to last...
DURALAST!
GalacticAE
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So there was talk on srk about a bison ultra option select from chris hu's commentary in the A-N-D-R-E vs Daigo foney match. This is new to me. I'm gonna mess around with bison and fuerte for a few weeks and see what I can learn.
I hope I cn use bison st.rh like the proz.
I hope I cn use bison st.rh like the proz.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Timedog said:
Aint as bad as Kens :/
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FindMyFarms
Member
Timedog said:
Ryu's cr. fp and cr. rh have a faster startup, but more recovery frames than ken's. However, ryu's also have more total frames which makes them easier to whiff punish.
sixteen-bit
Member
Ken's sweep is worse overall though, because you can't combo into it and it's got slower startupTimedog said:
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
FindMyFarms said:
Not to mention Ken's cr. fp is absolute garbage like most his normals. Anything and everything will beat it, unless the opponent does an empty jump in. Sweep is almost useless too, can't punish with, can't poke, and can't combo with it in any way. Kinda reminds me of Dan's normals...how they all have atrocious start-up, but pretty decent hit stun.
edit: dementia beat me to it
Spiderjericho
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FindMyFarms said:
UGH! Dan's crouching fierce is the worst out of all three. It's ridiculous. Like Ken and Dan don't already have terrible specials, let's give 'em bad normals too (except for the godly forward + forward kick).
Is Saqs' youtube page just saqs? I'd like to see these videos.
sixteen-bit
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the_log_ride
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Spiderjericho said:
It's a little troubling that these comparisons are being made with Dan, who was made out to be a joke character. 'Just shows how hard you have to work with Ken...
BotoxAgent
Member
the_log_ride said:
oh geez, ken's specials and normals is nowhere near as bad as Dan's. Not even in the same territory of crappiness.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
BotoxAgent said:
Dan's standing Forward is pretty good to poke, and it's easy to string with a barrage of crouching Shorts. But yea, all of his punches are garbage, and standing Roundhouse.
As far as Ken goes, Standing Jab and Crouching Forward are alright. But compared to the crap factory that is Roundhouse, Target Combo, crouching or standing Strong, crouching or standing Fierce, there's no reason to use any of these moves unless they're going to hit. Close Roundhouse is good only if it hits too. The majority of his normals just don't come out fast enough, and don't cause enough blockstun to make them ever an option.
I mean...jesus christ, if I hit Zangief with a combo'd hurricane kick...it's a free SPD for him...ON FRIGGIN HIT. :lol But that's going into specials where a whole plethora of other problems also exist, but I digress.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
XenoRaven said:
=( Indeed. I just can't wait to start using Dudley, hoping he'll have the blockstun of a greek god.
"Oh you like this standing Roundhouse...can't uppercut or mash jab huh? Welcome to my world of +15 on everything mothafucka! NO DIGNITY!" Maybe I should take this to the SSF4 thread now....lol
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
XenoRaven said:
I recently came from an evening of playing 3rd Strike and Alpha 2 with my friends. I forgot how that shit just doesn't work in older SF games. There used to be a ton of blockstun but very little hit stun. They were just getting rocked because they're used to all the shitty habits SF4 causes...
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
XenoRaven said:
For SF4, absolutely. I can't think of any other conventional SF game that allows that including the SF2 series, Alpha series, SF3 series and CVS series. It's only for SF4 and it should be a bullet point on the back of the box.
D
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had the same problem, you have to open it in a browser that sux. like IE.Joekage said:
at the bottom with the characters heading and the number 4 (heading below street fighter zero 3)
click on the middle column. it's an asx file, this didn't work in winamp for me, I saved it and opened it in windows media player, can see the vids.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
XenoRaven said:
Rewarding players for getting beat with ultras, and adding barely any blockstun was a huge game changer for SF. Although, it was genius. The series was on a steady decline in sales ever since the SNES days because of its inaccessibility to casual players. Granted, the people who'd been playing SF for 15 years we're fine with games like 3s, but the majority of the audience shunned the hell out of that game for being so difficult. SF4 is great for tournament play, but there's some shallow shallow shit to this game sometimes...
"This is the Next Generation of Street Fighter! Ultra Combos to make your triumphant comeback!"
"Having trouble against the competition? Call our Capcom hotline at 800-MASH-OUT and we'll show you how to teach the pro's a lesson!"
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Pandaman said:
But another occasion comes up where you could swear that link was crispy as chicken, and you still get mashed to hell...
Cromulent_Word
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Here's a youtube link to the 50yen Feurte OCV that was talked about last page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhhs2QDnRrE&feature=youtube_gdata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhhs2QDnRrE&feature=youtube_gdata