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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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Ploid 3.0 said:We need to utilize the sf4 thread in the online forums. I'm itching to ask if people want to play here but it feels so wrong and dirty. I remember when the strict forum rules split gaming discussions from OT. I posted, "What if I still talk about games here anyway" then Bishoptl set me straight.
hehe, yeah. The Official Gears 2 thread has basically turned into an online matchup thread. I'm not sure what the official policy is. Sometimes it's ok, sometimes it's not.
Shadow780 said:
Yeah I should have been more specific. He actually didn't air fireball the whole time but did normal fireballs. I mean if I jump in too far away I catch anothe rfireball and if I jump in too close I catch a dragonpunch. Jumping over it and doing the sliding punch from Blanka worked sometimes but it's not really a perfect tactic.
Shadow780 said:
awesome vids! i had been doing some of that just because it felt right but it's cool to see it all worked into a cohesive strategy. my cross ups are decent enough but i do need to be quicker on the throw. but that should be pretty easy to work on as i can feel when i had the opportunity and was just too late on acting on it. also my combo game has gotten super rusty but one obstacle at a time!
Has anyone come up with some good tricks/positions for using blanka's coward pose? I kept thinking there had to be more of a use to it than hiding under fireballs and I never see tournament videos that use it.
I've noticed though that it can hide under a *lot* normals, the most interesting of which are crouching jabs. Coupled with the fact that you can cancel into electricity, I'm wondering if anyone out there has tried doing mixups like:
crossup->hide->electricity to try and bait the crouching jab.
Probably doesn't work against sweeps though? I've noticed the timing for hiding vs throws can be finicky as well. Does coward's stance have throw invinceability in the beginning? It seems like if I hide at the same time that they throw, the throw sometimes whiffs even at 0 range. That would make this mixup even more interesting.
The fact that I have *never* seen a tournament video make use of this makes me wary that there is some key weakness I'm missing though.
I've noticed though that it can hide under a *lot* normals, the most interesting of which are crouching jabs. Coupled with the fact that you can cancel into electricity, I'm wondering if anyone out there has tried doing mixups like:
crossup->hide->electricity to try and bait the crouching jab.
Probably doesn't work against sweeps though? I've noticed the timing for hiding vs throws can be finicky as well. Does coward's stance have throw invinceability in the beginning? It seems like if I hide at the same time that they throw, the throw sometimes whiffs even at 0 range. That would make this mixup even more interesting.
The fact that I have *never* seen a tournament video make use of this makes me wary that there is some key weakness I'm missing though.
I know its probably already been said, but I don't think playing online is making me a better player. All it is doing is training me how to take down a Ken/Ryu/Akuma with Bison over and over and over. I assumed there would be fewer shoto opponents as time went on, but it actually seems like I faced more of them last night than in any other session. Here's to hoping that people branch out in the coming weeks.
Can I just say that Ken got the shit end of the stick with the new costumes.
Akuma - Bad ass new look.
Gouken - Same
Ryu - Same
Dan - Hate the character, but is fun to use with the new gear.
Ken - WTF is this shit...pimp robes and gold chains? Seriously why not a suit or anything but that...
Akuma - Bad ass new look.
Gouken - Same
Ryu - Same
Dan - Hate the character, but is fun to use with the new gear.
Ken - WTF is this shit...pimp robes and gold chains? Seriously why not a suit or anything but that...
Omar Ismail
Banned
Duke Togo said:
If you haven't already then get on the NeoGAF SF4 lists. Just create your own player room and ask people to join. The GAF competition is Fierce and people use a very wide range of players.
Against akuma with blanka, I've never faced a *good* akuma so my advice could be way off...
If the akuma spams airfireballs enough that you can predict them, you can do upball right as he jumps to nail him and get close.
For ground fireballs, it depends on the distance. From full screen just jump over them or FADC them. If you are close enough to hit then slide, obviously. If you are about mid screen, close enough that you could ball him before a fireball comes out, then ball is safe against akuma as long as he does not have an ultra ready. So early on you can be very aggressive with the balls. Be sure to mixup balls with lp ball (to approach, don't hit him) into throw or lp ball into electricity.
If you have super meter, then go to town. EX ball him in the face. Ex rainbow to cross up or land next to him and throw.
If you still really, really have problems getting in against a fireball spammer, then just keep doing cowards pose to keep it a stalemate until the akuma get's bored and tries to do something else.
If the akuma spams airfireballs enough that you can predict them, you can do upball right as he jumps to nail him and get close.
For ground fireballs, it depends on the distance. From full screen just jump over them or FADC them. If you are close enough to hit then slide, obviously. If you are about mid screen, close enough that you could ball him before a fireball comes out, then ball is safe against akuma as long as he does not have an ultra ready. So early on you can be very aggressive with the balls. Be sure to mixup balls with lp ball (to approach, don't hit him) into throw or lp ball into electricity.
If you have super meter, then go to town. EX ball him in the face. Ex rainbow to cross up or land next to him and throw.
If you still really, really have problems getting in against a fireball spammer, then just keep doing cowards pose to keep it a stalemate until the akuma get's bored and tries to do something else.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Ploid 3.0 said:
Like Ploid said, EX h. ball is your friend, it'll go through fireballs...although be careful as it has a max distance. That plus DF+Fierce (slide) and KKK and D+PPP are your friend. Use D+PPP to duck under fireballs instead of taking block damage and use KKK to cover some distance as I believe its a little quicker than a regular dash. DF+Fierce has a lot more range than you think. Get the timing down and you can hit them from a good distance. I believe you have to be max distance for it to be safe on block though.
Akuma is a little trickier because of his air fireball. You're going to take some chip damage from blocking...although if you like to take risks you can negate this with focus attack or well timed jumps. If you time your EX h. ball you should be able to occasionally catch Akuma on his way down from his air ball or even with the EX v. ball. Most importantly be patient.
AndresON777
shooting blanks
ShinAmano said:
Really? lol that actually makes me want to buy it
RedAssedApe
Banned
Xater said:I really need to learn to charge when I jump as it seems. That's really my weakness right now. I never really played a charger before and I just forget to do it. :lol
@ henhowc: Patienc emay be my other problem
Same here. Getting to turtlers can be quite the chore sometimes. That being said. Once you get in mid-range, your offensive options open up a lot more and those shotos will need to be a lot more careful in terms of throwing out random fireballs. People start to get flustered...never jump at a Blanka with charge ppl
Seth is a tough boss but very beatable. I crushed him on Hardest difficulty with Ken, Ryu, Blanka, Zangeif.
In fact, his difficulty almost stays the same from medium to hardest. And no, I don't play the lame FK, FP noob way. I play him straight up.
Once you know his patterns he is easy to defeat.
In fact, his difficulty almost stays the same from medium to hardest. And no, I don't play the lame FK, FP noob way. I play him straight up.
Once you know his patterns he is easy to defeat.
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/sf4/090205_altcostumes/32.jpgChrisGoldstein said:
AndresON777
shooting blanks
ShinAmano said:
wow that is awful. thanks for the heads up
wtf is up with those shoes?
I created a "reduced ink" printable movelist for all the characters if anyone is looking for one:
http://espion4ge.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/sf4_pmovelist.pdf
it's 9 pages with about 3 characters per page, but if you print them double sided it comes out to 5 pages total.
http://espion4ge.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/sf4_pmovelist.pdf
it's 9 pages with about 3 characters per page, but if you print them double sided it comes out to 5 pages total.
Arpharmd B
Banned
ChrisGoldstein said:
Was it a Rufus player? Then it was probably me. I have 2800 BP but I lose to the crappiest of crap Blanka players. They just run away the whole time, and spam blanka balls. It takes so much work just to get in on them, that I just do Rufus taunt (where he sits down and wipes his brow) because that's how I feel chasing his ass all day.
Don't understand that non-install complaints. Is this a PS3 issue? I've noticed some battles take an extra 3 seconds to load, is that people who do not install? Or is it a latency thing? Either way it is not bothersome at all on 360.
Also, rest assured this game sold somewhere around 500k copies on 360. My leaderboards people with 0 BP are at the 320,000 range so assuming how many people bought this offline I'm ballparking 500k February numbers 360 and 300k PS3 (that's the normal trade off, give or take.). That's almost a million, that's really fucking good. But we'll know in a few days.
1367 BP... Slowly moving on up! I'd probably have more if I was playing more... I've tried to cut back my play time. I've noticed that the Ryu's and Ken's are mostly gone. That's good!
As Ryu, what can I do against an EX Blanka Ball? I'm pretty sure I can do exactly jack shit, besides jumping over it.
I think a Cammy flowchart could also be made. It'd go something like "Cannon Spike, Cannon Spike, Cannon Drill, Cannon Spike, Cannon Drill..."
As Ryu, what can I do against an EX Blanka Ball? I'm pretty sure I can do exactly jack shit, besides jumping over it.
haunts said:
I think a Cammy flowchart could also be made. It'd go something like "Cannon Spike, Cannon Spike, Cannon Drill, Cannon Spike, Cannon Drill..."
Don't know, but all the other ones in the new pack were awesome...battle damaged Ryu, Gouken and Akuma in crazy looking gear and Dan in sparring pads.ChrisGoldstein said:
Akuma & Gouken
Better Gouken
Ryu (it is missing his awesome tattered gi
Dan
Pic of everyone else can be found here.
Dartastic said:1367 BP... Slowly moving on up! I'd probably have more if I was playing more... I've tried to cut back my play time. I've noticed that the Ryu's and Ken's are mostly gone. That's good!
As Ryu, what can I do against an EX Blanka Ball? I'm pretty sure I can do exactly jack shit, besides jumping over it.
I think a Cammy flowchart could also be made. It'd go something like "Cannon Spike, Cannon Spike, Cannon Drill, Cannon Spike, Cannon Drill..."
I think its more like "Cannon Drill.. did it hit? No? Fuck it.. Cannon Spike! Did it hit? Yes! etc etc"
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Justin Wong using Abel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0HYG7WdeQc&feature=related
Note the heavy use of f+MK>>dash cancel for mix-up and pressure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0HYG7WdeQc&feature=related
Note the heavy use of f+MK>>dash cancel for mix-up and pressure.
RedAssedApe
Banned
ShinAmano said:
Is it really a pimp robes? From the screens it just looked like a warm-up karate gi. I think they should have put in pony-tail ken from SF Alpha. I'd buy something just to get rid of his dumb and dumber haircut..it just doesn't fit ken to look like such a dweeb.
Augemitbutter
Member
got three people leaving friendly matches today.
its starting to get lame.
its starting to get lame.
I had a quitter last night that I felt like calling out...so i sent the message 'if you cant take the loss your nothing but a punk'Augemitbutter said:
I got back death wishes against my family and claims that it was a connection issue.
I sent a message and an invite to a player match which was also responded with death wishes and such...lol.
UnholySpectacle
Member
Yesterday sucked. I got sick from something I ate at Soho so I called out of work. I figured I might as well get my BP up between bouts of abdominal pain and running to the toilet. I set my game to arcade with ranked fight request on and was in the middle of a CPU match when my work calls me so I turn my 360 off. After the call I fire the 360 back up and it tells me there is no save data? WTF? I was playing the CPU and the game was not even saving when I turned it off. So, now my 3000+BP, 300+ matches, and 70% win percentage is reset to 0. Anyone else have this happen?
Jamesfrom818
Banned
UnholySpectacle said:
Happened to me. I didn't have nearly as much BP but I did unlock a bunch of stuff.
UnholySpectacle
Member
Jamesfrom818 said:
Hmmm...Capcom might need to patch this then. I went through and unlocked everyone again in a marathon session last night because I love playing the unlocked characters more than the standard set. It just ruined my day, not that it was going that well to begin with.
And I agree about the rage quitters, this shit needs to stop. I fought 3 different Kens in a row yesterday and each one quit right before I KO'd them.
D
Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
RSTEIN said:
haha. As a startout Ryu player it's hard not to do this when you start getting beat on. I work on combos and just take the pounding that comes with not being able to execute them, but I find street fighter in general, even if playing with other players tends to push me to panic mode. I haven't played a fighter in years and the last one was soul calibur so I guess....
Also, challenge trial mode I finally beat normal for ryu and started in on hard. holy shit they werent kidding.
I think its something like
c.lk
c.lp
c.lp
c.mk
can't for the life of me get the last kick to come out. how in the hell can it be so difficult? Is there a 'secret' to getting these harder normal combos down? I've tried looking for a visual cue, but at this point i'm doing trial and error. and error. and error.
catfish said:
combos like that are... weird. Your problem, in fact, is that you are probably doing it too fast. I'm not sure if this applies since the 4th hit is a normal rather than a cancel into a special move... but try connecting the 3rd hit in a combo like this as *late* as possible while having it still count as a combo. Only if the 3rd hit is late will you be able to get the 4th hit to come out.