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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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Rummy Bunnz said:
I have to agree with you dude. Im to the point of learning another character. Im confused how capcom put her in this game with NO OVERHEADS and NO SAFE SPECIALS. You can jungle into her ultra but ive found the timing online to be pretty wonky with her. Most other characters are much more forgiving. IMO its better to Focus crumple into it.
Guile is a complete monster against cammy. Ive had a couple of guys who never left the db position cause they knew they didnt need too. I hope this isnt just me having trouble winning with her.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbxSSPCT7Bg&feature=related
Gouken's counter. Countering Supers and I think Ultras. Whoa.
Gouken's counter. Countering Supers and I think Ultras. Whoa.
Brannon said:
I wish it was. If it threw low it would be a great move. Its intimidating to see at a mid/low level of play, but anyone worth a damn you cant trick em into throwing a fireball from across the screen. and at the point it becomes worthless. At a high level anyone can punish the hooligan on reaction with any low move. And also easily dashed.
I don't think Gouken is that good, or he's really hard to use. He just has really bad pokes and it's damn hard to set up his 623+P or ultra. I know you can back throw into ultra, but getting in close is a real problem, everyone just tech throws, his blocked strings seem poor as well and he can't really tick. 623+P goes through fireballs but people know this as well. The best way I've found to get in is to do the dive kick, then punch to air-focus, but that's so risky. If you have 3 bars then you can start doing FADCs and it's easier to get in, but still it comes down to having to actually connect with the throw or the launcher, very difficult.
Has anyone got any tactics with him? Or even videos of good Gouken players?
Has anyone got any tactics with him? Or even videos of good Gouken players?
Kccitystar
Member
I'm trying to do Guile's challenges but I cannot get the timing of the charge moves down, especially on those that require you to jump towards the opponent. I try to hold back as I'm starting to jump then do the required punch/kick then the charged attack but it's not working for me.
A couple other charge characters have attacks like these and I think a big flaw with the combo challenges is that they do not give you a demonstration as to how the combo should be executed or when to do a certain move. I've looked at the youtube videos and it requires some riduclous precision/dexterity :lol
any tips?
A couple other charge characters have attacks like these and I think a big flaw with the combo challenges is that they do not give you a demonstration as to how the combo should be executed or when to do a certain move. I've looked at the youtube videos and it requires some riduclous precision/dexterity :lol
any tips?
AndresON777
shooting blanks
haunts have you done a Blanka video yet?
Akuma didnt work out too well for me, fucking sagat destroys me when I'm akuma...I have a chance with blanka though as long as the other player is not great.
Got my 10 ranked wins in a row achievement last night!
Akuma didnt work out too well for me, fucking sagat destroys me when I'm akuma...I have a chance with blanka though as long as the other player is not great.
Got my 10 ranked wins in a row achievement last night!
sonicspear64
Member
Aw shit! Sabin?!!!! :lolPhatSaqs said:
:lol i love the casadia bomb finishFindMyFarms said:
this is probably my favorite vid of fuerte beasting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwE6VDNV7dY
gutter_trash
Banned
add me PSN: JeRkYZapages said:Anyone on PSN want to play me... I haven't been practicing a bit here and there...
My PSN is Zapages
I am going to be playing later today as well.. Let me know please.
my style is Sumo Dictatorship
Spiderjericho
Member
bob_arctor said:
Reminds me of Geese Howard's counters. You have a small window to land them. Blue Mary and Yamazaki had large windows to land counters.
Gouken is a difficult character to play with. His standing fierce, low forward, throw>>>super/ultra are good...but what else?
Spiderjericho
Member
Skilotonn said:
Yeah...thanks for posting this. It was driving me crazy. And with the way pads work...it's hit or miss.
And I guess...to my benefit...is I love SF and the Markman virus...so I've bought more than a half dozen sticks in the last eight months.
It's basically an input issue. I was able to do it once in a blue moon with the pad. Just have to be precise. Which is sometimes difficult with the pad.
Spiderjericho
Member
Yeah...what's so bad about Gouken...that he needs to be banned? The average player isn't going to be able to fully utilize him. And other than throw into ultra...what else does he have? Akuma in HD Remix...sort of understandable (raging demon glitches, damage, air fireball traps...properties on fireball and shoto moves).
I wonder if any Japanese players will be coming to Evo this year and create a splash like the Urien or Yun revelations in TS?
I wonder if any Japanese players will be coming to Evo this year and create a splash like the Urien or Yun revelations in TS?
When you say Dictator, what character are you talking about?
BTW, why didn't capcom make online battles character selection like in SF2HD so you cannot see your rivals character? many people wait until you pick and choose afterwards being that an advantage, and i won't wait 30 seconds to choose every time i play ranked matches.
btw, i play guile i feel safe with him XD and tired of shotos. Is fei long any good? XD
BTW, why didn't capcom make online battles character selection like in SF2HD so you cannot see your rivals character? many people wait until you pick and choose afterwards being that an advantage, and i won't wait 30 seconds to choose every time i play ranked matches.
btw, i play guile i feel safe with him XD and tired of shotos. Is fei long any good? XD
jibblypop said:
Yeah, it does suck big time, especially in the beginning where I used to put all the blame on the d-pad, forgetting how easy everything used to come out before in HDRemix and SF: Anniversary Collection...
But being aware of it helps a lot, as it makes you try harder to nail the moves perfectly...
Spiderjericho said:
It took me at least 25 minutes, maybe more, but I FINALLY beat Balrog's last Trial - after coming so close so often, I had the idea of using my wired 360 pad which is a pad I never use so the d-pad is stiff as hell, and I got it...
Went on to beating Guile's last Hard Trial with my loose d-pad off of that momentum as well...
So happy now despite being pissed that I should have had these trials done so long ago!
But holy crap my thumb is so raw right now...
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Spiderjericho said:
Eh, the window isn't *that* small, especially against jump-in happy opponents. The timing reminds me of Karin's counters in Alpha 3 actually. I couldn't really advise any tactics on him that aren't obvious, like zoning w/ his fireballs (works way more than I ever thought it would to be honest) and doing everything in your power to land an EX rushing punch to pop people in the air and FADC the 2nd hit into combo of choice.
Also, what is the timing for his rushing punch to slide through fireballs? Haven't been able to gauge it enough to know on reaction.
Ever since I started using him online, I've been steady losing BP's but it's all good. He's the most fun I've had with a "shoto" since Hyper Fighting.
Spiderjericho said:
He's not banned... there was just talk of him being possibly banned because he was a secret boss in the arcade version, and no one knew if he'd be balanced or not. FWIW they were also talking about banning Seth at the same time. Shinblanka (the guy who runs the Final Round tournies) initially banned Gouken and Seth pre-console release, but then lifted the ban as soon as he realized that they weren't broken.
Japanese players will be at Evo this year. From what I have heard, on the Capcom side, Mago and Umehara are interested in going. For Soulcalibur 4 there seems to be two or three players who are seriously considering attending, since the scene for SC in Japan is very uh, non-existent.