TheHeretic
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ChrisGoldstein said:
Sagat is god tier, but the rest of that list is pretty much wrong. Dan isn't F tier, hes mid tier, and definitely not the worst character in the game.
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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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Sagat is god tier, but the rest of that list is pretty much wrong. Dan isn't F tier, hes mid tier, and definitely not the worst character in the game.
diffusionx
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ChrisGoldstein said:
The guide looks good and is better than most US fighting game guides but its not really any good. I spotted a typo literally the first time I opened it up, within minutes of using it. The one good thing is frame data, but even then, its only for the arcade characters.
FindMyFarms
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haunts said:
Are you talking about just general zoning? Also (regarding the highlighted) care to share?
Archie said:
For 3s, join 2df. There are some losers, but they're easily avoidable. =)
IDK if this has been posted yet, but (at least for the xbox 360)there's a verifiable AI glitch where the CPU does KoF God Rugal type cheese from the very first character on the easiest setting. At first I thought it was me, then I figured it was lazy and sloppy programming. But it's actually a glitch, and it comes from Installing the game to the HDD and downloading the patch. I uninstalled both and played from the disc and the AI is now as it should be in a videogame. Instead of taking 3 hours to beat Seth, it takes one minute.
I smashed on a vega player with my god tier rufus. Second round he was just standing there. I figured his controller got unplugged so I waited. Then I saw the disconnect message. I sent him this. you mad he replied rufus is the cheapest player in the game you dips hit. I replied...lol. I love xbl. So many good times.
Hey it's Thursday, and that means Keystone Light stream is happening tonight. If you haven't checked it out in a while, tonight would be good time to come back. I've got most of the technical kinks worked out, we've got multiple camera angles, real commentary (with a ghetto announcers table!) and more.
So tonight, 10PM PST, I'll give a reminder. Next week, we're looking to start earlier, so this may be the last time we do this so late. Hooray, east coast folks!
So tonight, 10PM PST, I'll give a reminder. Next week, we're looking to start earlier, so this may be the last time we do this so late. Hooray, east coast folks!
diffusionx
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qcf x2 said:
This happens on PS3 too I am sure. I tried beating Seth with El Fuerte last night and he was destroying me no matter what I did. Now, I have no idea how to play EF, but thats what Easiest is for. Every special move I got off was countered, every jump was punished, every block was punished, he was reading inputs. I think it was medium difficulty at least.
prodystopian
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Mr Jared said:
I just subscribed to your youtube channel to watch whenever you get it uploaded. Thanks for doing this.
East Coaster, otherwise I'd probably watch live.
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I like the other pictures in her photobucket.Spy said:
Augemitbutter
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jdub03 said:
had some player matches (same guy) with mixed characters on both sides. we were going pretty even the whole time, but later the same guy sent me a msg with a single word, calling me dipshit :lol
i dont know whats wrong with some people....
Spy said:
You know...this morning I almost did this to my 1080p DLP TV. Random Ken vs my Rose. Laggy conditions. I couldn't connect shit and instead of ultras I managed EX soul throws which are...ummm...not a suitable alternative, and usually result in me losing massive damage. At the end he does like 3 SRKs in a row and I go for the Ultra (executed nice and slow just in case)only to have that final glorious soul throw launch me into the air for the last SRK to kill me. I punched the floor, got up and prepped the sweet chin music for my TV. At the last split second I turned and kicked the air. Even after losing to so many crappy players, it hurts every time. I would rather lose a double perfect to an intermediate player than lose a single round to a scrub, it just should not happen in fighting games.
prodystopian said:
Aieee.. I didn't get videos up from last weeks tourney due to being way too busy ... I'm heading out to buy some extra DV tapes for tonight, so that hopefully, I'll find to encode everything this week.
Last week was great, too. YoungLegend was going absolutely nuts with the combos, so I want to get it up ASAP.
Timedog said:I watch it every thursday but the chat never works for me
Oooh, that sucks. I turned off the need to register, so that shouldn't be a problem
Try reinstalling Flash?You guys gotta see this Blarog glitch.. its nuts..
http://www.iplaywinner.com/news/2009/3/19/shotos-beware-new-balrog-glitch.html
http://www.iplaywinner.com/news/2009/3/19/shotos-beware-new-balrog-glitch.html
prodystopian
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FindMyFarms
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haunts said:
So how do they determine if stuff like this is going to be tournament legal? I main Balrog, but I imagine the dev's never wanted players to be able to absorb 2 hits instead of one, and if weren't lazy enough would probably patch it.
GalacticAE
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Balrog can ex-overhead for the ultra on Guile's sweep.
Anything like that Balrog kara is pretty much tourney legal. Like RCs in CvS2, you just have to adapt. When stuff like that gets discovered, it just changes the game.
Anything like that Balrog kara is pretty much tourney legal. Like RCs in CvS2, you just have to adapt. When stuff like that gets discovered, it just changes the game.
FindMyFarms
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dfyb said:
Why is that? It goes against both the game mechanics and the dev's intentions. It's not playing the game the way it's meant to be played.
If you look at other games with glitches, those are quickly taken care of. For example, when Counter Strike had bunny hopping (similar to snaking, glitch in the physics engine that would let you move real fast) everyone learned how to do it, but it got taken out of the game within the next few patches.
Are glitches accepted in the fighting game community due to the fact that in previous software generations, developer's didn't really have a way to fix them and standardize the gameplay on all fronts like their pc counterparts? Or is there some Sirlin esque win at all costs mentality behind this that I'm missing.
GalacticAE
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Because it's a part of the game. See what Roll canceling did to CvS2. The devs never intended for that either. This balrog thing isn't game breaking.FindMyFarms said:
FlashFlooder
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I feel like I'm in another dimension when I enter this thread... no idea what 95% of it even means...
because it's logistically very hard for a tournament to control. what if someone does it on 'accident'? and like others have said, it isn't gamebreaking. glitches often find themselves as established techniques in high level play.FindMyFarms said:
if it's patched, that's another story (but then the tourny would have to decide to either use the arcade version or the updated home version). also, it took quite a while to really stop bunny hopping in CS.FindMyFarms said:
GalacticAE said:
This is much better than my response which was going to be, "Deal with it."
Considering that his dashes already have armor to them, you should already know not to throw anything at Balrog when he has something charged. I'd be more concerned with what this means when playing footsies, but Balrog sans glitch already has more than enough ways to screw you up close.
Now let's see if the media FREAKS THE FUCK OUT over this like they did every other non-issue in SF4.
FindMyFarms
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GalacticAE said:
Can't say I know too much about CvS2. I just never understood why fighting games seem to be the only genre to embrace glitches and hiccups as opposed to just fixing them via patch.
Most recent game to come to mind is Team Fortress 2. So many game changing glitches in the first few versions. Some of them gave classes better advantages, though not game breaking. For example, you could glitch a Big into maintaining his normal walk speed while firing shots. It didn't break the game, but it made the class a LOT better. Where in fighting games players would say, well you gotta adapt to that nothing you can do, in a pc FPS, that gets taken out in the next patch because you're not supposed to be able fire and move at your normal walking speed.
you're comparing fighting games, traditionally found on arcade cabinets played offline, to PC games that are traditionally played online. obviously, it's harder to keep everyone updated with fighting games. with next gen consoles that have hard drives, it's now possible -- we'll see whether or not they do it though.
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I have been lucky recently since I've been bottom feeding to improve my bp.
diffusionx
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FindMyFarms said:
Probably because fighting games evolved before the concept of patches, really. I mean, with SF2, it was like, deal with it, wait for Turbo, or whatever. In the meantime just play the game and deal.
FindMyFarms
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Mr Jared said:
Of course if it doesn't get patched I'll learn how to deal with it.
You guys got to understand that I'm not asking about balancing, or complaining or anything like that. I'm just pointing out that back in the day, developer's couldn't fix glitches on non pc games. Fighting games were under that umbrella, so naturally, you had to cope with the game changing glitches. On the pc front though, where everything was online and developers could constantly fix/patch their game, every time an unintended glitch would arise, it would eventually get fixed by the dev (at least if they were a good company, ex blizzard or valve.)
Console games, and as an extension, fighting games can now be patched by developers if they chose to show that kind of support. This isn't like CvS where only the xbox version would be patched, because now all versions could be patched and you'd still have a definitive game that all people can play.
With all that being said, I don't see why they wouldn't patch it outside of laziness. I think Capcom and other fighting game companies can really set a precedent this generation in terms of continuing support for a game after release.