-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
- Thread starter haunts
- Start date
Honestly, if you haven't bought it by now- you probably won't get that much out of it.
The game is not newbie friendly, and the newbies are no longer newbies, so you'll get stomped in MP, and get frustrated. If you are into fighting game, you would have already bought it.
The single-player side of SFIV is hideous.
My suggestion would be to get SCIV instead, or wait for KOFXII or Tekken 6.
Reasoning: single-player modes will be better on those (maybe not KOFXII) and competition won't be as cut-throat.
The game is not newbie friendly, and the newbies are no longer newbies, so you'll get stomped in MP, and get frustrated. If you are into fighting game, you would have already bought it.
The single-player side of SFIV is hideous.
My suggestion would be to get SCIV instead, or wait for KOFXII or Tekken 6.
Reasoning: single-player modes will be better on those (maybe not KOFXII) and competition won't be as cut-throat.
McBradders
NeoGAF: my new HOME
Um, does Rose's LP Soul Throw grab through Hurricane kicks? I did it earlier but I dunno if I grabbed on the last couple of frames as they were landing or if I plucked them out of it 
FindMyFarms
Member
MIMIC said:
Ok this is a hardcore noob question, but is there a difference between landing a flashkick after one cr.lp compared to three cr. lp? Cuz I swear I can't do it after three. By can't do it, I mean I can't even get the flash kick to come out. I remember being stuck on one of his trials because of that.
Yes there is. In the lp to super the lp is being canceled. With the 3x lp to super the super after the last lp can only be linked which requires stricter timing. Someone who's more knowledgeable can correct me if I'm mistaken.FindMyFarms said:
Edit : read through your post really fast, but I think this should apply to regular flash kick as well.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Jesus Shoes said:
Well you need a high end broadband internet connection, and unless you don't mind playing offline. There are a lot of challenges in challenge mode. Things like the computer's gauges aren't visible (including health) while you have defense bonus. That stuff is quite fun for a bit since it mixes things up. The arcade mode is the normal ladder from the old street fighters. If you like fighters, and have someone to play with locally you should get it. If you'd only play it online, wait for a patch (playing online is a pain, and only 2 people in a room) or price drops/deals.
RedAssedApe
Banned
MIMIC said:
Well anything that can hit Blanka out of electricity (thats not a projectile) and not trade-hits is kind of silly no? Take sweeps for example... :lol
FindMyFarms said:
Some of his combos require RIDICULOUS timing. His 3 cr. lp > flash kick is a linking combo (IIRC) and you just have to keep practicing until you get the timing right. It's all about knowing when to execute the next move.
Ploid 3.0 said:
His backstep roll beats Zangief's lariat, IIRC
RedAssedApe
Banned
Ploid 3.0 said:
I'd actually completely disagree with you here. I find online to be very playable and the best part of the game. If you want to see really horrible online play go try SF 2 Turbo Hyper Fighting on XBL. Come back after that and tell me that SF4 has bad lag.
The Challenge mode is ridiculously boring...come on survival and time attack? zzzzzzzzzzzzz...I hate that they force you to complete those snooze fests just to get all the character colors.
The only annoying part so far is having to beat the game so many times just to unlock characters.
FindMyFarms said:
The problem is the restriction on linking and canceling now with SFIV, which is very strict...
The only, and I mean only way to combo light attacks x 3 into a Flash Kick is to NOT mash into them - you to hit the timing perfectly slow enough into each other (linking), then cancel the final light attack into the Flash Kick...
Mashing the light attacks will cancel the light attacks into each other, so while you'll be able to combo those attacks, it will prevent you from comboing into any special move...
It's new for SFIV and takes a lot of getting used to for big combos, as I guess Capcom's other goal was to enforce precision (same deal with the engine giving you another move with certain moves if it isn't executed 100%)...
prodystopian
Member
Skilotonn said:
Even that isn't true. I was mashing normals last night that should combo and they wouldn't unless I slowed them down and timed them correctly.
Actually, now that I think about it, in a real fight, the combo thing doesn't necessarily have to pop up for them to stay in block stun, does it? If I mash lkx3, can they interrupt if 'combo' doesn't pop up?
FindMyFarms
Member
Skilotonn said:
So what your saying is cr. lp -> link -> cr. lp -> link -> cr. lp -> cancel flashkick?
Now is this character specific? Because I've been doing cr. lp x3 into lp straight or headbutt w/ balrog forever. And everything is canceled, no links at all.
Also how do you know if you have to link the normals before cancelling into a special? Example Ken's cr. lk xx st. lp xx cr. mk xx ex tatsu. I cancel the lk into lp, but link the cr. mk, and cancel into the tatsu. So some of it's cancelled, and some linked, but the special comes out. Because with Guile I could cancel 2 cr. lp's into a flash kick, but now I know that if I do 3, I have to link them.
Is there a formula to determine when you have to link normals before cancelling into the special? I.E. any time you do 3 cr. lp/lk you have to link with said character? Also, is this a charge character thing?
FindMyFarms said:
You only have to link the 3rd cr. lp with the flash kick. So, it's like this: cr lp > cr lp > cr lp > link > flash kick
I hate all of Guile's facking linking combos so I just use jumping HP > cr mp > flash kick (or sonic boom). No linking here...just canceling.
FindMyFarms
Member
MIMIC said:
So weird, is that only with guile?
McBradders
NeoGAF: my new HOME
Phthisis said:
Hot shit!
I'm finding that people my level generally have no fucking clue about Rose, which is great for my ego, anything else I can use to screw up their game is awesome.
prodystopian said:
Light attacks can be mashed easy if they're supposed to cancel based on that character - like Guile can link lk, lk, lp, and that can be mashed as well, but nothing else can be comboed into special-wise...
But from a light to medium or high, or any other combination needs timing...
Ploid 3.0
Member
henhowc said:
Online connection
Well the online connection speed isn't a problem of mine. To me the game plays and seem smooth pretty much all the time, with a rare random hickup. Sometimes I get a very laggy match but that's like 3 times out of the 400 plus matches I had. I got complaints that games against me cause a delay in my friend's reaction times or something. Two people on my flist told me this, I figure the others just ignored it or something. One of them showed me a faster internet speed for a extra $10 per month (sf4 subscription fee is how I saw it since every other game I have work fine as far as I can tell, even sf4. I'd just be getting it to make playing against me smooth pretty much.
Doing research on how I could be getting a smooth play experience and my opponent getting lad I found someone say, "the people with the best connection are the ones that end up having to deal with lag while the people with bad connection don't" paraphrase. Also there was a time Fersis and I played, he said he experienced a lot of lag, and I only noticed it one battle. I figured the netcode required a lot of speed from the advice I was given. I just stopped playing those two and did random from then on, unless I got a request.
Challenge modes
I don't really like the challenge modes, but the handicaps, and buffs reminds me of World Tour mode in SF alpha 3. I want that mode in the next fighter. The time and survival challenges were a lot better than the normal ladder arcade mode. There's not much to the single player, but the challenge mode is the best part so I figured it was the plus.
MIMIC said:His backstep roll beats Zangief's lariat, IIRC
Nah, he just hit's Zangief's vulnerable spot (his head). If blanka were to connect on a hitbox he would knock him out of the rolls. Even his Ultra rolls have weak spots, but since it's all thundered up it also have some protection somewhere, like the normal thunder shock.
Okay guys how come everyone quits on me? I play like two, three rounds then they quit. Almost every single time. It can't be that I suck, because the people I play with I often beat or come close to beating, or we are a really good match.
I'm maining Ken, and I think at least that I'm not a flow chart user.
I'm maining Ken, and I think at least that I'm not a flow chart user.
FindMyFarms said:
Yup, bingo, and it goes for everyone...
Everyone has that timing with every combo - it's about 1/60 of a second, or for the best reference, look at the yellow flash at the opponent's health bar whenever you hit them - if you time your next hit the instant the yellow flash will hit the other end of the bar, it will link...
gutter_trash
Banned
I think I am going to trade Killzone 2 for the 360 version of SF4 so I can see what 360 land is,
dont worry PS3 peeps, my prefferences are always pro-PS3 first
dont worry PS3 peeps, my prefferences are always pro-PS3 first
AZ Greg
Member
I'm starting to think that combining wins/losses of ranked/player matches in your player data was a bad idea. Just like all the people who have to have a greater than 1 k/d ration in an FPS, people on this really seem to care about having a greater than 50% win rate. The combination of stats from ranked/player matches seem to make people a little more uptight when playing player matches. I can beat someone 2 times in a row, in close matches, and then I'm booted. I can handily beat someone in 1 match and then I'm booted. Etc...
Ploid 3.0
Member
Shadow780 said:
That close huh? I never did it that close, but for you to get hit as the ball is on it's way up I'd figure it's still blocking up top, and waiting for it to get waist level to start blocking down there. People stop my ball all the time if I do it when they aren't already in a motion. They are even able to hit my ball when I'm on the way up. Before the ball start dropping at head level of a normal character I guess it's vulnerable.