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_dementia said:250.
You know you're in good company when the SFIV official thread has more posts than a Killzone 2 or Gears 2 one
With 100% less retardation, too.
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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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With 100% less retardation, too.
sixteen-bit
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or play SF3?MoxManiac said:
sixteen-bit
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Yeah... a lot of the technical stuff isn't done using a standard controller.Danielsan said:
You don't have to be a machine memorizing moves and combos to be proficient though.
Just start by learning the easiest ways to do big damage and punish opponents. A lot of the ridiculous showy stuff has so much damage reduction they're pointless in real matches.
It's a peeve yeah, but I think they're expecting you to do the same so if you pick quickly, when they see you doing that, they usually do the same.Shinjitsu said:Anyone else got to the point where they just quit a if people don't pick a char within 10-15 seconds? I'm so fucking sick of people sitting there for 30 seconds just to pick Ken, I could really care less who you play, just don't be a douche and wait for the timer to run out.
I've been spending time in training mode recently trying to get my timings with combos better. I love pulling off Chun-Li's Ultra after her MK->MK->down up kick move (whatever that is called) when an opponent is in the corner the whole thing connects
I still have trouble getting Gen's Super -> Ultra, because I can't pull it off 100% of the time, I usually choose not to risk wasting the Ultra bar and go for something else after the Super. Damn 360 pad!
prodystopian
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BitchTits said:I've been spending time in training mode recently trying to get my timings with combos better. I love pulling off Chun-Li's Ultra after her MK->MK->down up kick move (whatever that is called) when an opponent is in the corner the whole thing connects
Nice. I haven't worked on that setup much. In fact, I haven't worked on setting up the ultra enough. I'm getting better with little things in my Chun game, though, like timing for her links.
Sagat is killing me, though. The timing for his links seems a bit more strict than Chun's and I can't connect the F+HK after FADC TU for the life of me. I've only spent ~15 minutes trying it a couple times, but I can't seem to get it. I'm starting to get the cancels down now, though.
prodystopian said:
Yeah people say Sagat is easy but once you get into it a lot of his links are pretty rough. I'm still maybe 60% on a good day on his c.lk x2 c.lp xx tiger uppercut. :\
Some days are better than others though were I land his links like all the time, but the timing is pretty strict so if im having an off day it just gets me in a lot of trouble.
As far as the F+RH, just wait a second till they drop about head level then do it.
Yeah I figured most decent players use arcade sticks. The problem is that I've never played a fighting game using an arcade stick and I don't particularly feel like blowing 80+ on a piece of hardware that I'm uncertain about. On the other hand, the d-pad is really fucking up my thumb and as it is now I can't get moves out 100% of the time._dementia said:
prodystopian
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haunts said:
With Chun, if you mash, you may not get the combo, but you'll usually keep pressure. With Sagat, you really can't mash for poke strings. That is an interesting way to 'balance' him. If your timing isn't TIGHT you will get a reversal or stuffed against a good player.
My problem with the F+RH is doing dash F+RH at all. I usually hit it too soon and the RH doesn't come out. I just need more time in practice mode, which I'll have now that I got all of the damn colors
.bob_arctor
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Shinjitsu said:THANK YOU!
I absolutely love Gouken though, and plan on making him my main for a very long time.
Was able to win a tight match yesterday with this combo except I did his Ultra instead of the Hurricane Kick. I also like just basic combos with him--like jump in FP, standing FP into Shinshoryuken super. Or a variation where you substitute cr.MP for the standing FP, which looks more stylish to me. I think it's also possible off a close MK which also looks dope.
Finally got up past 2000 BP yesterday as well--my Abel was doing really well whereas my Gouken was struggling. Abel's cross-up MK off opponent wake-up is still a major problem for a lot of people apparently.
SnakeswithLasers
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RevenantKioku said:
I think I'm 3 and 75. Probably doesn't make you feel better, but it doesn't make me feel better either.
Edit: Anyway, I spent a lot of time in challenge mode with Chun Li last night. I'm stuck. But whatever.
When I left challenge mode, I managed to almost beat the game in easy--whereas before I was getting beaten at around the 3rd or 4th guy. So I must have gotten a little better. I can't beat Seth though. WTF. =/
RevenantKioku said:
Learn your best anti-airs for each character you use so people cannot jump at you with out getting punished. From there find the best normal moves you have to pressure with and interrupt their attacks. Dont feel like you have to use every last attack that you have, just find the fastest ones with the most priority.
Try to push the opponent into a corner if at all possible to limit their options. Once you have them there, keep them there. Dont try to engage them, just stand a character width or so away from them and keep them there with whatever solid moves you have.
Focus on that, focus on having a game plan before each match and you should do a lot better.
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ok, I almost had my first videogame related violent episode since childhood.
someone teach me what to do against throws. fucking any throws. I thought it was just push 2 buttons and that stops the throw, but I get thrown around like a rag doll. Didn't hurt that I kept doing dragon punches by accident in the last matches, but it got to the point that abel was just roll -> throw for free.
I tried to be patient and learn from it, but you know that feeling when you feel like a magnet for bullshit? FUUUUUUUUCK
someone teach me what to do against throws. fucking any throws. I thought it was just push 2 buttons and that stops the throw, but I get thrown around like a rag doll. Didn't hurt that I kept doing dragon punches by accident in the last matches, but it got to the point that abel was just roll -> throw for free.
I tried to be patient and learn from it, but you know that feeling when you feel like a magnet for bullshit? FUUUUUUUUCK
sixteen-bit
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LP+LK, it's not just any two buttons.catfish said:
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Deleted member 1235
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no, i mean i know it's that but I swear to the baby jesus it just doesn't stop throws. for me and me alone!_dementia said:
seriously though, how quick do you have to be? I was yelling at the screen 'I know you're going to throw me dick' and this cheesy abel was just roll, throw. everytime. it got to the point where my game (what there is of it) broke down with ryu and I couldn't hit normal moves because it was so demoralising.
I take it that a whiffed dragon punch = free throw regardless for the opponent because of recovery time?
sixteen-bit
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was this Abel command throwing?catfish said:
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not always, but sometimes._dementia said:
Are command throws escapable?
Is it me, or are Gen's aerial strikes (Oga, for example) absolutely useless? If the opponent knows the character's capable of that class of move, they can predict/block them easily - especially after the 2 second DB charge. I mean, if I'm crouching at the other side of the screen to avoid high attacks, what else could I be planning? :lol
I'm still keen to develop his short-range (mantis) combos, since throughout my 60 hours of play I've yet to contest anyone using him (let alone proficiently). No doubt that's because he's obscenely difficult to get to grips with, and definitely one to master with a decent arcade stick.
He's worth practising with for the surprise factor alone though; too few people online have seen enough of him to really know what's coming next. It doesn't make the road any less rocky, however...
I'm still keen to develop his short-range (mantis) combos, since throughout my 60 hours of play I've yet to contest anyone using him (let alone proficiently). No doubt that's because he's obscenely difficult to get to grips with, and definitely one to master with a decent arcade stick.
He's worth practising with for the surprise factor alone though; too few people online have seen enough of him to really know what's coming next. It doesn't make the road any less rocky, however...
Idk, if anyone mentioned this, but Capcom is releasing a new Street Fighter Art book next month. Looks pretty thick too!
Heres the store link: http://www.e-capcom.com/ec/srDispProductDetailCsLink/doColorSizeLink/1/1/A10001466/10/10/srDispProductDetail/1
I found this on Akiman's blog, who was one main artists on Street Fighter back in the day. The guy does excellent work! might be a bit NSFW http://blog.livedoor.jp/akiman7/
Heres the store link: http://www.e-capcom.com/ec/srDispProductDetailCsLink/doColorSizeLink/1/1/A10001466/10/10/srDispProductDetail/1
I found this on Akiman's blog, who was one main artists on Street Fighter back in the day. The guy does excellent work! might be a bit NSFW http://blog.livedoor.jp/akiman7/
Omar Ismail
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Cataferal said:
I've never been dominated by a character so much than by a good Gen. I've had two separate master-Gens absolutely crush me, whereas every other character I am at least competitive against.
So my advice: stick with him, and try to learn from the pros. Gen is just insane.
Too difficult for me to use right now though.
This might not be the best way, but maybe for those who really suck, why not try playing for a while just doing what you think might work and not going after combos or emulating the pro's. Try to make the learning experience more organic and naturally develop the basics, then move up to combos and what not.
The S-Word
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I LOVE THIS GAME
edit: Post 25,000
Blanka is the man, girlfriend
edit: Post 25,000
Blanka is the man, girlfriend
SnakeswithLasers
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Danielsan said:
I spent 30 minutes trying to beat him on Easy last night and eventually gave up.
GamePnoy74
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I've been thinking of getting Udon's Street Fighter Tribute book but after hearing about this one a few weeks back I think I'll be trying to find this instead.Askia47 said:Idk, if anyone mentioned this, but Capcom is releasing a new Street Fighter Art book next month. Looks pretty thick too!
Heres the store link: http://www.e-capcom.com/ec/srDispProductDetailCsLink/doColorSizeLink/1/1/A10001466/10/10/srDispProductDetail/1
I found this on Akiman's blog, who was one main artists on Street Fighter back in the day. The guy does excellent work! might be a bit NSFW http://blog.livedoor.jp/akiman7/
adversesolutions
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RevenantKioku said:
I've been playing SF pretty hardcore since 1999, can do some mean combos in Third Strike, Alpha 3 etc. And I miss combos every match in this game. The timing window is just so small that it will wind up completely different if for instance you are doing a jump-in combo and land one frame earlier or later than you expected. Other games were much more lenient here.
This is one aspect of SFIV which frustrates me, especially since the unreliability of many combos makes fighting Zangief rather hellacious. Still, I'm still trying to get more consistent, and maybe one day I'll look back and be like 'that shit was easy'.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
SnakeswithLasers said:
You must be really horrible at the game then.
voodoopanda
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Fighting Seth in Arcade mode is completely different from actual playing. Don't try to play well, use basic attacks and patterns. He's really easy once you get the hang of it.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
He doesn't block
You'd have to be asleep to not peep that.
You'd have to be asleep to not peep that.
A good AI hole I've found when you play as Dhalsim is that when you transport, they automatically attack. Automatically. No instant air teleports will ever work, as your opponent WILL instantly attack you in your vulnerable state.
The solution? Yoga Catastrophe, and just before it hits your opponent, teleport. He will try to attack you and end up eating the Ultra. Works for Seth too.
The solution? Yoga Catastrophe, and just before it hits your opponent, teleport. He will try to attack you and end up eating the Ultra. Works for Seth too.
prodystopian
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LakeEarth said:
A good AI hole I noticed was "LAAARRRRRRRIAT!" (to be spoken in Russian accent)
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Danielsan said:
He doesn't block man.
Antdogg355
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Antdogg355 said:
Anyone know? I am still curious about this.