Vdragoon
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KevinCow said:Huh. A turtling Chun-Li. Haven't seen that before.
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KevinCow said:Huh. A turtling Chun-Li. Haven't seen that before.
MIMIC said:What is the point of Dan's Legendary taunt? I mean, it's funny....but is there a situation where it becomes possible and reasonable to use?
Legendary Taunt: 2QCF + HP/K (to be used when opponent's controller disconnects)
It's the only move in the game that's Ultra-cancellable, used in some combos.MIMIC said:What is the point of Dan's Legendary taunt? I mean, it's funny....but is there a situation where it becomes possible and reasonable to use?
Legendary Taunt: 2QCF + HP/K (to be used when opponent's controller disconnects)
It is hilarious if that connects though.henhowc said:You can cancel it with an ultra...but not really useful.
Vdragoon said:i dont know i think it is quite easy to connect.
mk>fireball>super taunt>cancel ultra. the mk can catch anyone quite easily.
KevinCow said:Jesus fucking christ. I'm getting my ass kicked by a Balrog who's doing almost nothing but spamming the dash punch. There's like no way around it! As soon as I'm out of my blockstun, he's doing another one! This is utterly ridiculous. The only way to counter it is to guess when he's going to do it and hit him out of it.
KevinCow said:Jesus fucking christ. I'm getting my ass kicked by a Balrog who's doing almost nothing but spamming the dash punch. There's like no way around it! As soon as I'm out of my blockstun, he's doing another one! This is utterly ridiculous. The only way to counter it is to guess when he's going to do it and hit him out of it.
GalacticAE said:Balrog stomps El Frijolero for free.
I gotta play more ElFs. Add me on PSN if you play him.
PSN:GalacticAE
I've been trying to play a calmer game these last few days. All these turtles in championship have been frustrating me so I figured hey, maybe they have the right idea. Such a fucking mistake. I've been losing constantly since I tried that approach. When I try to think I just crouchblock and don't poke, then throw out a random special and get punished. Or an ultra. Oh the ultras! It wasn't until I looked up and saw it was like...1-8 in your favor that I realized that trying to play smart is stupid.TurtleSnatcher said:Later I had 40 matches against Rummy. Eff you Rummy and your random Canon spikes :lol
Your Cammy is slightly better then my Fuerte.. I did win some early matches though and some mixed in later when you started to roll with her.
I thought you were teching well from the start! I'm not used to playing people who throw as much as I do. Also not used to Fuerte at all. I run into him with surprising regularity but I also have my highest win % against him...or Viper. They're top 2 at least. So it was interesting to play one who made heavy use of his splashes and throws so I could try and figure out how to counter them. I'm still not entirely sure. Same with his ultra. Does it have throw properties like Giefs? I assumed it did so I never tried to block it. So GGs!Canon Spike is officially the gayest move in the game. You can jump and a HK Canon Spike will hit you.. also wtf at Hooligan Throw.. I was crouching and the shit still grabs you? Also your walk up throws .. ARGH .. I started countering them toward the end but they were driving me crazy.
TurtleSnatcher said:Canon Spike is officially the gayest move in the game. You can jump and a HK Canon Spike will hit you.. also wtf at Hooligan Throw.. I was crouching and the shit still grabs you? Also your walk up throws .. ARGH .. I started countering them toward the end but they were driving me crazy..
TurtleSnatcher said:I hate it because i have to turtle back because his HK sweep has two hits and he can just constantly come at you with an attack it feels.
glad you feel my pain. Cannon Spike is almost as bad as lariat in the "crush everything in your moveset if timed properly" sense.TurtleSnatcher said:Canon Spike is officially the gayest move in the game. You can jump and a HK Canon Spike will hit you...
I figured that out, but it almost never EVER works online. Lag or shitty timing i guess.Future said:Always focus the second hit of sweep...you have time to do it after blocking the first hit
Zissou said:I've been playing championship mode, and god damn. I've definitely seen a bit more variety character-wise, increasing the game's apparently playable roster to 7 or so. The thing is, it doesn't matter who the hell someone chooses, as there's something like a 90% chance they're playing straight turtle style. It doesn't matter what you do. I'm way ahead on life and Ryu's jumping back and fireballing until the time runs out and I damn near fall asleep jumping over hadoukens. Turtle chun-li? What the hell? I can't even count the guiles/balrogs that spend the entire match crouch blocking. I can see why people switch to Sagat as he can at least force the opponent to do something. Matches are a test of who gets bored at their edge of the screen and decides to actually do something. I'm not the most aggressive player, but I definitely get in and try to mix it up as much as I can. The sooner downloadable third strike comes out, the better.
bob_arctor said:Well, so much for using Sakura in Championship--the sheer amount of work you have to do to get a win with her just isn't worth the frustration. It's really a shame as she's so much fun to use. For all this talk of balance, I just don't see it with the weaker/low-stamina fighters. Back to Gouken and Honda it is.
I never time it right and get hit.. NEVERFuture said:Always focus the second hit of sweep...you have time to do it after blocking the first hit
Lost Fragment said:I think I might give up on trying to seriously play Viper until I get a stick. Too many of her combos I just miss too often .
It sucks because she's my favorite new character, moveset wise. But trying to pull some things off on the 360 analog is a crapshoot sometimes. Even though Viper is supposedly like S+ tier and Gen's on the bottom, I find I have a much easier time waylayin suckas with Gen.
TurtleSnatcher said:I never time it right and get hit.. NEVER
And when I do hit it he doesnt crumple or stun enough for me to do anything
FindMyFarms said:I wouldn't try to focus hit the sweep online, lag just kills your timing window. You play Fuerte right? If you have ex bar, you can just ex run backwards (after the first sweep hit) then press. Really easy to do on reaction.
iam220 said:i'm getting so much hate mail it's not even funny. Might be the way I use my sagat, there has been rounds that were won exclusively with tiger shots. Whenever I knock my opponent down, instead of going for a crossup on wake up, I just ran to the opposite side of the screen and blast out those tiger shots. I also have a very cheap way of delivery tons of chip damage; crouching low kick, crouching low kick, medium kick cancel to tiger knee. perfectly safe and most people don't know how to defend against it, so i just rinse and repeat. Doing that same loop 5-6 times in a row.
Believe it or not, zangief is my favorite match up.
iam220 said:i'm getting so much hate mail it's not even funny. Might be the way I use my sagat, there has been rounds that were won exclusively with tiger shots. Whenever I knock my opponent down, instead of going for a crossup on wake up, I just ran to the opposite side of the screen and blast out those tiger shots. I also have a very cheap way of delivery tons of chip damage; crouching low kick, crouching low kick, medium kick cancel to tiger knee. perfectly safe and most people don't know how to defend against it, so i just rinse and repeat. Doing that same loop 5-6 times in a row.
Believe it or not, zangief is my favorite match up.
bob_arctor said:Jeez. Even reading your description is boring as hell. Can't imagine doing that over and over.
iam220 said:i'm getting so much hate mail it's not even funny. Might be the way I use my sagat, there has been rounds that were won exclusively with tiger shots. Whenever I knock my opponent down, instead of going for a crossup on wake up, I just ran to the opposite side of the screen and blast out those tiger shots. I also have a very cheap way of delivery tons of chip damage; crouching low kick, crouching low kick, medium kick cancel to tiger knee. perfectly safe and most people don't know how to defend against it, so i just rinse and repeat. Doing that same loop 5-6 times in a row.
Believe it or not, zangief is my favorite match up.
Chorazin said:Wow, that sounds like so much fun to play against. Wee.
arstal said:With Honda- some matches I really try to rush in, mostly vs Guile, Ryu, Sagat, and Chun. Others I have to turtle HARD- Balrog, Blanka. I tend to play runaway turtle more then sit around turtle though.
The thing is my style of turtling I try to use a lot of feint attacks to bait turtles into trying to punish something that isn't there. Good players anticipate the feints though.
To me, 3S was more of a turtle game then SFIV. If you want an offensive fighter- play VF or KOF98UM, or even STHD.
iam220 said:i'm getting so much hate mail it's not even funny. Might be the way I use my sagat, there has been rounds that were won exclusively with tiger shots. Whenever I knock my opponent down, instead of going for a crossup on wake up, I just ran to the opposite side of the screen and blast out those tiger shots. I also have a very cheap way of delivery tons of chip damage; crouching low kick, crouching low kick, medium kick cancel to tiger knee. perfectly safe and most people don't know how to defend against it, so i just rinse and repeat. Doing that same loop 5-6 times in a row.
Believe it or not, zangief is my favorite match up.
FindMyFarms said:KillaSasa
I don't know if I should be showing you this, but if you start pullin this shit on me next time we play I'll know where u got it from haha! Here's a sick Guile OCV'ing a pretty good team at Arcade Infinity. -----> Guile Ownage<----- His footsies and zoning are out of this world.
Also, what's up w/ the GP? I was on my buddies ps3 tonight, and won a bunch of tourneys in G2. But somehow, we went down in GP at the end of the night. Went from 2700 or so, to like 2600. Each time I won a tourney it would say I gained 100 or so GP, but then that wouldn't translate to the profile. Am I missing something here? Also I could never seem to upload videos :/ GAF help me.
myDingling said:That's pretty assy.
Whenever I play runaway with shoto shots like that I seriously just jump everything. Ryu/Sagat/Akuma players love to just back off and spam that shit. I'll just jump until you get tired. Or if I have an ex bar I will so make you pay with Cammy's full screen jump.
Killa Sasa said:And CSpike's priority isn't that bad, the only weird thing it beats out is Bison's ultra :lol Come on, Cammy doesn't have any safe chip, they had to give her something. And besides, it's still no jab SRK.
Zissou said:Some characters are really fun to fight against. I play Blanka, so against a good Abel, Zangeif, Rose, or whoever, an enjoyable fight happens. Unfortunately, a huge percentage of matches are against shoto characters, and the vast majority all play exactly the same. I wish there was some custom filter to not fight Ryu/Ken/Sagat/Balrog/Guile. 3S is certainly a defensive game, but it seems like turtling is a much less effective strategy; get cornered, especially by characters like Urien or Necro, and you're toast. I'd love to play VF online, but I've got the PS3 version with PS3 sticks, and it'd be another huge investment to get set up with my 360. Hopefully KOF XII or Blazblue suits me better, as I'll be giving both a shot.
arstal said:Blazblue might be better, but I hate Arc, so I'm passing on that. (Arc= boring to me)
KOFXII I don't have much hope for. That's why I recced 98UM. 98 has a good balance of offense and defense, and balance is pretty good also.
3S is worse because it devolves into gain meter, then random poke or parry into hit-confirmed easymode super combo. This is one reason balance was so terrible in 3S as well- only 2 chars really catered to that style of play (Yun and Chun). Ken and Urien were ok because they were solid overall, Makoto was gimmicky enough to steal wins. That's it. The other 14-15 chars weren't worth playing at all, they were all practically Dan, and Sean was too weak to even be Dan.
Blanka is my ugliest matchup, Honda can't rush Blanka at all, it's all about trying to bait Blanka's safe stuff into unsafe stuff. At least vs Balrog Honda should at least attempt a little offense to keep Balrog honest, that doesn't even work vs Blanka.
arstal said:Blazblue might be better, but I hate Arc, so I'm passing on that. (Arc= boring to me)
KOFXII I don't have much hope for. That's why I recced 98UM. 98 has a good balance of offense and defense, and balance is pretty good also.
3S is worse because it devolves into gain meter, then random poke or parry into hit-confirmed easymode super combo. This is one reason balance was so terrible in 3S as well- only 2 chars really catered to that style of play (Yun and Chun). Ken and Urien were ok because they were solid overall, Makoto was gimmicky enough to steal wins. That's it. The other 14-15 chars weren't worth playing at all, they were all practically Dan, and Sean was too weak to even be Dan.
Blanka is my ugliest matchup, Honda can't rush Blanka at all, it's all about trying to bait Blanka's safe stuff into unsafe stuff. At least vs Balrog Honda should at least attempt a little offense to keep Balrog honest, that doesn't even work vs Blanka.
myDingling said:Seriosuly...that shit gets me everytime and it's like a full quarter to a third of my health bar. Also, just like SRKs C.Spikes are so stupidly punishable when they miss. If you can predict a C.Spike it's money in the bag. Whenever you start getting C.Spiked out of the air consistently, it's basically a call to stop jumping and work on your ground game.Unless of course you play Fuerte like Turtle Snatcher and being in the air is like all of your game
TurtleSnatcher said:Jab SRK's are hard as hell to punish online. If they take the most minimal step back and do it and you try to punish they can spam out another and get you with it. Its annoying as shit.
And the thing with C. Spike that is retarded.. (This has happened to everyone im sure)
If Cammy does a HK C. Spike.. and you wait 1 second and try to jump up and lets say Air Throw them.. sometimes she still clips you even though she was in the air a whole second before you.. Its like my fucking braces or shit gets stuck on her boot.. wtf?!
iam220 said:Yeah, 'boring' has been my number one compliant. I'm not concerned with entertaining my opponents though.