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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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TurtleSnatcher
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Aedile said:I'm not a kneejerk anti-PC guy (more like kneejerk anti-console), but I'd still say PS3 is the version to go with for superior online competition. Sure, the netcode is inferior, but still less annoying than having to deal with the hardware lag of an opponent on a substandard PC.
My own problem with gauging competition is this: when I was on PS3, 90% of the competition in G2 was shotos, so I learned pretty well how to beat those characters (include Sagat here too). I come to PC and, for the first week, it's all charge characters. I keep getting my ass handed to me and my winrate doesn't break 50% in championship. Then the shotos roll into G2 and now I'm winning more like 70-75% of my matches with some pretty decent win streaks; but I'm still about 50-50 (or worse) against charge characters, and there are some I almost never beat. I'm a lousy player--I rarely do combos or FA and have very slow reflexes--so I know the shotos I'm playing against aren't very good. As for the charge characters, I don't know if they're good players or I just don't see them enough to know what beats their moves. (Being a bad player, I'm not allowed to research matchups.)
I know there are good players on the PC, because some of them are posting in this thread, but do you really think there are many of them? Am I just playing at the wrong times? Are the Blankas that I never beat really that good?
I still enjoy my XB360 version as well. I'm not saying PC is the definitive version but it shouldn't be discounted because he hasn't run into many good players. Ive run into quite a few this past week and some SRK people that I've friended off PC that have great chars and I've been enjoying it.
Its also a great option for those with a laggy TV.. (I have a DLP and I can really tell the difference now when playing on my PC monitor as opposed to my DLP w/ my 360).
Ive played some friends PS3 on PSN.. and I can tell you the XB360 has more games that come up in the search results.. a lot more. Not sure if its just a network thing that the PS3 verison just restricts but I've also seen this apparent in peoples videos on YT with the PS3 version.
In regards to competition.. I think they are about on par. I mean PS3 yes is the 'official' Evo system but all the pros have sticks for 360 or PS3 or dual modded most likely.. if not.. then its a good mix at least.
Either way.. you can't go wrong with any version. Just play what you think you will enjoy. PC may be best if you are new just because maybe it has that newer userbase that hasn't had 3 months to play it but at the same time it will mature I'm sure like the rest.
if you dont mind watching really bad players wailing on each other, i've decided to join the legion of youtube SF4 people who want to get better.
so please go simon cowell on my ass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm--uwuQkZg
I'm the sakura, and my strategy could be summed up as: hit one normal > ex tatsu > j.hk > dash and/or dashunder > c.hp and/or throw > if c.hp then ex tatsu > sakura otoshi
edit: geez. my camera eats through batteries in 480/30fps mode...
also green alt sak = +10 stun on every move.
so please go simon cowell on my ass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm--uwuQkZg
I'm the sakura, and my strategy could be summed up as: hit one normal > ex tatsu > j.hk > dash and/or dashunder > c.hp and/or throw > if c.hp then ex tatsu > sakura otoshi
edit: geez. my camera eats through batteries in 480/30fps mode...
also green alt sak = +10 stun on every move.
Spiderjericho
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Glad to see more new players. SF4 GET HYPED!!
Do you think they lowered the price to get interest in the game and to spite KOF and Blaz Blue (and possibly Tekken)?
Do you think they lowered the price to get interest in the game and to spite KOF and Blaz Blue (and possibly Tekken)?
Pandaman said:
Im no Sakura player but you should definitely try to learn block strings she has really good normal moves and her crouching medium punch is great.
Not Sakura but a good tutorial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lYsUZGF3VI
McBradders
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Pandaman said:
Yeah, that Bison was terrible. You jump way, way too much which leaves you open to being punished which was his worst mistake.
Make sure you hit confirm in to ex tatsu otherwise you are just wasting EX meter. Use the regular if you're looking to pressure and chip damage. Also when you do hit the EX tatsu then follow it up with the f,d,df+kick and the three punches, much better damage and if you've been dishing out the pain it gets you the dizzy far quicker.
The fundamentals are there, but you should really look to be baiting people in to mistakes rather than throwing stuff at them and seeing what sticks. A better player would have eaten you for breakfast.
Sakura is hard to get wins with so if you're sticking with her you need to tighten up your game a lot.
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drohne said:
G2 players on 360 vary from flowcharters to tiny gods. On average I have good to great matches there all the time, it's quite rare to hit either end of the spectrum.
Level 8 Boss
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Pandaman said:
I'm no Sakura expert, but you need to work on the fundamentals. You're far to jump happy, and better players will eat you alive with one mis-placed jump in.
Uou can ultra after an ex tatsu, you need to know and be able to exploit all ultra set ups. (Check out Shroyuken forums/challenge mode etc)
Spamming jabs and lights is not good, make sure you hit confirm before going into a combo. If they block, you have a few options. Tick throw, cheeky overhead etc.
When you get better, learn her reset combos.
Edit - Crouching fierce is pretty awesome anti-air.
~Devil Trigger~
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Timedog said:
It does'nt beat everything.
sixteen-bit
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Tornado throwing Gief out of his Ultra is fucking priceless.~Devil Trigger~ said:
Still a really bad matchup in Gief's favor, but it's the little things I love.
D
Deleted member 1235
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man I've realised I don't suck as bad as I think, however, it takes me a couple matches to 'learn' a person.
This doesn't go well in championship mode
This doesn't go well in championship mode
I'm the same way. I get destroyed by stupid stuff learning the persons habits for a few rounds. This is why I like Player Matches.catfish said:man I've realised I don't suck as bad as I think, however, it takes me a couple matches to 'learn' a person.
This doesn't go well in championship mode
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comrade said:
Yeah, I get nearly violent angry from getting beat by a shitty ken scrub who beats me getting in a couple fierce uppercuts, then I play a second ken you I try to monster thinking he's the previous idiot, then that guy has skill and RUINS me..
argh, learning bison is soo frustrating and devastating for my win ratio :lol What's worse is when I switch back to my previous main, blanka, I start trying to do bison combos when I get close now.
sixteen-bit
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blame it on the lah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-agRelix said:
what is up with Ken's jab srk, often times I trade or even lose with a second one when frying to punish the first
Rice-Eater
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_dementia said:blame it on the lah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ag
what is up with Ken's jab srk, often times I trade or even lose with a second one when frying to punish the first
You have to watch out for those Ken/Ryu players who like to spam consecutive jab SRk's. Even to this day, I still fall for that shit because my instinct is to sweep or throw. As a Ryu player I can punish with crouching MK, but normally I resort to waiting for the 2nd SRK and then go for a sweep. But there are those guys who will go for even a 3rd one :lol
Back in my early days I was getting punished by flowchart Ken's because I would mistime my throws after blocking a fierce SRK only to get hit by another one because the other guy is mashing DP the entire way down. I finally broke that habit and will do a more damaging combo instead of normal throw.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
im back on Abel and still very uncomfortable fighting Blanka. Im tired of chasing that ugly fuck, tired of waiting for Ultra gauge, tired of the ball shenanigans...god, retire this stupid character Capcom.
im miss the El Fuerte days of putting Blanka through Hell:lol
question: Ex TT beats shock?
im miss the El Fuerte days of putting Blanka through Hell:lol
question: Ex TT beats shock?
Crystalkoen
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STILL having issues with the charge characters, and now Teleport-happy Dhalsims... people play so defensive, and have such safe screen-crossing moves that it pisses me off. Even had one Honda yesterday that just did his command throw everytime I'd get knocked down. Once I started jumping to avoid/punish it, he'd start mixing in a jumping Fierce to knock me down again, rinse repeat. Probably not so bad for any standard Shoto, pain in the ass for Sakura >.>
On the plus side, I rarely lose to said standard Shotos anymore, so I guess it's a trade-off.
On the plus side, I rarely lose to said standard Shotos anymore, so I guess it's a trade-off.
Rice-Eater
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I get what you mean, most players are very defensive. If I always have to attack a guy, I actually go out of my way to try and piss them off. Normally I'll go for a lot of cross ups and tick throws if I can. And if they still want to stay on there side, I'll stay on mine and win by time out.
GriffD17 said:
I'm just saying that now that I started playing Marvel on xbl, I've been away from Street Fighter IV for too long and it just doesn't feel right. I suppose I'll come back to it at some point, but I've been far enough removed from it that it feels like learning a whole new game when I try to get back into playing it.
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Timedog said:
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you bait em, they'll jump and grab air, and you have your way with them...
FindMyFarms
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Nice thing about pc version is you can use any stick on it.
Leunam said:
I've been attempting lately to jab Balrog out of his Ultra. Any time I've done so I've pretty much owned the rest of the match because the guy probably lost his shit. I'm sure the fact that the dude was dumb enough to throw a random ultra from far enough away that I had time to jab cancel it had nothing to do with it!
But either way, if a move is "pimptacular", I'm gonna do it regardless.
sixteen-bit
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not sure you can, but jab super definitely works!Timedog said:
sixteen-bit
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that's true